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Post by burnageoasis on Mar 17, 2022 9:27:13 GMT -5
Not that I'd expect these numbers to rise enormously, but premiere is tomorrow. Why would anyone wait 24 hours before to watch a 20 year old video?
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 17, 2022 11:21:18 GMT -5
Who is having premiere of some old live tv performance?
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Post by burnageoasis on Mar 17, 2022 12:17:23 GMT -5
Stupid idea but that doesn't mean his career is in a very sad state. He's just not an AAA artist like Liam is (in the UK). He was in a band that had one extremely successful album, one big worldwide hit and his first solo album was also very successful. 25 and 22 years ago. He's an artist for the people who were there and didn't connect to new generations like Liam. Nothing sad about it. Many artists who had hits 25 years ago would love to reach the chart positions RA does: www.officialcharts.com/artist/8938/richard-ashcroft/ |
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Post by Jessica on Mar 17, 2022 13:06:28 GMT -5
Maybe hinting at what's coming in Acoustic Hymns Vol. 2?
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Post by burnageoasis on Mar 17, 2022 14:09:16 GMT -5
They started uploading old RA performances to YT 3 months ago. I guess it's just a way of trying to promote his channel.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 17, 2022 19:07:15 GMT -5
Ah, ok. Well, I'm hoping Vol. 2 has a few things from Human Conditions anyway. I know loads don't like his solo work in comparison to The Verve around here. That's OK, can't help that I was only getting into everything when Keys To The World came out. I want some stuff from A Northern Soul too.
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Post by quantum on Mar 18, 2022 5:03:34 GMT -5
Can't find this via Sky on demand. They have lots of the other episodes - including Noel's - but not the RA one  |
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Post by Sadie on Mar 18, 2022 9:54:40 GMT -5
It's funny how fame works when you think about it - I mean, why is it that some people are huge and then end up fading into 'irrelevancy' (by that I mean not really being cared about other than their core fanbase) and yet others who were also huge in the past manage to cross generations and maintain that legacy if not grow it. Obviously there are a lot of factors that go into it but it's funny to think about especially with Liam and Richard in the sense that they were both huge at more or less the same time but 20+ years later their fates are polar opposites
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 18, 2022 10:11:31 GMT -5
It's funny how fame works when you think about it - I mean, why is it that some people are huge and then end up fading into 'irrelevancy' (by that I mean not really being cared about other than their core fanbase) and yet others who were also huge in the past manage to cross generations and maintain that legacy if not grow it. Obviously there are a lot of factors that go into it but it's funny to think about especially with Liam and Richard in the sense that they were both huge at more or less the same time but 20+ years later their fates are polar opposites Liam has been part of a lot more good music than Ashcroft since 2000. Even with the spotty second half of Oasis' career, there's a gulf. Plus, Oasis were much bigger than The Verve to start with. And I suppose, being more mythic about it, Liam's status as the carefree, confident rock-star is a more enduring archetype than Ashcroft's sort of messianic, tortured thing that's been seen as something of a dated figure in music for a while now. But even with all that, Liam wasn't far from fading away between 2014-2016. He was the full overweight, divorced, former-rock-star cliche at that time. What he's managed in the last five years is incredible. I don't think Richard could repeat it. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 18, 2022 13:40:23 GMT -5
Maybe hinting at what's coming in Acoustic Hymns Vol. 2? I was originally excited for this acoustic album project a year ago. Then it was over produced. Wanted it more bare bones. Just Richard. His powerful voice and a guitar. No second album is needed. He really just needed to put his best 12 of the first album. Volume II is gonna be skimpy. |
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Post by Jessica on Mar 18, 2022 17:40:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I would have liked that better too, but the over production is a trend because of what the average person is listening to music on, headphones and speakers that favor bass and being used outside at loud levels. Doesn't even matter that we're buying lots and lots of vinyl or using hi-def streaming, cause it's all being played through the same stuff.
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Post by daviesh on Mar 18, 2022 18:00:18 GMT -5
It's funny how fame works when you think about it - I mean, why is it that some people are huge and then end up fading into 'irrelevancy' (by that I mean not really being cared about other than their core fanbase) and yet others who were also huge in the past manage to cross generations and maintain that legacy if not grow it. Obviously there are a lot of factors that go into it but it's funny to think about especially with Liam and Richard in the sense that they were both huge at more or less the same time but 20+ years later their fates are polar opposites Liam has been part of a lot more good music than Ashcroft since 2000. Even with the spotty second half of Oasis' career, there's a gulf. Plus, Oasis were much bigger than The Verve to start with. And I suppose, being more mythic about it, Liam's status as the carefree, confident rock-star is a more enduring archetype than Ashcroft's sort of messianic, tortured thing that's been seen as something of a dated figure in music for a while now. But even with all that, Liam wasn't far from fading away between 2014-2016. He was the full overweight, divorced, former-rock-star cliche at that time. What he's managed in the last five years is incredible. I don't think Richard could repeat it. I also think the Supersonic documentary really helped promote Liam to the young generation and gave his fanbase a new lease of life. |
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Post by captainsoul on May 6, 2022 17:26:42 GMT -5
Peter Ducharme would like to work with Richard Ashcroft Peter Ducharme, known by the pseudonym Master Cylinder, is a DJ based in Massachusetts. He is best known for Jung at Heart, the soundtrack to the Volkswagen Jetta car commercial Synchronicity. An ad in which a couple drives in the rain through New Orleans, watching in amazement as the surroundings fit the rhythm of the aforementioned song. Peter Ducharme has also created soundtracks for brands such as Converse and Red Bull. Having said that, last 22nd of April I remembered the advert where this song appeared and realised that it was published 22 years ago, in 2000. Well, I did a little more digging to find out who the composer of the song was, and I ended up finding out that it was the aforementioned Peter Ducharme. Soon after, I also came across his YouTube account where he has uploaded the Wolksvagen advert in good quality. But more importantly, in the messages section I found that Peter Ducharme was replying to some of the messages people were writing to him. Therefore, to try my luck I wrote a couple of them:  On his BandCamp account you can download the whole song for free: peterducharme.bandcamp.com/track/jung-at-heartMoreover, on YouTube, another user has shared the whole song: Do you think a collaboration between Peter Ducharme and Richard Ashcroft could be a good thing? Source: theververichardashcroftspain.wordpress.com/
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Post by captainsoul on May 29, 2022 9:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by outoftune on Jun 18, 2022 13:22:59 GMT -5
Anyone else see Richard Ashcroft in Edinburgh last night? Thought he was mega - seemed to be well up for it and a great setlist.
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Post by quantum on Jun 20, 2022 3:43:27 GMT -5
It's funny how fame works when you think about it - I mean, why is it that some people are huge and then end up fading into 'irrelevancy' (by that I mean not really being cared about other than their core fanbase) and yet others who were also huge in the past manage to cross generations and maintain that legacy if not grow it. Obviously there are a lot of factors that go into it but it's funny to think about especially with Liam and Richard in the sense that they were both huge at more or less the same time but 20+ years later their fates are polar opposites Liam has been part of a lot more good music than Ashcroft since 2000. Even with the spotty second half of Oasis' career, there's a gulf. Plus, Oasis were much bigger than The Verve to start with. And I suppose, being more mythic about it, Liam's status as the carefree, confident rock-star is a more enduring archetype than Ashcroft's sort of messianic, tortured thing that's been seen as something of a dated figure in music for a while now. But even with all that, Liam wasn't far from fading away between 2014-2016. He was the full overweight, divorced, former-rock-star cliche at that time. What he's managed in the last five years is incredible. I don't think Richard could repeat it. Agree 100%. I guess Richard could make an acoustic album of his best solo work. It's not at the same level as any of the Verve stuff, but there's probably a few quid in it for him. Sadly Urban Hymns was his lightening in a bottle moment. He wrote some amazing songs, and with Nick's help turned it into a classic album, but he has never been able to get anywhere near the magic since. It's frustrating for us, but must be soul destroying for the artist. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 20, 2022 4:11:26 GMT -5
Sadly Urban Hymns was his lightening in a bottle moment. He wrote some amazing songs, and with Nick's help turned it into a classic album, but he has never been able to get anywhere near the magic since. It's frustrating for us, but must be soul destroying for the artist.
It's also just the nature of inspiration, alas. Very up and down. It happens more often than not that if you make something great early in your career you can spend the rest of your days trying to get there again and never quite getting out of its shadow. But writing in any form is an odd thing. You might spin your wheels for decades and then suddenly, out of the blue, something amazing emerges. If it happened once, I think you always believe it can happen again (hence, saving your soul.)
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Post by outoftune on Jun 20, 2022 11:01:24 GMT -5
Sadly Urban Hymns was his lightening in a bottle moment. He wrote some amazing songs, and with Nick's help turned it into a classic album, but he has never been able to get anywhere near the magic since. It's frustrating for us, but must be soul destroying for the artist.
It's also just the nature of inspiration, alas. Very up and down. It happens more often than not that if you make something great early in your career you can spend the rest of your days trying to get there again and never quite getting out of its shadow. But writing in any form is an odd thing. You might spin your wheels for decades and then suddenly, out of the blue, something amazing emerges. If it happened once, I think you always believe it can happen again (hence, saving your soul.)
He had written some great songs before Urban Hymns - the songs he wrote in that album just hit a note commercially, gave them more exposure and took them to another level of popularity (much in the same way as WTSMG did for Oasis). I think the problem bands have after that is they then have to try and get a balance between writing songs that have the same commercial appeal whilst also staying true to their roots. Ashcroft has written loads of great songs since then - I guess he just had his moment of wider commercial appeal back then, which usually wanes to some extent over time. |
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Post by mancraider on Jun 22, 2022 3:07:17 GMT -5
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 22, 2022 6:33:03 GMT -5
Waiting for my copy to arrive at my door. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 22, 2022 8:22:14 GMT -5
I still feel let down by Richard’s “acoustic” album. Wish it was more stripped back. Vocals and guitar only. Didn’t need to be overproduced with strings or drums. Plus he didn’t add all the songs he could have. We don’t need a volume 2.
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Post by glider on May 24, 2023 14:58:55 GMT -5
Was able to figure out how Google Colab works and in between the usage time limits I'm given, I'm working on a Richard voice model. Only 3200 epochs on this one.
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Post by glider on May 26, 2023 22:29:04 GMT -5
Work in progress. Here's an example of the de-aging process, plus a bonus R.E.M. cover.
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Post by captainsoul on Aug 27, 2024 5:09:30 GMT -5
Apparently, he's said in an interview that he'll release new music by the end of the year.
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Post by captainsoul on Aug 29, 2024 6:20:07 GMT -5
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