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Post by StepOut on Oct 25, 2014 13:58:49 GMT -5
I'll be surprised if Gem doesn't join up with Noel.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Oct 25, 2014 14:02:07 GMT -5
The ghey side of me hopes Liam gives up the rock n roll lifestyle and gets back with Nicole and sorts his life out. I do wonder about the timing, I have an inkling it's because Gem will be joining Noel. Otherwise there's little reason for them to have made a decision now if someone didnt have other plans coming up. I thought you were gonna finish with, "the ghey side of me hopes Liam gives up the rock n roll lifestyle and at least does soft core porn...."I assume that's the wish of about 95% of hardcore male BDi fans....but it's probably more like 55%. God bless. |
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Post by Ltrain on Oct 25, 2014 14:02:13 GMT -5
Poor Tim. JK, hope Gem joins Noel now.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 25, 2014 14:04:52 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious Liam wants an Oasis reunion. And Noel doesn't. My prediction: Oasis will reform if/when Noel releases a solo album that tanks. So support Oasis by not buying Chasing Yesterday  I doubt it. Maybe deep inside he wants it, but he is doing it half a year before Noel even release his next record so it's obvious that it's not going to happen. And he's far from begging him i guess. My bets : Liam is in music business for a long time, he surely knows more people than just Noel, Guigsy, Bonehead, Andy and Gem. He's Liam Gallagher, believe me, he's got some more options than staying with BE or reforming Oasis. He's probably talking already with someone about forming a new band with new guys. My predicts? This fella is already in there.  |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 14:08:41 GMT -5
Hope not. Noel needs to stay away from anything associated with mediocrity. I'm sorry, but Gem and Andy just do not cut the mustard. The pair of them were stuck in the 1970s and the dad rock was embarrassing. So uncool. The fact that even a forward thinking producer like Dave Sitek couldn't drag them from their 1960s/70s rut suggested a serious lack of talent. They're both really nice guys but they didn't offer anything to Oasis. They may be more competent musicians than Bonehead and Guigsy, but that didn't stop live performances declining massively from the 90s high point. I think this split is a good thing. The band were well past their sell by date and didn't get with the times. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves. But that describes NGHFB and its accompanying tour perfectly. Maybe CY will be different, but Noel isn't exactly taking advantage of his "freedom" thus far. If that remains the case, they might as well reunite. |
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Post by Manualex on Oct 25, 2014 14:12:47 GMT -5
Sad, they were on a right path musically after BE, but the tour & divorce fiasco put the band to the end. Andy, bring on the Ride reunion!  |
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 25, 2014 14:16:19 GMT -5
Hope that Liam take a break from music for some years, write a buch of great songs in this period and then return with a great solo album.
For both Andy and Gem, I wish the best for them, maybe they can form a band togheter.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 14:16:27 GMT -5
Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves. But that describes NGHFB and its accompanying tour perfectly. Maybe CY will be different, but Noel isn't exactly taking advantage of his "freedom" thus far. If that remains the case, they might as well reunite. If HFB was uneven then everything Oasis released between 2000 and 2008 is utter shit. That is the strongest Gallagher release since BHN in my opinion. Noel can play his older songs because 1) he is a solo act, not a band forging a new "identify" 2) he wrote all those songs. It's something totally different when you wrote them vs just the singer on them. 3) the highlights on that tour weren't Oasis songs. |
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Post by Ash & Debris on Oct 25, 2014 14:19:03 GMT -5
Not surprising, to be honest. I wonder what the reason behind it is, though. Don't know if this makes an Oasis reunion more or less likely: On one hand, their project is over and now - barring any additional developments - are available. Just have to wait for after Noel's second album and consequential tour - leading to a possible reformation late 2016 or 2017. But, and this is what I fear is the likelier scenario, LAG will go their separate ways. They'll remain mates, to be sure, but each will devolve into their own lives. I always, always, always (I can't stress this point enough), that the BDI represented the best chance at Oasis reuniting, because all the members were there already, barring Noel. All they needed to do was convince Noel - a tall order, of course, but manageable. Now, with the split, it will take even more to rally each individual troop for the cause. And that, is the real shame of today's BDI split, for me. I want my Oasis back, god damn it. Failing that, Gem to Noel indeed. I do really like Gem. This is a terrible post. a) Oasis is history and way past their prime. Your post comes across as akin to a balding man refusing to shave off his head to hold on to his last 2 strands of hair - let it go. b) This split has no impact on the likelihood (or unlikelihood) of a reunion. The ONLY person who needs to say yes is still (and will always be) Noel. Gem & Andy would leave their due-wives in the hospital to play a gig if Noel called. |
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Post by LlAM on Oct 25, 2014 14:19:09 GMT -5
TBH besides the line "Call me the roller" I could not tell you one BE lyric off the top of my head. THE WORD IS UP, IF YOU'RE TOUGH ENOUGH My Beady Eye lyrics knowledge ends about there as well. It's not the end of the World It's not even the end of the day Xxx |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 14:19:25 GMT -5
Is it just me, or is this like the real end of Oasis? Cos lets face it, Beady Eye were Oasis without Noel. I feel a bit sadder now than I did when Noel left. Absolutely not. Oasis cannot and will not exist if Liam and Noel are not present. The bottom line is Beady Eye didn't have the tunes to make this last long term. They lost their iconic songwriter. LAG weren't gonna fill that void easily. Shit, Gem and Andy were basically unemployed before Noel picked them off the scrap heap back in 1999. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 14:26:18 GMT -5
I said it almost two years ago. Once Beady Eye started playing Noel written Oasis songs it would be their doom. To me that was a desperation play and it cheapened their potential product in the end. I'd much rather they forge their own path with their own songs. It only gives more credibility to their new identity.
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 14:27:05 GMT -5
But that describes NGHFB and its accompanying tour perfectly. Maybe CY will be different, but Noel isn't exactly taking advantage of his "freedom" thus far. If that remains the case, they might as well reunite. If HFB was uneven then everything Oasis released between 2000 and 2008 is utter shit. That is the strongest Gallagher release since BHN in my opinion. Noel can play his older songs because 1) he is a solo act, not a band forging a new "identify" 2) he wrote all those songs. It's something totally different when you wrote them vs just the singer on them. 3) the highlights on that tour weren't Oasis songs. Well, like you said, it's a matter of opinion. I personally think NGHFB is worse than every Oasis album except for HC. It's a very safe album, much more so than DOYS. And I preferred the gig I saw on the DOYS tour to the gig I saw on the NGHFB tour. I have nothing against Noel playing his own songs, but that alone doesn't qualify as pushing himself musically. And IMO the highlights on the last tour were definitely the Oasis songs. |
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Post by asimarx on Oct 25, 2014 14:27:09 GMT -5
I'll be surprised if Gem doesn't join up with Noel. Now Gem's finally free to team up with his first ever band again: |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 14:36:10 GMT -5
If HFB was uneven then everything Oasis released between 2000 and 2008 is utter shit. That is the strongest Gallagher release since BHN in my opinion. Noel can play his older songs because 1) he is a solo act, not a band forging a new "identify" 2) he wrote all those songs. It's something totally different when you wrote them vs just the singer on them. 3) the highlights on that tour weren't Oasis songs. Well, like you said, it's a matter of opinion. I personally think NGHFB is worse than every Oasis album except for HC. It's a very safe album, much more so than DOYS. And I preferred the gig I saw on the DOYS tour to the gig I saw on the NGHFB tour. I have nothing against Noel playing his own songs, but that alone doesn't qualify as pushing himself musically. And IMO the highlights on the last tour were definitely the Oasis songs. Who said that playing his Oasis songs were pushing himself musically? I certainly didn't. I saw it as Noel trying to make a 90 minute show since he had 1 solo album. I'd expect much less Oasis songs moving forward. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 25, 2014 14:38:37 GMT -5
I said it almost two years ago. Once Beady Eye started playing Noel written Oasis songs it would be their doom. To me that was a desperation play and it cheapened their potential product in the end. I'd much rather they forge their own path with their own songs. It only gives more credibility to their new identity. True, but to be fair, the band was already pretty much a failure at that point. Their songs just weren't good enough - that's why they had to resort to Oasis songs, that's why they weren't all that successfull. I'm a little sad because I still hoped for a great third album - BE was a step up already and DGSS wasn't half bad - but if LAG play their cards right it could mean a significant step up in quality. Gem could definitely become part of the High Flying Birds, Liam could go solo or do something completely different... I doubt it means a reunion anytime soon though - if that happens, it will be in the far future, 10-15 years from now. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 25, 2014 14:41:36 GMT -5
I said it almost two years ago. Once Beady Eye started playing Noel written Oasis songs it would be their doom. To me that was a desperation play and it cheapened their potential product in the end. I'd much rather they forge their own path with their own songs. It only gives more credibility to their new identity. True, but to be fair, the band was already pretty much a failure at that point. Their songs just weren't good enough - that's why they had to resort to Oasis songs, that's why they weren't all that successfull. I'm a little sad because I still hoped for a great third album - BE was a step up already and DGSS wasn't half bad - but if LAG play their cards right it could mean a significant step up in quality. Gem could definitely become part of the High Flying Birds, Liam could go solo or do something completely different... I doubt it means a reunion anytime soon though - if that happens, it will be in the far future, 10-15 years from now. Naturally playing Noel Oasis songs weren't the bands biggest problems but it certainly didn't help matters at all. Made them look like an Oasis cover band. I hated that. I loved when Liam first declared during press for DGSS that Beady Eye would NEVER play Oasis songs. I was like "fuck yeah Liam!" |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Oct 25, 2014 14:46:43 GMT -5
I still think BE is a really good album so im disappointed we wont get another.
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Post by longwaytorun on Oct 25, 2014 14:48:36 GMT -5
A Liam solo album will be no better than a Beady Eye album. He's a good front man and that's it. His songs suck. I'm enjoying Noel's solo stuff and I could care less about Liam. He ruined his voice and he offers nothing without his brother. Period
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 14:48:46 GMT -5
Well, like you said, it's a matter of opinion. I personally think NGHFB is worse than every Oasis album except for HC. It's a very safe album, much more so than DOYS. And I preferred the gig I saw on the DOYS tour to the gig I saw on the NGHFB tour. I have nothing against Noel playing his own songs, but that alone doesn't qualify as pushing himself musically. And IMO the highlights on the last tour were definitely the Oasis songs. Who said that playing his Oasis songs were pushing himself musically? Well, that's how I read this (not just Oasis songs, but his solo act in general)... If you prefer Noel staying solo, I assumed that was because you think he doesn't exhibit the negative qualities you attach to latter day Oasis (i.e. Noel *is* growing and pushing himself -- which I disagree with). Sorry if that's not what you meant. |
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 25, 2014 14:50:06 GMT -5
But that describes NGHFB and its accompanying tour perfectly. Maybe CY will be different, but Noel isn't exactly taking advantage of his "freedom" thus far. If that remains the case, they might as well reunite. If HFB was uneven then everything Oasis released between 2000 and 2008 is utter shit. That is the strongest Gallagher release since BHN in my opinion. Noel can play his older songs because 1) he is a solo act, not a band forging a new "identify" 2) he wrote all those songs. It's something totally different when you wrote them vs just the singer on them. 3) the highlights on that tour weren't Oasis songs. i dont understand the reasoning behind oasis getting boring playing greatest hits tour after tour and then noel carried it on that tour ploughing out master plan,talk tonight, its good to be free, don't look back in anger, its good to be free, wonderwall, slideaway or the millionth time if moving forward or pushing himself When he pulled out some of the rarer songs was a different story however Also via crowd reactions i'd 100% guarantee you 95% of the audience the oasis songs were the highlights for them (60% of the time that stat works everytime) I am sure this tour will be different now he has more material edit: obv the post above we both read it meaning that. My point is not playing oasis songs but playing the exact songs he been playing forever. (except few times when he did pull out a gem) |
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Oct 25, 2014 14:58:09 GMT -5
They were awful. No loss.
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Post by asimarx on Oct 25, 2014 15:00:52 GMT -5
A Liam solo album will be no better than a Beady Eye album. He's a good front man and that's it. His songs suck. I'm enjoying Noel's solo stuff and I could care less about Liam. He ruined his voice and he offers nothing without his brother. Period Agree somehow. I always caught myself making Beady Eye playlists and subconsciously leaving out the Liam-written tunes. |
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Oct 25, 2014 15:06:20 GMT -5
A Liam solo album will be no better than a Beady Eye album. He's a good front man and that's it. His songs suck. I'm enjoying Noel's solo stuff and I could care less about Liam. He ruined his voice and he offers nothing without his brother. Period Yep. Sad but true. Liam will be the one to break the ice with Noel now. He needs the Oasis reunion to stay relevant. 2016 or 2017. |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Oct 25, 2014 15:07:59 GMT -5
Even if Liam's songs aren't the best, I hope he writes his own material if he releases a solo album. Intentional or not, his songs in Beady Eye had a creative edge that the other members' contributions lacked. Also, it would be interesting to see Liam play guitar live |
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