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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 8:31:11 GMT -5
This is the most press Beady Eye have gotten since announcing their debut record. Shame it has to be in a negative light when the band is no more. Should have shown the spotlight before "BE" came out. Is a shame but unfortunately thats the press for you, anything negative is newsworthy to them. The fact they are getting any proves thats Liam is still newsworthy. Many many bands bow out without a blink of an eye.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 8:31:20 GMT -5
It was good to hear idler and Angel , but I see your point , my major complaint about Oasis live pist 2000 and noel picked the setlist or most of it anyway ,was it was like playing a record , one of the great things about seeing springsteen , he would play multiple nights in jersey , like 6-10 sold out performances , play for hours and no set was alike , he changed up stretched his catalogue , I never seen oasis or noel do that , part of blame if not all has to fall onTHE CHIEF NO ? I mean he has so many b sides it would have been refreshing to see him in NYC play some when they played beacon multiple nights instead of same setlist note for note , then when I went to Philly , Boston , here the exact list again ..point is noel was never known for stretching his artistic pattern be it live or on record , maybe he started with last tour and pattern will continue , would be cool Exactly even weller the same even if its 4 songs a set it mixes things up. I know Noels reasoning behind that was well fans be gutted if another venue gots songs they didn't see but like you say he started it towards end of tour so hopefully will carry on. I personally find it schizophrenic that people bang on how boring oasis were 00's onwards playing static GH sets (even tho 08-09 they sold more tickets than any other tour), but they then justify noel playing static sets with basically his GH which fans heard him play several times over. He could broadened his horizons in my opinion Also like i mentioned before people always justify the amount of oasis songs due to set lengths but festivals and the co headline tour when sets were much shorter he pulled some of the new HFB songs he was promoting out and still played those oasis ones, surely he should've just played HFB and then maybe 1-2 oasis. Like i said yesterday i think 2-3 oasis songs this time prob right 2 fan pleasers then a rarity if anything but if nothing then great. The difference thus far is Oasis was doing that routine for over a decade. We knew Noel was going into his first tour playing a bunch of Oasis tunes, many of which he didn't really play much over the last 15 years except in rare one-off gigs/mini acoustic tours. Let's see what Noel does this time around. I'd imagine less Oasis songs which is cool by me.
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Post by spud on Oct 26, 2014 8:32:26 GMT -5
Find it massively unlikely that Liam would ever go solo. I think people underestimate how much the other band members added to Liam's songs. All I can see him do is strum the guitar, write a half decent melody for the verse, write some pretty childish lyrics, and instead of a chorus just chant the same line over again through the outro. A solo album would be pretty poor IMO without him having someone to help him with the arrangements. It's more that I just don't think it's his bag. He's spoken in the past about being against the idea. One thing that would be great is if he did some acoustic gigs similar to those Beady Eye ones at the start of the BE tour, only with him singing Oasis songs instead. They were the highlight of Beady Eye's career imo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:34:29 GMT -5
It was good to hear idler and Angel , but I see your point , my major complaint about Oasis live pist 2000 and noel picked the setlist or most of it anyway ,was it was like playing a record , one of the great things about seeing springsteen , he would play multiple nights in jersey , like 6-10 sold out performances , play for hours and no set was alike , he changed up stretched his catalogue , I never seen oasis or noel do that , part of blame if not all has to fall onTHE CHIEF NO ? I mean he has so many b sides it would have been refreshing to see him in NYC play some when they played beacon multiple nights instead of same setlist note for note , then when I went to Philly , Boston , here the exact list again ..point is noel was never known for stretching his artistic pattern be it live or on record , maybe he started with last tour and pattern will continue , would be cool Exactly even weller the same even if its 4 songs a set it mixes things up. I know Noels reasoning behind that was well fans be gutted if another venue gots songs they didn't see but like you say he started it towards end of tour so hopefully will carry on. I personally find it schizophrenic that people bang on how boring oasis were 00's onwards playing static GH sets (even tho 08-09 they sold more tickets than any other tour), but they then justify noel playing static sets with basically his GH which fans heard him play several times over. He could broadened his horizons in my opinion Also like i mentioned before people always justify the amount of oasis songs due to set lengths but festivals and the co headline tour when sets were much shorter he pulled some of the new HFB songs he was promoting out and still played those oasis ones, surely he should've just played HFB and then maybe 1-2 oasis. Like i said yesterday i think 2-3 oasis songs this time prob right 2 fan pleasers then a rarity if anything but if nothing then great. Yea and I'll tell you something HES wrong about dissapoint ink fans imo ....back in day bruce , the dead , vh , Rush , would always change up there sets , it MADE YOU WANT FO GO EVERY NIGHT , or travel because you may have missed something special .... Bruce once played in philly all of darkness on edge of town , cause he felt like it ,we didn't get thst at Byrne arena ,he still p,ayed 5 hours and plsyed his hits , but he played darkness , it's stuff like that , that makes going to multiple gigs special ..imo ... Otherwise you go to 1 gig and your good , I hope noel starts doing a little of this , not asking him to plsy Wtsmg in entirety like bruce , but mix it up a bit. Hopefully he has
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 26, 2014 8:39:30 GMT -5
Yes but the point i was making yesterday wasn't disagreeing with anything that she's said at all and i even mentioned it was great when he played idlers dream and angel child. My point was playing the exact same songs he'd played over and over with oasis wasn't pushing himself as an artist when he had lots of other oasis songs and his own songs he could've played. This fact does become mute when you take out the 90 minutes set. When he played with snow patrol near the end of the tour he didn't do a full set (60-70 mins 14 song sets?) and and he still did 1/2 the set of the same oasis tunes he's been doing for years, he even dropped HFB tracks but kept oasis one. So again my point was he wasn't pushing himself as anartist which was relevant to context of what was being said (which obv irrelevant now) It was good to hear idler and Angel , but I see your point , my major complaint about Oasis live pist 2000 and noel picked the setlist or most of it anyway ,was it was like playing a record , one of the great things about seeing springsteen , he would play multiple nights in jersey , like 6-10 sold out performances , play for hours and no set was alike , he changed up stretched his catalogue , I never seen oasis or noel do that , part of blame if not all has to fall onTHE CHIEF NO ? I mean he has so many b sides it would have been refreshing to see him in NYC play some when they played beacon multiple nights instead of same setlist note for note , then when I went to Philly , Boston , here the exact list again ..point is noel was never known for stretching his artistic pattern be it live or on record , maybe he started with last tour and pattern will continue , would be cool It wasn't just bsides. There were so many album tracks he could have chosen for them to play too. They completely ignored BHN. Going to an oasis show you knew the setlist would be similar to the STC CD. Mostly songs from WTSMG &DM with a couple of songs of the new album.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:42:18 GMT -5
It was good to hear idler and Angel , but I see your point , my major complaint about Oasis live pist 2000 and noel picked the setlist or most of it anyway ,was it was like playing a record , one of the great things about seeing springsteen , he would play multiple nights in jersey , like 6-10 sold out performances , play for hours and no set was alike , he changed up stretched his catalogue , I never seen oasis or noel do that , part of blame if not all has to fall onTHE CHIEF NO ? I mean he has so many b sides it would have been refreshing to see him in NYC play some when they played beacon multiple nights instead of same setlist note for note , then when I went to Philly , Boston , here the exact list again ..point is noel was never known for stretching his artistic pattern be it live or on record , maybe he started with last tour and pattern will continue , would be cool It wasn't just bsides. There were so many album tracks he could have chosen for them to play too. They completely ignored BHN. Going to an oasis show you knew the setlist would be similar to the STC CD. Mostly songs from WTSMG &DM with a couple of songs of the new album. Yea. Was using b sides as a example , I loved BHN live only got to hear it during that period. That blew , like U say so much more they could have played
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 8:44:27 GMT -5
Exactly even weller the same even if its 4 songs a set it mixes things up. I know Noels reasoning behind that was well fans be gutted if another venue gots songs they didn't see but like you say he started it towards end of tour so hopefully will carry on. I personally find it schizophrenic that people bang on how boring oasis were 00's onwards playing static GH sets (even tho 08-09 they sold more tickets than any other tour), but they then justify noel playing static sets with basically his GH which fans heard him play several times over. He could broadened his horizons in my opinion Also like i mentioned before people always justify the amount of oasis songs due to set lengths but festivals and the co headline tour when sets were much shorter he pulled some of the new HFB songs he was promoting out and still played those oasis ones, surely he should've just played HFB and then maybe 1-2 oasis. Like i said yesterday i think 2-3 oasis songs this time prob right 2 fan pleasers then a rarity if anything but if nothing then great. The difference thus far is Oasis was doing that routine for over a decade. We knew Noel was going into his first tour playing a bunch of Oasis tunes, many of which he didn't really play much over the last 15 years except in rare one-off gigs/mini acoustic tours. Let's see what Noel does this time around. I'd imagine less Oasis songs which is cool by me. Yes and like i said yesterday you thought it was ok for him to do that because you hadn't seen those songs before. The DOYS tour would've seen a lot of new fans come through and was first time they heard those GH songs so thats ok for them, just the same as noel was ok for you. Yes I'm sure it'll be much much less oasis at his gigs so we'll see. Obv he can play whatever he wants to play 10 CY 5 HFB and 5 oasis songs he never played that would be great as be covering new ground just not the same ones he's done for years and years
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 8:45:15 GMT -5
It wasn't just bsides. There were so many album tracks he could have chosen for them to play too. They completely ignored BHN. Going to an oasis show you knew the setlist would be similar to the STC CD. Mostly songs from WTSMG &DM with a couple of songs of the new album. Yea. Was using b sides as a example , I loved BHN live only got to hear it during that period. That blew , like U say so much more they could have played Noel doesn't have the stones to treat Oasis like how Pearl Jam or Radiohead do setlists.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 8:47:21 GMT -5
The difference thus far is Oasis was doing that routine for over a decade. We knew Noel was going into his first tour playing a bunch of Oasis tunes, many of which he didn't really play much over the last 15 years except in rare one-off gigs/mini acoustic tours. Let's see what Noel does this time around. I'd imagine less Oasis songs which is cool by me. Yes and like i said yesterday you thought it was ok for him to do that because you hadn't seen those songs before. The DOYS tour would've seen a lot of new fans come through and was first time they heard those GH songs so thats ok for them, just the same as noel was ok for you. Yes I'm sure it'll be much much less oasis at his gigs so we'll see. Obv he can play whatever he wants to play 10 CY 5 HFB and 5 oasis songs he never played that would be great as be covering new ground just not the same ones he's done for years and years I didn't say it was ok but I did say if he was going to dive into the Oasis bin, let it be lesser played songs and I'm sorry the songs I named yesterday weren't performed often on a large scale. I haven't missed an Oasis tour between 1997 and 2008 and I never heard many of those tunes. Made it interesting for me and probably many others.
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 26, 2014 8:49:40 GMT -5
The difference thus far is Oasis was doing that routine for over a decade. We knew Noel was going into his first tour playing a bunch of Oasis tunes, many of which he didn't really play much over the last 15 years except in rare one-off gigs/mini acoustic tours. Let's see what Noel does this time around. I'd imagine less Oasis songs which is cool by me. Yes and like i said yesterday you thought it was ok for him to do that because you hadn't seen those songs before. The DOYS tour would've seen a lot of new fans come through and was first time they heard those GH songs so thats ok for them, just the same as noel was ok for you. Yes I'm sure it'll be much much less oasis at his gigs so we'll see. Obv he can play whatever he wants to play 10 CY 5 HFB and 5 oasis songs he never played that would be great as be covering new ground just not the same ones he's done for years and years I still wouldnt be surprised if he played ten oasis songs and any combination of ten nghfb songs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 8:51:13 GMT -5
Yes and like i said yesterday you thought it was ok for him to do that because you hadn't seen those songs before. The DOYS tour would've seen a lot of new fans come through and was first time they heard those GH songs so thats ok for them, just the same as noel was ok for you. Yes I'm sure it'll be much much less oasis at his gigs so we'll see. Obv he can play whatever he wants to play 10 CY 5 HFB and 5 oasis songs he never played that would be great as be covering new ground just not the same ones he's done for years and years I still wouldnt be surprised if he played ten oasis songs and any combination of ten nghfb songs. I wouldn't be either. Especially when playing arenas in the UK. He's gonna wanna justify high ticket prices by playing some Oasis classics. Oh well.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 26, 2014 8:51:59 GMT -5
I don't really care either way, but it's nice to hear a few Oasis songs. Anyway, wasn't this a thread about Beady Eye?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 8:53:26 GMT -5
I don't really care either way, but it's nice to hear a few Oasis songs. Anyway, wasn't this a thread about Beady Eye? Yes it is but people kept bringing up Oasis reunion talk which isn't gonna happen. Wasted breath at the moment.
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 26, 2014 8:53:56 GMT -5
I don't really care either way, but it's nice to hear a few Oasis songs. Anyway, wasn't this a thread about Beady Eye? I heard they broke up.
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 8:55:21 GMT -5
Exactly even weller the same even if its 4 songs a set it mixes things up. I know Noels reasoning behind that was well fans be gutted if another venue gots songs they didn't see but like you say he started it towards end of tour so hopefully will carry on. I personally find it schizophrenic that people bang on how boring oasis were 00's onwards playing static GH sets (even tho 08-09 they sold more tickets than any other tour), but they then justify noel playing static sets with basically his GH which fans heard him play several times over. He could broadened his horizons in my opinion Also like i mentioned before people always justify the amount of oasis songs due to set lengths but festivals and the co headline tour when sets were much shorter he pulled some of the new HFB songs he was promoting out and still played those oasis ones, surely he should've just played HFB and then maybe 1-2 oasis. Like i said yesterday i think 2-3 oasis songs this time prob right 2 fan pleasers then a rarity if anything but if nothing then great. Yea and I'll tell you something HES wrong about dissapoint ink fans imo ....back in day bruce , the dead , vh , Rush , would always change up there sets , it MADE YOU WANT FO GO EVERY NIGHT , or travel because you may have missed something special .... Bruce once played in philly all of darkness on edge of town , cause he felt like it ,we didn't get thst at Byrne arena ,he still p,ayed 5 hours and plsyed his hits , but he played darkness , it's stuff like that , that makes going to multiple gigs special ..imo ... Otherwise you go to 1 gig and your good , I hope noel starts doing a little of this , not asking him to plsy Wtsmg in entirety like bruce , but mix it up a bit. Hopefully he has no i agree completely and he should. people do travel you do actually see the same faces at lots of gigs and he knows that. It be more rewarding for those people traveling than penalising some one who only went to 1 gig He's got no excuse he's hand picked the musicians so if they can't remember more than the 20 song setlist is a poor showing. Again until the tour starts who knows but would be nice to see and surely more rewarding to him than playing same song every gig
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 26, 2014 8:56:23 GMT -5
Yeah I personally think that's funny. It was only a few days ago that Noel said he wouldn't do it because it meant taking a step back. Now Beady Eye split up and people all of a sudden think it will happen? I personally think nothing will change.
I also don't get peoples issues with Noel performing Oasis songs. When you go see Macca you'd like him to play Beatles songs too right? And at least Noel sings the songs he wrote himself. Something you can't say about Beady Eye.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Oct 26, 2014 9:00:50 GMT -5
you're all fucking goofy, and i like it.
God bless.
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Post by space75gr on Oct 26, 2014 9:22:48 GMT -5
I feel so SAD! It's hard to say or think anything now...
I love Beady Eye. I love "Different Gear, Still Speeding". I love "BE".
Liam, Gem, Andy, Chris THANK U for everything Beady Eye are no longer, but their great music will always BE here.
Flick Of The Finger Soul Love The Roller Evil Eye The Beat Goes On For Anyone Iz Rite
Four Letter Word Second Bite Of The Apple Wigwam World Outside My Room Off At The Next Exit Back After The Break Start A New
some kind of a fav playlist ...i adore these songs plus so many others...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 9:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 9:34:55 GMT -5
Gotta love how one of the last things posted on the official Beady Eye website was them going to perform at Coachella in April. Piss. Poor. Management/Marketing.
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 9:48:08 GMT -5
Gotta love how one of the last things posted on the official Beady Eye website was them going to perform at Coachella in April. Piss. Poor. Management/Marketing. yes and unfortunately the person who got put in charge of managing them, who got sacked for being unprofessionally by obv sleeping with him / is now his bint. Lets hope she isn't orchestarting his career going forward
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Post by cigsandalc on Oct 26, 2014 9:55:06 GMT -5
I don't really care either way, but it's nice to hear a few Oasis songs. Anyway, wasn't this a thread about Beady Eye? Yes it is but people kept bringing up Oasis reunion talk which isn't gonna happen. Wasted breath at the moment. Well...I think you´ve made your point in the last 24 hours... The Chasing The Sun project is the REUNION. I don't get this - why on earth do you want Oasis back? I haven't heard one rational argument for Oasis to come back. And the Oasis he wanted back wasn't even the truest former of Oasis which featured Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Exactly. Oasis reunion stories drive me nuts. Do the math people. Noel is going to be very busy well into 2016. Then it's his usual 2-3 year break. DUDE.......for the billionth time. There will be no reunion. Sure it makes sense now for Liam but not for Noel. PLUS.........Oasis to ME was Liam, Noel, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Just wonderful, now I gotta hear MORE reunion speculation for the next couple of years. Noel is gonna be like Johnny Marr. No Smiths reunion, no Oasis reunion. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 9:58:35 GMT -5
Yes it is but people kept bringing up Oasis reunion talk which isn't gonna happen. Wasted breath at the moment. Well...I think you´ve made your point in the last 24 hours... The Chasing The Sun project is the REUNION. And the Oasis he wanted back wasn't even the truest former of Oasis which featured Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Exactly. Oasis reunion stories drive me nuts. Do the math people. Noel is going to be very busy well into 2016. Then it's his usual 2-3 year break. DUDE.......for the billionth time. There will be no reunion. Sure it makes sense now for Liam but not for Noel. PLUS.........Oasis to ME was Liam, Noel, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan. Just wonderful, now I gotta hear MORE reunion speculation for the next couple of years. Noel is gonna be like Johnny Marr. No Smiths reunion, no Oasis reunion. Yeah I have no idea why people want Oasis to reunite so badly. Uneven albums and greatest hits tours all the time? That got stale real fast and felt uninspired. I was lucky enough to catch Oasis 11 times, after gig 6 or 7, it was always the same going thru the motions act. Granted I had fun but I like bands to grow and push themselves.
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Post by Manualex on Oct 26, 2014 10:29:46 GMT -5
Yea. Was using b sides as a example , I loved BHN live only got to hear it during that period. That blew , like U say so much more they could have played Noel doesn't have the stones to treat Oasis like how Pearl Jam or Radiohead do setlists. Liam would be the issue in there, if he doesn't likes rehersals how can you put some unexpected songs every night? And it didnt do any favours the routine that he does/did in the past to his singing voice. Noel is just a lazy bum.
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Post by stevemeister on Oct 26, 2014 10:31:35 GMT -5
Soul Love ...what a fine little tune.
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