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Post by scott1 on Mar 4, 2014 15:14:43 GMT -5
we had chorus enough with OAsis. let them go abroad and try different structures. The drum beat is changing after one minute, so I see no problem in that somehow. It`s not like the tunes on NGHFB where the beat stays nearly the whole fucking tune and that on i think 4 songs^^ Although the drum beat changes after 1 minute, it's the drum beat from Strawberry Fields - I like Flick Of The Finger but "different structure" doesn't really apply. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 4, 2014 15:20:33 GMT -5
we had chorus enough with OAsis. let them go abroad and try different structures. The drum beat is changing after one minute, so I see no problem in that somehow. It`s not like the tunes on NGHFB where the beat stays nearly the whole fucking tune and that on i think 4 songs^^ Although the drum beat changes after 1 minute, it's the drum beat from Strawberry Fields - I like Flick Of The Finger but "different structure" doesn't really apply. ok never thought of the strawberry fields forever drumtrack. but I think this is what they wanted! a building up, knock the shit out of the song, drum pattern. It`s kinda hypnotic for me and makes this song special. I know its a matter of taste and maybe I was a bit harsh to the fellow I quoted, but I really think a chorus forced in or change in speed would just rip apart this hypnotic stomping tune. |
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Post by scott1 on Mar 4, 2014 15:27:53 GMT -5
ok never thought of the strawberry fields forever drumtrack. but I think this is what they wanted! a building up, knock the shit out of the song, drum pattern. It`s kinda hypnotic for me and makes this song special. I know its a matter of taste and maybe I was a bit harsh to the fellow I quoted, but I really think a chorus forced in or change in speed would just rip apart this hypnotic stomping tune. I see what you mean about hypnotic. The chords just get you into a rhythm like they do at the back end of I Am The Walrus on The Masterplan. I actually think this could be why lots of their songs translate well live. For example, I prefer the Jools Holland performance of Flick Of The Finger to the album track, so I'd hope a 3rd album sounded as good live. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 4, 2014 15:30:05 GMT -5
ok never thought of the strawberry fields forever drumtrack. but I think this is what they wanted! a building up, knock the shit out of the song, drum pattern. It`s kinda hypnotic for me and makes this song special. I know its a matter of taste and maybe I was a bit harsh to the fellow I quoted, but I really think a chorus forced in or change in speed would just rip apart this hypnotic stomping tune. I see what you mean about hypnotic. The chords just get you into a rhythm like they do at the back end of I Am The Walrus on The Masterplan. I actually think this could be why lots of their songs translate well live. For example, I prefer the Jools Holland performance of Flick Of The Finger to the album track, so I'd hope a 3rd album sounded as good live. this is why I meant Anton Newcombe as a producer. Imagine Beady Eye playing and sounding like this. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 4, 2014 16:44:27 GMT -5
I can still see there being enough hype surrouding it to get things running again.
I mean, wherever Liam is there will be enough magazines wanting him on the front. That man and Noel sell NME, you only need to look at the most read on its website all the time to see that.
Headlines like "Third time lucky for LG" and shit and then them going on about the brain injury and leg break and divorce and how shit everything was during BE.
Then hit the ground running with a song equally as strong/inventive as Flick Of The Finger and then put some strong songs into a set thats already looking good and you can have the band at an all time high without a doubt.
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 4, 2014 17:03:37 GMT -5
Yeh very true about the NME thing.
I think Liam is definitely going to have doubts but hopefully after a bit of time off plus the rest of the band should hopefully want to carry on, will mean a 3rd album! Fingers crossed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 17:35:15 GMT -5
They're never, ever going to be commercially successful, we at least to their expectations. I agree with people saying they should continue using more experimental producers and moving away from the Oasis sound. BE is probably going to be the best body of work they ever produce, I personally still think all 16 full songs are really, really good! So I doubt the quality of songs will be this good again so they have to move into experimentation and trying new things, if they want to succeed...I'm personally happy either way  I wish they'd give up chasing success and doing massive tours and just start making music for the fun of it |
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Post by cigarsinhell on Mar 4, 2014 21:25:02 GMT -5
I hope the lads carry on. It's been a dreadful year for them, and (among other things) it's possible that Gem just isn't up to the grueling pace of an extended tour. I know that if I'd fractured my skull and a leg or two, I wouldn't feel like standing in front of a thousand decibels of guitar hell every night just a few months after such an injury. Liam needs to get his life sorted out and back on track. Some time out to
heal . . .
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Post by stevemeister on Mar 5, 2014 1:12:48 GMT -5
You know what what's a real good mix of tunes? Mixing the BE album with SOTSOG and it's B-Sides
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Post by space75gr on Mar 5, 2014 3:56:50 GMT -5
it seems like a great idea for Liam to work with other musicians and hear that voice singing great tunes.
BUT
i dont want a solo album by Liam.I want Liam to work with his friends, with Gem, Andy, Chris, with Beady Eye.i m probably a traditional guy...as long a these people are together with no other thoughts in their minds, they should continue their beautiful and interesting journey...til the oasis comeback. wih a new album.
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Post by Jgrp on Mar 5, 2014 12:21:49 GMT -5
I recon (not fact) that Liam is feeling senses of insecurity for the first time ever, after going from the circus of Oasis to the small scale Beady Eye. Therefore I really can't see him doing a solo album.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2014 19:19:11 GMT -5
People on here who blab on about commercial success and bumming the high flying birds because of your closet hate for LG let me tell you something.
The buzz i get from a Beady Eye album leaking is exactly the same as with Oasis. I didnt feel that with the High Flying Birds. You know why? Because there is something great about hearing LG on something new. Something great about not knowing what direction each song is going in. Something great about uncovering another LG gem like Evil Eye.
As much as i love Noel and his debut, i feel like i know exactly what im going to get from his new album. Polished tunes, catchy hooks, a few choirs. It lacks the balls of Beady Eye.
It's a formula designed to get a song or two on the radio or on 4 or 5 tv adverts to shift a million albums. It isn't a formula designed for the fans.
That is why i want another Beady Eye album. Fuck you haters
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2014 19:30:55 GMT -5
What comes first, the new Star Wars movie or Beady Eye #3?
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Post by deasy on Mar 6, 2014 19:32:07 GMT -5
bumming the high flying birds I don't think you even realise how ironic half your posts are. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2014 19:49:15 GMT -5
I make a comment and look who appears
Deasy55
So what is ironic about becoming nauseated with the High Flying Birds love in while you only come onto the Beady Eye forum to make sly digs at LG and then when confronted try to disguise it as constructive criticism and seem dumbfounded by the accusations?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2014 19:54:17 GMT -5
People on here who blab on about commercial success and bumming the high flying birds because of your closet hate for LG let me tell you something. The buzz i get from a Beady Eye album leaking is exactly the same as with Oasis. I didnt feel that with the High Flying Birds. You know why? Because there is something great about hearing LG on something new. Something great about not knowing what direction each song is going in. Something great about uncovering another LG gem like Evil Eye. As much as i love Noel and his debut, i feel like i know exactly what im going to get from his new album. Polished tunes, catchy hooks, a few choirs. It lacks the balls of Beady Eye. It's a formula designed to get a song or two on the radio or on 4 or 5 tv adverts to shift a million albums. It isn't a formula designed for the fans. That is why i want another Beady Eye album. Fuck you haters Believe you me.........Beady Eye are/were desperate to get a song on the radio or tv. Liam spoke of it often between DGSS and BE. They fucking need it too. |
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Post by deasy on Mar 6, 2014 19:54:38 GMT -5
I make a comment and look who appears Deasy55 So what is ironic about becoming nauseated with the High Flying Birds love in while you only come onto the Beady Eye forum to make sly digs at LGand then when confronted try to disguise it as constructive criticism and seem dumbfounded by the accusations? Feel free to go through my post history. You will find none of this. Good night young Liam. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2014 19:57:48 GMT -5
I make a comment and look who appears Deasy55 So what is ironic about becoming nauseated with the High Flying Birds love in while you only come onto the Beady Eye forum to make sly digs at LGand then when confronted try to disguise it as constructive criticism and seem dumbfounded by the accusations? Feel free to go through my post history. You will find none of this. Good night young Liam. What is with forum members lately accusing other members of posts that never happened. I got nailed with that the other day, naturally no backing statements were ever produced.............because they don't exist!  |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2014 20:03:11 GMT -5
I dont need to go through your history, i remember it quite clearly. You are like a homosexual in denial.
And as for Lennon, you are clearly missing my point.
Noel has been around the block and knows how to do things. His album is great. But it never gets out of generic safe mode for me. When i hear songs like What A Life, they were always going to appeal to a mainstream audience and fairplay for that. But give me Flick Of The Finger any day of the week.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Mar 6, 2014 20:03:51 GMT -5
It's like watching John lennon slowly fuck Serge
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Post by deasy on Mar 6, 2014 20:18:28 GMT -5
Feel free to go through my post history. You will find none of this. Good night young Liam. What is with forum members lately accusing other members of posts that never happened. I got nailed with that the other day, naturally no backing statements were ever produced.............because they don't exist! Yup, it's a common trend lately sadly. |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Mar 6, 2014 20:21:34 GMT -5
I am quite confident that their quality of lyrics will never improve. As a songwriter myself I believe that changing one's style of lyrics is much more difficult than changing how one writes melodies and such.
But I still do want a third BDI album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2014 20:27:53 GMT -5
I dont need to go through your history, i remember it quite clearly. You are like a homosexual in denial. And as for Lennon, you are clearly missing my point. Noel has been around the block and knows how to do things. His album is great. But it never gets out of generic safe mode for me. When i hear songs like What A Life, they were always going to appeal to a mainstream audience and fairplay for that. But give me Flick Of The Finger any day of the week. I agree with you. One of my biggest knocks on Noel is he always plays it safe. He dumped the Death In Vegas sessions, he abandoned the AA sessions. Those are the projects I wanted to hear the most! I only disagree with you over Beady Eye seemingly not caring about making music for radio or tv. This is Liam Gallagher. The man lives to be #1 and hasn't since Noel walked out in August 2009. He wants a radio hit, the band wants it.....the fans want it like us. It'll breathe more life and interest into the band which IMO they may need. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2014 20:29:10 GMT -5
It's like watching John lennon slowly fuck Serge I hope it's kinda like this.............. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 6, 2014 22:01:22 GMT -5
I dont need to go through your history, i remember it quite clearly. You are like a homosexual in denial. And as for Lennon, you are clearly missing my point. Noel has been around the block and knows how to do things. His album is great. But it never gets out of generic safe mode for me. When i hear songs like What A Life, they were always going to appeal to a mainstream audience and fairplay for that. But give me Flick Of The Finger any day of the week. I agree with you. One of my biggest knocks on Noel is he always plays it safe. He dumped the Death In Vegas sessions, he abandoned the AA sessions. Those are the projects I wanted to hear the most! I only disagree with you over Beady Eye seemingly not caring about making music for radio or tv. This is Liam Gallagher. The man lives to be #1 and hasn't since Noel walked out in August 2009. He wants a radio hit, the band wants it.....the fans want it like us. It'll breathe more life and interest into the band which IMO they may need. I think if all three collaborate on 1 song with a good producer they can achieve that hit. Just 1 hit and anyone who wasn't aware of Beady Eye will checkout their other music and see they have a few gems amongst their albums. But they have to put a bit of work into it and chuck out a lot of money to promote it properly. It needs a proper video, it needs radio play on every relevant radio station. It needs a lot of interviews, and a lot of performances. And most importantly, no leak! I think FOTF would have done similar to The Roller had it not leaked so early. People lost interest in the stems and that whole campaign. One thing I like that they did for BE were the free performances. They should do a few of those in a couple different countries. Just play a handful of tunes, plus their hit single in highly traffic places that would draw a crowd other than those who had intended to arrive. Imagine a set in times square. |
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