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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 3, 2014 14:40:44 GMT -5
I support BDI because I support LAG. And they can produce the good tune. But I find them distinctively average. I followed them greatly through DGSS, saw them live twice, etc. But I've gone off of them since BE.
Originally thought BE was far superior to DGSS. And while it's more interesting, it's a pretty poor album altogether (but has its moments, for sure). And it flopped commercially (which I know we and LAG don't care about too much, but it does influence whether the next album will be made. Although I guess if the Twang made it to 4 albums, BDI can make it to 3!).
I never find myself yearning to listen to BDI. Hardly do these days (that being said, I've hardly listened to NGHFB in the past year, and I love that album).
I would much prefer LAG to become LANG, and BDI to become Oasis. But short of that, I want a 3rd album even if it remains mediocre.
Capable musicians. Hit and miss songwriting. Are we, as a fanbase, expecting them to complete such a hattrick?
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Post by joladella on Mar 3, 2014 15:27:14 GMT -5
As I love both DGSS and BE I surely hope so. I guess whatever we might hear the next few weeks might shed some light on those chances.
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Post by scott1 on Mar 3, 2014 15:29:31 GMT -5
I'd love more music, I just cannot see it happening.
Can you really imagine a third album getting the press and excitement that was given to BE prior to its release? I certainly can't. The excitement that met the surfacing of Flick Of The Finger? I just can't picture it.
It's been tough for Beady Eye since BE came out. If they plan on releasing anything else, a longer break will be more than necessary.
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Post by shinealight on Mar 3, 2014 15:38:00 GMT -5
I hope so,can't see it happening earlier than late 2015... what else would they do? Liam is still rockstar and will be. Gem? If he fancies to be in NGHFB than he should go for it... would be shame coz he will be just a hired guitarist nothing more nothing less. Andy and Ride? That would be relegation to Camden town pubs IMO. Chris will ok anywhere. Otherwise I have totally different opinion on BE and Beady Eye as a band. I think they re Great, Great musicians Great songwriters...and comparing them to Twang (is it a band? is an insult for Liam & co
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 3, 2014 15:40:35 GMT -5
I want a 3rd record with more songs like "flick of the finger" and "soul love" and less "I`m just sayin" oasis sounding stuff. stay with Dave Sitek or go to someone like Anton Newcombe and fuck commercial success, focus in the psychedelic sounds, taht more and more conquer their style and get yourself to the Austin Psych Fest 2015 or 2016. be brave and do some epic 9 minute tunes like Primal Scream had done with "more light". I want a dark and moody album and I think, that after 2 fucked up years with BE (gems accident, liams divorce etc.) they have lived through hard times and emotions, that they could produce brilliant stuff, if they would use that influences in a good way.
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 3, 2014 15:56:54 GMT -5
Would definitely love a 3rd, much more than I would want an oasis reunion - that doesn't bother me in the slightest right now. Give it another 10 years.
Would be great to take things with Sitek much further.
Get rid of the 'face the crowd' type songs and develop on the stronger BE tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 16:30:41 GMT -5
The third album is a milestone , first one usually songs that were written , second one have songs that were left off first , third is usually mostly all new , why I say if they do it , it will be either there there BREAKOUT career saving project or there deathknell. So yes I see a third. And sales ,attendance and , and reviews will determine if thee is a fourth. Because in no way do I see Liam , or the gem and Andy wAnting to beat a dead horse for a fourth time .....and by dead horse , I mean if they don't reach the level of expectation some 6 or 7 years and 3 lps in. There won't be a need for a fourth lackluster ( masses ) reception
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 3, 2014 16:31:32 GMT -5
At the moment I'd have no interest in one for awhile. Maybe if they went away for awhile and came back in mid 2016 or something with a new record or something.
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Post by scott1 on Mar 3, 2014 16:38:26 GMT -5
Would definitely love a 3rd, much more than I would want an oasis reunion - that doesn't bother me in the slightest right now. Give it another 10 years. Would be great to take things with Sitek much further. Get rid of the 'face the crowd' type songs and develop on the stronger BE tracks. I agree with continuing the experimentalism that we saw on BE. Despite tracks like Face The Crowd or I'm Just Saying giving me that instant hit, it's the likes of Soon Come Tomorrow amd Don't Brother Me that have grown on me the most. The melody on Don't Brother Me is spot-on, and if Liam can do more of that then I'll be more than pleased. Even For Anyone is a highlight of both albums in my eyes, sounds good live too.
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Post by Frodis on Mar 3, 2014 20:02:49 GMT -5
Yes.
They'll pick themselves up, dust the dirt off and continue on.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 3, 2014 20:25:09 GMT -5
I expect a third album. I want a third album. Beady Eye improved significantly over their debut in my opinion, so I suspect if the trend continues, the third album will be really great. I do think that they should concentrate on improving the hooks and polishing up the lyrics no matter how long it takes, even if it's an entire extra year.
Beady Eye is already down to its core fanbase, so really they won't lose fans from a longer break. And maybe, just maybe with a little extra time devoted to sharpening the tunes, they'll make a hit or two and achieve marginal mainstream success upon release.
I also think they should drift away from the acoustic songs and bring in more guitars. That's the only thing I don't care for about BE, too many Ballroom Figured, which are nice songs, but too nice (if that makes any sense). This isn't to say I want more Face The Crowd's though.
Also, it might be in Liam's best interest to record songs in a lower key so as not to put so much strain on his voice in live performance.
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Post by stevemeister on Mar 3, 2014 20:30:46 GMT -5
I kind of disagree with people slagging off Face the Crowd all the time, it's a fucking proper Rock and Roll tune. I quite enjoy Liam's rocking songs, they're simple, angry and just gets my feet thumping.
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Post by stevemeister on Mar 3, 2014 20:32:33 GMT -5
FOTF is a shit tune, the production is awesome how ever and somewhat experimental. But that fucking initial drum beat is lazy....write a fucking chorus, or a mid eight...something.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 3, 2014 20:40:01 GMT -5
Well, I hope so. I really liked that second album. Especially Gem and Andy's songs, which were - except FTC - terrific IMO.
Regarding exposure, I don't think its a matter of quality of songwriting. There are absoutely dreadful 'artists' out there with the media at their feet all over the world. It just depends on how much promotion (including touring) the record company is willing to invest into the band.
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Post by Regi on Mar 4, 2014 3:29:47 GMT -5
A couple of songs apart, I really like BE.
They have had management issues on both album tours, and I think that if Beady Eye are to make a 3rd album, they should have a couple of years out to sort that kind of thing out and also to write a load of tunes.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 4, 2014 4:41:20 GMT -5
I desperately need a 3rd Beady Eye album. Desperately and i mean it. the sooner the better.
and please no oasis reunion unlesw we are gonna have a new oasis album
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2014 9:22:36 GMT -5
I think Beady Eye album #3 won't hit the shelves until late 2015 at best.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 4, 2014 9:46:48 GMT -5
I think Beady Eye album #3 won't hit the shelves until late 2015 at best. I'd be shocked with a 2015 release. They'll be finishing up their tour this year in the midst of the Oasis reissues and I think most people are fairly certain Noel's album will be out in 2015 and he'll be touring in 2015-2016. I think late 2016 is the best case scenario, probably early 2017. This is also going off the fact that Liam and the rest of the band did say that they wanted to take a break after this album even before everything began to fall apart. I would think with all the events that have happened they would want that extended break even more.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2014 10:03:56 GMT -5
I think Beady Eye album #3 won't hit the shelves until late 2015 at best. I'd be shocked with a 2015 release. They'll be finishing up their tour this year in the midst of the Oasis reissues and I think most people are fairly certain Noel's album will be out in 2015 and he'll be touring in 2015-2016. I think late 2016 is the best case scenario, probably early 2017. This is also going off the fact that Liam and the rest of the band did say that they wanted to take a break after this album even before everything began to fall apart. I would think with all the events that have happened they would want that extended break even more. I'm actually thinking a Liam Gallagher solo album comes out before another Beady Eye one. Tons of collaborations throughout the album.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Mar 4, 2014 10:07:39 GMT -5
I'd be shocked with a 2015 release. They'll be finishing up their tour this year in the midst of the Oasis reissues and I think most people are fairly certain Noel's album will be out in 2015 and he'll be touring in 2015-2016. I think late 2016 is the best case scenario, probably early 2017. This is also going off the fact that Liam and the rest of the band did say that they wanted to take a break after this album even before everything began to fall apart. I would think with all the events that have happened they would want that extended break even more. I'm actually thinking a Liam Gallagher solo album comes out before another Beady Eye one. Tons of collaborations throughout the album. i'm all for the solo album idea. working with his exbrother-in-law would be very interesting but maybe not possible now. God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 4, 2014 10:14:08 GMT -5
I'm actually thinking a Liam Gallagher solo album comes out before another Beady Eye one. Tons of collaborations throughout the album. i'm all for the solo album idea. working with his exbrother-in-law would be very interesting but maybe not possible now. God bless. Think about it. He could do a track with Serge from Kasabian. Another with the Death In Vegas guys. Maybe one with Johnny Marr on guitar. And so on. Would create some interesting results to say the least. He doesn't even need to tour it. Just do some TV slots.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 10:55:59 GMT -5
i'm all for the solo album idea. working with his exbrother-in-law would be very interesting but maybe not possible now. God bless. Think about it. He could do a track with Serge from Kasabian. Another with the Death In Vegas guys. Maybe one with Johnny Marr on guitar. And so on. Would create some interesting results to say the least. He doesn't even need to tour it. Just do some TV slots. Man Posted that when this lp broke !!!!! Liam solo , with guests !!!! Absolutely
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Post by shoes222 on Mar 4, 2014 13:33:53 GMT -5
Think about it. He could do a track with Serge from Kasabian. Another with the Death In Vegas guys. Maybe one with Johnny Marr on guitar. And so on. Would create some interesting results to say the least. He doesn't even need to tour it. Just do some TV slots. Man Posted that when this lp broke !!!!! Liam solo , with guests !!!! Absolutely I'd be down with this as long as he lets the collaborators write the songs
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Post by allingoodtime on Mar 4, 2014 14:13:46 GMT -5
I hope they do release another album, i enjoyed both of them so far but they can do much better.
If Liam can create songs on Songbird's level he shouldn't have any problems..just takes some effort I guess..and good management! they could have chosen better singles last year
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 4, 2014 15:01:59 GMT -5
FOTF is a shit tune, the production is awesome how ever and somewhat experimental. But that fucking initial drum beat is lazy....write a fucking chorus, or a mid eight...something. we had chorus enough with OAsis. let them go abroad and try different structures. The drum beat is changing after one minute, so I see no problem in that somehow. It`s not like the tunes on NGHFB where the beat stays nearly the whole fucking tune and that on i think 4 songs^^
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