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Post by tiger40 on Oct 30, 2021 13:31:48 GMT -5
This album was alright I guess, although I really don't see the point in it. Quite a lazy release imo. Yeah, I agree with you that it's quite a lazy release. I mean I could understand it if it was a best of or greatest hits album. |
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Post by robg1979 on Oct 30, 2021 14:16:14 GMT -5
This album was alright I guess, although I really don't see the point in it. Quite a lazy release imo. Yeah, I agree with you that it's quite a lazy release. I mean I could understand it if it was a best of or greatest hits album. Can I ask exactly how you define that it's lazy? Re-recording every track especially for this release? Lazy would have been using the original recordings, no? |
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Post by matt on Oct 30, 2021 16:23:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with you that it's quite a lazy release. I mean I could understand it if it was a best of or greatest hits album. Can I ask exactly how you define that it's lazy? Re-recording every track especially for this release? Lazy would have been using the original recordings, no? I think it's just generally uninspired and unimaginative to basically do covers of your own songs - to the point its pointless and you might as well release a compilation with the admittedly better originals. Anyway, here's Ashcroft doing what he should be doing. That Glastonbury performance is still one of my favourite ever acts by any act ever. Richard and the band were on top form. What a loss they are to music, even if they never made another album, you don't get many bands with this kind of energy live. |
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 30, 2021 22:46:13 GMT -5
Lyrics question on lucky man, something in my levity or something in my liberty ?! Both come up on google searches, not sure which is right …
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Post by Rolo on Oct 31, 2021 3:18:12 GMT -5
Might be in the minority here but actually prefer his vocals on this album to the original recordings mostly. Something the way they have been produced is really pleasing on the ear. Love the more gravelly mature sound he has now.
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Post by robg1979 on Oct 31, 2021 4:45:39 GMT -5
Can I ask exactly how you define that it's lazy? Re-recording every track especially for this release? Lazy would have been using the original recordings, no? I think it's just generally uninspired and unimaginative to basically do covers of your own songs - to the point its pointless and you might as well release a compilation with the admittedly better originals. I totally appreciate the logic of what you are saying, but I would at least highlight that if a complication is coming out then kudos has to be given for the artist actually bothering to do something different and providing the fans with alterntive versions. As an aside, does anyone remember the Q Magazine review of the Stops The Clocks Oasis compilation? They specifically made a point about saying that Acquiesce had been re-recorded especially for the new release. So I bought it only to find it was.... no different at all. I remember being pretty annoyed at the time, it was mentioned in the same issue on two separate occasions as well. I know we got some new content in live stuff at the time so I was buying it anyway, but that was a downer for me. Was curious how they could improve on perfection 😂 |
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Post by matt on Oct 31, 2021 5:16:52 GMT -5
Lyrics question on lucky man, something in my levity or something in my liberty ?! Both come up on google searches, not sure which is right … Definitely liberty. I think... |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 31, 2021 5:42:06 GMT -5
Regarding the laziness argument, the fact that EIGHT out of twelve songs on there are from Urban Hymns is really disappointing to me. Obviously it's the Verve's best known and most popular album, but it makes the lack of artistic ambition very clear. Ashcroft has written enough good songs for a 12 track acoustic album, with or without the Verve, not to be completely dependent on UH.
Where is A Northern Soul on there? History and On Your Own are pretty much made for this treatment, No Knock On My Door is one of my favourite Verve songs ever, A New Decade and This Is Music...what about the rest of his solo career? Human Conditions has a couple of gems on it.
I get that the "Vol. 1" indicates many of these will be on the second volume, but that doesn't make things much better.
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 31, 2021 8:27:47 GMT -5
Ashcroft should have just done a live or mtv unplugged release in my opinion
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Post by Manualex on Oct 31, 2021 9:35:01 GMT -5
Regarding the laziness argument, the fact that EIGHT out of twelve songs on there are from Urban Hymns is really disappointing to me. Obviously it's the Verve's best known and most popular album, but it makes the lack of artistic ambition very clear. Ashcroft has written enough good songs for a 12 track acoustic album, with or without the Verve, not to be completely dependent on UH. Where is A Northern Soul on there? History and On Your Own are pretty much made for this treatment, No Knock On My Door is one of my favourite Verve songs ever, A New Decade and This Is Music...what about the rest of his solo career? Human Conditions has a couple of gems on it. I get that the "Vol. 1" indicates many of these will be on the second volume, but that doesn't make things much better. Well at least there wouldnt be anymore Urban Hymns to cover, unless he does a acoustic Rolling People and Neon Wilderness thats It🤣 |
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Post by bt95 on Oct 31, 2021 14:39:15 GMT -5
Just got chance to listen now. I like the C'Mon People version but just think it gets a bit too 'duety' at times. Still great though.
Space And Time and Velvet Morning the highlights for me so far, just listening to the latter now.
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Post by bt95 on Oct 31, 2021 14:40:45 GMT -5
Regarding the laziness argument, the fact that EIGHT out of twelve songs on there are from Urban Hymns is really disappointing to me. Obviously it's the Verve's best known and most popular album, but it makes the lack of artistic ambition very clear. Ashcroft has written enough good songs for a 12 track acoustic album, with or without the Verve, not to be completely dependent on UH. Where is A Northern Soul on there? History and On Your Own are pretty much made for this treatment, No Knock On My Door is one of my favourite Verve songs ever, A New Decade and This Is Music...what about the rest of his solo career? Human Conditions has a couple of gems on it. I get that the "Vol. 1" indicates many of these will be on the second volume, but that doesn't make things much better. Do agree but this is Vol 1 so I imagine maube they will be on there. Northern Soul and gems from Storm In Heaven should surely have been considered. Would he ever do Verve songs that aren't his own though? A New Decade, This Is Music - they are Verve compositions. Ashcroft didn't write them. |
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Post by bt95 on Oct 31, 2021 14:45:32 GMT -5
I wish this was better. More stripped down. These sound like cover songs except they are Richard’s songs!!!!! I think Velvet Morning was great with the slide guitar. Break The Night With Colour might as well be the same record, like (or a live version) |
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Post by captainsoul on Nov 12, 2021 17:36:32 GMT -5
"Something in my liberty". Lyrics question on lucky man, something in my levity or something in my liberty ?! Both come up on google searches, not sure which is right … |
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Post by captainsoul on Nov 12, 2021 17:42:01 GMT -5
Regarding the laziness argument, the fact that EIGHT out of twelve songs on there are from Urban Hymns is really disappointing to me. Obviously it's the Verve's best known and most popular album, but it makes the lack of artistic ambition very clear. Ashcroft has written enough good songs for a 12 track acoustic album, with or without the Verve, not to be completely dependent on UH. Where is A Northern Soul on there? History and On Your Own are pretty much made for this treatment, No Knock On My Door is one of my favourite Verve songs ever, A New Decade and This Is Music...what about the rest of his solo career? Human Conditions has a couple of gems on it. I get that the "Vol. 1" indicates many of these will be on the second volume, but that doesn't make things much better. Well at least there wouldnt be anymore Urban Hymns to cover, unless he does a acoustic Rolling People and Neon Wilderness thats It🤣 Not really. He also wrote "This Time" and it's not included in Vol. 1. |
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 14, 2021 13:42:48 GMT -5
You wait, Vol 2 will never come… 😆
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Post by captainsoul on Dec 5, 2021 13:10:46 GMT -5
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Post by captainsoul on Jan 14, 2022 19:13:38 GMT -5
New remix of C'mon People. It's not longer "acoustic":
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Post by Jim on Jan 20, 2022 11:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by bt95 on Jan 30, 2022 19:38:49 GMT -5
Thought it was really great. he said some really interesting stuff and the performances were great. Bloody hell though, Noel and Liam have aged well compared to Richard lol |
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Post by dampcottage on Feb 9, 2022 16:34:18 GMT -5
Richard's voice is fuckin golden, I give him shit on here but still the greatest thing I've heard live is Ashcroft with an acoustic
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 17, 2022 2:20:40 GMT -5
Him having again premiere on youtube for some old videos, while 3.3 fans will wait to see it, is funny and sad also 🤣
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Post by quantum on Mar 17, 2022 6:04:04 GMT -5
Him having again premiere on youtube for some old videos, while 3.3 fans will wait to see it, is funny and sad also 🤣 eh? |
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 17, 2022 6:55:53 GMT -5
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Post by quantum on Mar 17, 2022 9:06:20 GMT -5
Ouch
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