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Post by matt on May 29, 2015 19:19:00 GMT -5
I still dig this album a lot. No Line was utterly appalling in places, I thought they had genuinely lost it, and I had no interest in the 360 tour. It seemed like a terminal decline after Atomic Bomb (almost forgot the name of that album tells you how often I listen to that one - not because it is terrible but because it is so inoffensive and bland).
So listening to this first time was very pleasing. I come with the expectation that, obviously, their best days are behind them, but if they could reach All That You Can't Leave Behind or Pop standards, then I'd be delighted. And this album is, for me, the first U2 album since All That You Can't Leave Behind I can listen to all the way through.
I still hold onto the thought they will return to their electronic phase though.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Jul 16, 2015 14:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 16, 2015 16:28:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 15:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 10:35:09 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Jul 20, 2015 4:40:25 GMT -5
They've played October last night for the first time since 1989:
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 20, 2015 7:22:41 GMT -5
I've seen U2 5 or 6 times. They've been at MSG all week playing sold out shows yet I have absolutely no desire to attempt to see them on this tour. This coming from a guy who has never left a U2 concert disappointed and owns 2 of their live DVDs. Not sure why I have no ambition to see them this year.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 1, 2015 13:32:04 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 10:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2015 10:56:49 GMT -5
I still really love and enjoy the 90s version of U2. Some fantastic and underrated albums during this period (Achtung, Zooropa and of course Pop). I agree with the article, Pop not selling like previous albums and the trends in music shifting to "pop, rap/metal, boybands" scared the living daylights out of them. Bono is on record saying the last decade of U2's career has been about chasing fame and being relevant to the masses. What Bono doesn't get is nobody lasts forever, all glory is fleeting. The last two U2 albums didn't sell either, so why not change back to being like the mid 90s U2? U2 are like The Stones, The Who, Pearl Jam and Oasis. They are all huge corporate brands. Even if the albums suck, people come out in droves to see the live shows. Might as well try and be artistic with the creation of albums. |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 11:18:03 GMT -5
I still really love and enjoy the 90s version of U2. Some fantastic and underrated albums during this period (Achtung, Zooropa and of course Pop). I agree with the article, Pop not selling like previous albums and the trends in music shifting to "pop, rap/metal, boybands" scared the living daylights out of them. Bono is on record saying the last decade of U2's career has been about chasing fame and being relevant to the masses. What Bono doesn't get is nobody lasts forever, all glory is fleeting. The last two U2 albums didn't sell either, so why not change back to being like the mid 90s U2? U2 are like The Stones, The Who, Pearl Jam and Oasis. They are all huge corporate brands. Even if the albums suck, people come out in droves to see the live shows. Might as well try and be artistic with the creation of albums. I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2015 11:36:41 GMT -5
I still really love and enjoy the 90s version of U2. Some fantastic and underrated albums during this period (Achtung, Zooropa and of course Pop). I agree with the article, Pop not selling like previous albums and the trends in music shifting to "pop, rap/metal, boybands" scared the living daylights out of them. Bono is on record saying the last decade of U2's career has been about chasing fame and being relevant to the masses. What Bono doesn't get is nobody lasts forever, all glory is fleeting. The last two U2 albums didn't sell either, so why not change back to being like the mid 90s U2? U2 are like The Stones, The Who, Pearl Jam and Oasis. They are all huge corporate brands. Even if the albums suck, people come out in droves to see the live shows. Might as well try and be artistic with the creation of albums. I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Some things we gotta except................................. - U2 are not gonna stop trying to be liked by everyone on planet Earth - Noel Gallagher is never going to be experimental or spontaneous - Radiohead will never make another Bends/Ok Computer guitar album (Even though In Rainbows is damn close!) - Lee Mavers is lost in the sands of time - MGMT has lost the plot forever |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 11:59:24 GMT -5
I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Some things we gotta except................................. - U2 are not gonna stop trying to be liked by everyone on planet Earth - Noel Gallagher is never going to be experimental or spontaneous - Radiohead will never make another Bends/Ok Computer guitar album (Even though In Rainbows is damn close!) - Lee Mavers is lost in the sands of time - MGMT has lost the plot forever At least Radiohead still have ambition though! I can still listen to them and appreciate their efforts though - I just think the others creativity is constrained by a self-consciousness towards the charts and how radio-friendly it is. It's understandable for one song that they want to promote, but entire albums just get tiring. As soon as bands start doing that, they lose all sense of purpose. As for MGMT - I only bought their first album, the second one by all accounts is okay, but the third is pretty dire apparently. And Lee Mavers - some of the proclamations about him over the years has perpetuated this myth about him which he would never be able to live up to. On the basis of just one (admittedly brilliant) album, I'm amazed at how carried away people have got towards it all. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2015 12:06:06 GMT -5
Some things we gotta except................................. - U2 are not gonna stop trying to be liked by everyone on planet Earth - Noel Gallagher is never going to be experimental or spontaneous - Radiohead will never make another Bends/Ok Computer guitar album (Even though In Rainbows is damn close!) - Lee Mavers is lost in the sands of time - MGMT has lost the plot forever At least Radiohead still have ambition though! I can still listen to them and appreciate their efforts though - I just think the others creativity is constrained by a self-consciousness towards the charts and how radio-friendly it is. It's understandable for one song that they want to promote, but entire albums just get tiring. As soon as bands start doing that, they lose all sense of purpose. As for MGMT - I only bought their first album, the second one by all accounts is okay, but the third is pretty dire apparently. And Lee Mavers - some of the proclamations about him over the years has perpetuated this myth about him which he would never be able to live up to. On the basis of just one (admittedly brilliant) album, I'm amazed at how carried away people have got towards it all. Radiohead have enough tremendous unreleased material to make another Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A masterpiece. They only gotta shake the cobwebs off. If you looked up the following tunes on YouTube from long ago live performances you'd think this band is crazy for never touching this material in studio. - Lift - Big Boots - Follow Me Around - I Froze Up - Identikit - Ful Stop - Skirting On The Surface - Spooks - The Present Tense - Cut A Hole |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 12:32:06 GMT -5
At least Radiohead still have ambition though! I can still listen to them and appreciate their efforts though - I just think the others creativity is constrained by a self-consciousness towards the charts and how radio-friendly it is. It's understandable for one song that they want to promote, but entire albums just get tiring. As soon as bands start doing that, they lose all sense of purpose. As for MGMT - I only bought their first album, the second one by all accounts is okay, but the third is pretty dire apparently. And Lee Mavers - some of the proclamations about him over the years has perpetuated this myth about him which he would never be able to live up to. On the basis of just one (admittedly brilliant) album, I'm amazed at how carried away people have got towards it all. Radiohead have enough tremendous unreleased material to make another Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A masterpiece. They only gotta shake the cobwebs off. If you looked up the following tunes on YouTube from long ago live performances you'd think this band is crazy for never touching this material in studio. - Lift - Big Boots - Follow Me Around - I Froze Up - Identikit - Ful Stop - Skirting On The Surface - Spooks - The Present Tense - Cut A Hole Very often the case that these live performances are equal to - if not better - than studio recordings. It would be a very unRadiohead thing to do to release all this as an album - they're not really ones for resting on their laurels! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 16:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by World71R on Aug 2, 2015 17:41:43 GMT -5
I still really love and enjoy the 90s version of U2. Some fantastic and underrated albums during this period (Achtung, Zooropa and of course Pop). I agree with the article, Pop not selling like previous albums and the trends in music shifting to "pop, rap/metal, boybands" scared the living daylights out of them. Bono is on record saying the last decade of U2's career has been about chasing fame and being relevant to the masses. What Bono doesn't get is nobody lasts forever, all glory is fleeting. The last two U2 albums didn't sell either, so why not change back to being like the mid 90s U2? U2 are like The Stones, The Who, Pearl Jam and Oasis. They are all huge corporate brands. Even if the albums suck, people come out in droves to see the live shows. Might as well try and be artistic with the creation of albums. I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Off-topic, but could you or Lennon2217 upload the album? I remember hearing about the free offer iTunes was giving out last year, but didn't take it since I wasn't really into U2 at the time, and I figured you guys might have it if you did take advantage of it. I still kick myself for not taking advantage of that lol As for U2 not being very memorable, I'd say Ordinary Love and Beautiful Day were two examples of them making songs that could stack closely up to their early 90s work. Same with Vertigo, that was a solid single for the band, and sounded fresh for the band. All three of those songs are good, but I do think that something going back to their roots while having elements of those three songs would make for a good album for the fans and creative music seekers alike. |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 18:41:33 GMT -5
I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Off-topic, but could you or Lennon2217 upload the album? I remember hearing about the free offer iTunes was giving out last year, but didn't take it since I wasn't really into U2 at the time, and I figured you guys might have it if you did take advantage of it. I still kick myself for not taking advantage of that lol As for U2 not being very memorable, I'd say Ordinary Love and Beautiful Day were two examples of them making songs that could stack closely up to their early 90s work. Same with Vertigo, that was a solid single for the band, and sounded fresh for the band. All three of those songs are good, but I do think that something going back to their roots while having elements of those three songs would make for a good album for the fans and creative music seekers alike. If I can I will get it to you, but I'm not sure what the Proboard rules are on this ( mimmihopps help!) in addition to the fact I am a disaster when it comes to computers. I can only basically work Microsoft Word and the internet, so I have no idea how to do it. But I will try my best. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 2, 2015 19:02:38 GMT -5
I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Off-topic, but could you or Lennon2217 upload the album? I remember hearing about the free offer iTunes was giving out last year, but didn't take it since I wasn't really into U2 at the time, and I figured you guys might have it if you did take advantage of it. I still kick myself for not taking advantage of that lol As for U2 not being very memorable, I'd say Ordinary Love and Beautiful Day were two examples of them making songs that could stack closely up to their early 90s work. Same with Vertigo, that was a solid single for the band, and sounded fresh for the band. All three of those songs are good, but I do think that something going back to their roots while having elements of those three songs would make for a good album for the fans and creative music seekers alike. Beautiful Day is one the best songs U2 has ever created. Massive hit on every level imaginable. Great song. |
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Post by matt on Aug 2, 2015 19:06:40 GMT -5
Off-topic, but could you or Lennon2217 upload the album? I remember hearing about the free offer iTunes was giving out last year, but didn't take it since I wasn't really into U2 at the time, and I figured you guys might have it if you did take advantage of it. I still kick myself for not taking advantage of that lol As for U2 not being very memorable, I'd say Ordinary Love and Beautiful Day were two examples of them making songs that could stack closely up to their early 90s work. Same with Vertigo, that was a solid single for the band, and sounded fresh for the band. All three of those songs are good, but I do think that something going back to their roots while having elements of those three songs would make for a good album for the fans and creative music seekers alike. Beautiful Day is one the best songs U2 has ever created. Massive hit on every level imaginable. Great song. First time I ever heard of U2, my older sister bought the single - it was the mid-term break at primary school, I was 9 years old, loved it. 15 years ago, can't believe it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 1:57:04 GMT -5
Even I remember when Beautiful Day first came out. I was about four or five and my mum had bought All That You Can't Leave Behind or the CD single, and just constantly played it in the car. I loved it at the time and I still do.
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 3, 2015 2:34:00 GMT -5
Off-topic, but could you or Lennon2217 upload the album? I remember hearing about the free offer iTunes was giving out last year, but didn't take it since I wasn't really into U2 at the time, and I figured you guys might have it if you did take advantage of it. I still kick myself for not taking advantage of that lol As for U2 not being very memorable, I'd say Ordinary Love and Beautiful Day were two examples of them making songs that could stack closely up to their early 90s work. Same with Vertigo, that was a solid single for the band, and sounded fresh for the band. All three of those songs are good, but I do think that something going back to their roots while having elements of those three songs would make for a good album for the fans and creative music seekers alike. If I can I will get it to you, but I'm not sure what the Proboard rules are on this (mimmihopps help!) in addition to the fact I am a disaster when it comes to computers. I can only basically work Microsoft Word and the internet, so I have no idea how to do it. But I will try my best. I'm afraid not, matt. Even the band made the album available for free, it's still an official release. Therefore we can't take a risk. Hope World71R understand. |
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Post by World71R on Aug 3, 2015 11:37:41 GMT -5
If I can I will get it to you, but I'm not sure what the Proboard rules are on this (mimmihopps help!) in addition to the fact I am a disaster when it comes to computers. I can only basically work Microsoft Word and the internet, so I have no idea how to do it. But I will try my best. I'm afraid not, matt. Even the band made the album available for free, it's still an official release. Therefore we can't take a risk. Hope World71R understand. That's alright. I wouldn't want to cause something that would get this forum taken down so it's completely understandable. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:11:43 GMT -5
I agree with all of this - since 2000, they are listenable, but not memorable. Although the 2000s material was the first stuff I bought of theirs, they never ranked as one of my favourite bands until about 5 years ago when I seriously delved into their music. I think that second half of Songs of Innocence is the strongest they've been in a long time - and my favourite one is Sleep Like A Baby Tonight - but I think there will always be this incessant but needless need to get the big radio anthem on an album that will never be on today's radio anyway. So its pointless. Every Breaking Wave - great tune, but the others, like California or Iris, are needless (the latter about Bono's mum, but for a better song about that topic, see Tomorrow or Lemon). Mind you, I still think they are light years ahead of Oasis, The Stones and The Who at similar stages of their careers (i.e. nostalgia acts). Pearl Jam are the only one out of that group who I think can still potentially offer something decent in album form. They need to delve into their weird and sinister side again. I was listening to Passengers last week - struck me how the band are as far away from that as they've ever been. Emotional but unsettling - that's when U2 were at their best. Some things we gotta except................................. - U2 are not gonna stop trying to be liked by everyone on planet Earth - Noel Gallagher is never going to be experimental or spontaneous - Radiohead will never make another Bends/Ok Computer guitar album (Even though In Rainbows is damn close!) - Lee Mavers is lost in the sands of time - MGMT has lost the plot forever I think Noel already has been somewhat experimental - although not the psychedelic monster he made it out to be, The Right Stuff is certainly something of an experiment. I'm actually fairly confident we'll get some experimental music from Noel in the future, and sooner than we might think. Also the only rule about Radiohead is that there are no rules. An Ok Computer-esque album at this point is more concievable than a Kid A-esque one must have been in 1999. |
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Post by jordan71421 on Aug 5, 2015 11:41:44 GMT -5
I've been starting to dig into U2's discography recently. Hey Lennon2217, what're some of your favorite U2 songs? |
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