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Post by mememe26 on May 30, 2013 17:19:22 GMT -5
Some people need to take the blinkers off! I understand everyone has different opinions which is fair enough but some people givin' it 9/10 are laughable. Definitely Maybe, WTSMG are to me 10/10 so to say this is a 9 is fuckin' laughable. This is only my opinion of course. Why? If some one likes the songs that much why on earth is it laughable? Just because the first 2 Oasis albums are 10/10 to you doesn't mean that someone else has to follow your scoring and opinion. Cos for someone to put this album up there with those two is nonsense, I don't care how much they like the songs. Absolute madness.
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Post by ringoice on May 30, 2013 17:28:01 GMT -5
It would be a worthy successor to dm and mg to be honest.
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Post by dmahermusic on May 30, 2013 17:29:03 GMT -5
Why? If some one likes the songs that much why on earth is it laughable? Just because the first 2 Oasis albums are 10/10 to you doesn't mean that someone else has to follow your scoring and opinion. Cos for someone to put this album up there with those two is nonsense, I don't care how much they like the songs. Absolute madness. that was liam gallagher in the 90's with that voice and noel with that songwriting.. this is 2013, after an album like DGSS you dont expect to get a belter like this, its as simple as that... it seems like a timeless album too from my current judgement!
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Post by beats30 on May 30, 2013 17:29:33 GMT -5
Why? If some one likes the songs that much why on earth is it laughable? Just because the first 2 Oasis albums are 10/10 to you doesn't mean that someone else has to follow your scoring and opinion. Cos for someone to put this album up there with those two is nonsense, I don't care how much they like the songs. Absolute madness. can't we just be happy that the boys have produced a fantastic album instead of comparing it 2 arguably the 2 greatest albums of all time. It's a terrific record and far exceeds my expectations That's why beady eye have arguably the toughest jobs In music. Everything gets compared 2 the 1st 2 oasis albums. Compare it to kasabian or arctic monkeys or kings of Leon and its right up there
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Post by Stemot on May 30, 2013 17:31:20 GMT -5
Why? If some one likes the songs that much why on earth is it laughable? Just because the first 2 Oasis albums are 10/10 to you doesn't mean that someone else has to follow your scoring and opinion. Cos for someone to put this album up there with those two is nonsense, I don't care how much they like the songs. Absolute madness. Madness to you because of your opinion, You're opinion isn't overriding consensus.
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Post by jakecosenza on May 30, 2013 17:32:30 GMT -5
I'll give it a 6.5/10...easily the lowest initial rating for a Gallagher-product I've ever given, its just very 'eh'...A few good songs.
Overall it's just hard to love...this album is like a 5 year old showing you a finger painting. You applaud it for the effort and hard work, but at the end of the day its really not that good haha
Track by Track:
Flick of the Finger: Decent melody...horns make it a good track. Soul Love: Favorite off the album, dark, haunting and understated which I like. It's Start Anew's evil twin. Face the Crowd: Mediocre L.A.G. rock song, but less catchy. Second Bite: Decent track, nothing more...lyrics are shit. Soon Come Tomorrow: I like this one a lot too, groovy man... Iz Rite: Horrible, I really just do not like this track it just is not my type of song. I'm Just Saying: 90's style, pretty enjoyable, its like a worse version of Hello. Don't Brother Me: Plodding, boring, doesn't have much going for it Shine a Light: I like this one..its got energy a la bring the light. Ballroom Figured: Take it or leave it, no opinion on it. Start Anew: Really like it, production is awesome.
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Post by Rifles on May 30, 2013 17:33:01 GMT -5
People always overrate new albums initially. They'll come to their senses a bit in a couple weeks once the music settles in. This happens EVERY time.
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Post by thetruth on May 30, 2013 17:39:02 GMT -5
People always overrate new albums initially. They'll come to their senses a bit in a couple weeks once the music settles in. This happens EVERY time. Maybe but I think some songs are instant classic and stay that way. On HFB, EOTR and IIFA were instant classics and they still are the best song on the album for me. Bt broken arrow was a song I really like on the moment but now don't care much about. But I knew it wasn't an instant classic.
Here soon come tomorow and star a new are instant classic to me, I know they'll stay that way, they're just up there.
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Post by doggboy10 on May 30, 2013 17:44:59 GMT -5
Having listened several times over through my best headphones I can honestly say without bias "I love it", getting sitek on board was a master stroke and elevates the album even more, it's amazing what a great producer can bring to an album & I only hope Noel ditches sardy & gives someone else a try to work some magic (for example soul love production & overall atmosphere is moody as hell but beautiful at the same time, only great producers can achieve these results). Anyway back on track (excuse the pun) this album flows perfectly in it's entirety & each track is complimented by the next, sure there are a couple of fillers (which I still enjoy) but what album has 100% classic song after classic song? Not many that's why they are labelled "classics". Liam carries an album like no other vocalist of recent history, the way he attacks a song or gives a certain delivery is so different from anything else in music it's a pleasure to have him back....instantly recognisable vocalist who can build a song from good to great. Now for me I think second bite of the apple isn't the best representation of the album and is the weakest track on it, I would've had IZ Rite as the single instead so that should be next...great catchy little feel good tune which appeals to a wider demographic, start anew also has to be a single as its simply a great introspective song that coud grace many a film. As a massive oasis I do like DGSS & NGHFB whist admitting they have massive weak spots & i think thus far (early stages I know) that BE is my favourite post Oasis album, it has many elements and layers to keep me interested (big thanks in part to sitek, outro's on don't brother me & soul love are captivating). Just glad to have some quality rock n roll music back in amongst all the commercial pop nonsense we are constantly drip fed to shake things up a bit. Anyway Start Anew is just finishing up so I will leave you all to enjoy the music.
Adios amigos & best wishes
doggboy
P.S. I have the deluxe cd on order and I hope everyone else is gonna support the boys & "real music" to?
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Post by Guy Fawkes on May 30, 2013 18:04:20 GMT -5
it's not you BDI, it's me....
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 18:10:06 GMT -5
P.S. I have the deluxe cd on order and I hope everyone else is gonna support the boys & "real music" to? This. They deserve to do well from this. Proper music from proper musicians
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Post by olesiadudnik on May 30, 2013 18:27:27 GMT -5
People always overrate new albums initially. They'll come to their senses a bit in a couple weeks once the music settles in. This happens EVERY time. To be fair, that's 99% of all albums ever released. (Please don't check my figures on the above statement. I'm only an interneter.)
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 30, 2013 20:08:27 GMT -5
People always overrate new albums initially. They'll come to their senses a bit in a couple weeks once the music settles in. This happens EVERY time. To be fair, that's 99% of all albums ever released. (Please don't check my figures on the above statement. I'm only an interneter.) Opinions of albums to go the other way to.
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Post by Bellboy on May 30, 2013 20:26:52 GMT -5
Amazing! Completely different to DGSS (Which I loved too) this is a more mature album with actually alot of depth and melody. Liam's vocals really make it for me and he continue's to evolve and even sound better! I don't think you can compare the 2 albums really though. The lyrics are good, A distinct lack of "Come On's" "Na NaNa Na's" and "Yeah Yeah Yeah's" (ok apart from 1 or 2) which is refreshing. I don't even mind repeating verses as there is more content overall in there. I am plesantly surprised from having inital doubts after hearing Second Bite (Which I still think is crap) having said that I was at Beady Eye's 1st ever gig, I have pre-ordered my signed copy of BE and am happy that the band have produced a solid album bringing some Oasis esc sounds and some brand new sounds into my life. The bonus tracks are great too man. As the band were on this vibe/form and had Sitek in, maybe they should have done a double album?! I still miss a catchy chorus from time to time but overall...Superb. Blown Away by BE. The Future Gets Written Today! Roll on the live shows
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Post by Jack on May 30, 2013 20:59:21 GMT -5
I really think BE had potential to be more experimental and psychadelic (Soon come tommorow, startanew, FOTF and second half of DBM) which would of been so much better. Unfortunatley, I think the group were too afraid to step out of their comfort zone 100%, which is why songs such as FTC and SAL sound like they belong on the previous album and they personally do nothing for me, which is a shame as i was looking forward to some original sounding rock'n'roll stompers from the boys On a positive note the production is fucking amazing. I bought some new earphones today which cost quite a bit, just so i could re-listen to the album again and was def worth it. Best production since SOTSOG, in my opinion obviously. So yeah, a great solid album only spoilt by a few samey throwaway tracks. I think the tracklist should have looked like.... 1. Flick Of The Finger 2. Soul Love 3. World Not Set In Stone 4. Soon Come Tommorow 5. Second Bite 6. Iz Rite 7. Shine A Light 8. Dont Brother Me 9. Off At The Next Exit 10. Start Anew
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Post by Jack on May 30, 2013 21:18:58 GMT -5
I just watched this and felt both great and sad, cos its such fucking good rock'n'roll that will never be reproduced by the boys.
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Post by OasisFan199 on May 30, 2013 21:50:59 GMT -5
Though I've only listened to it straight through a couple times, I'd probably give it 7/10 right now... For the record, I'd give NGHFB 7.5/10 and DGSS 5/10. Even though I prefer NGHFB, I definitely find it easier to listen to BE straight through. NGHFB starts to feel plodding after a while, and the production makes my ears bleed. I still prefer the songs on it though. My favorite tracks right now are FOTF, Soon Comes Tomorrow, Soul Love, and Iz Rite. I'm also really liking the ambient outros on a few tracks. I guess I'm an exception, as my least favorite tracks right now are I'm Just Saying and Start Anew. THIS. The Production is so heavy and boring. Its the opposite of fun. Good songs, but poor production makes Dream On impossible to love.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 30, 2013 22:07:16 GMT -5
Though I've only listened to it straight through a couple times, I'd probably give it 7/10 right now... For the record, I'd give NGHFB 7.5/10 and DGSS 5/10. Even though I prefer NGHFB, I definitely find it easier to listen to BE straight through. NGHFB starts to feel plodding after a while, and the production makes my ears bleed. I still prefer the songs on it though. My favorite tracks right now are FOTF, Soon Comes Tomorrow, Soul Love, and Iz Rite. I'm also really liking the ambient outros on a few tracks. I guess I'm an exception, as my least favorite tracks right now are I'm Just Saying and Start Anew. THIS. The Production is so heavy and boring. Its the opposite of fun. Good songs, but poor production makes Dream On impossible to love. I despise it with a passion. I still listened to it, but then the video came out and it ruined what little I did like about it. Have not listened to it since. Noel, stay out of America when recording, they ruin things and make it sound like poppy dance music.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 22:18:48 GMT -5
I'll wait a month for a more accurate review. I just think this whole batch of songs is amazing, so my judgement is a bit clouded.
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Post by basiloasis1974 on May 30, 2013 22:24:05 GMT -5
Makes DGSS look like a better album, which is not a good thing WHAT!!!!!! Seriously??? No way Jose!!!
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Post by wonderplan on May 30, 2013 22:28:13 GMT -5
Just listened to all the more upbeat tracks through headphones cranked to eleven, massive experience!
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Post by Teal on May 30, 2013 22:43:20 GMT -5
I've listened to BE I think 3-4 times now. Far better than DGSS and probably equal to HFB for me. But definitely a fun album. Songs that stand out to me are Flick of the Finger, Soul Love, Start Anew, Soon Come Tomorrow, and Don't Brother Me. The rest are decent album tracks and the only one I really dislike is Shine A Light. I usually know what I like when I hear it but I also know I get excited when new music is released which means it's too early for me to write a good review. So for now I'll go with 7/10. (DGSS being 5/10 and HFB also 7/10)
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Post by spaneli on May 31, 2013 0:06:47 GMT -5
Flick of the Finger 8/10 Soul Love 7.5/10 Face The Crowd 4/10 Second Bite of the Apple 5/10 Soon Comes Tomorrow 8/10 Iz Rite 5/10 I'm Just Saying 6/10 Don't Brother Me 6.5/10 Shine A Light 6/10 Ballroom Figured 6/10 Start Anew 8/10
So a 6.36, but I'll round it up to a 6.5/10
Good:
Start Anew, Soul Love, Flick of the Finger, and Soon Comes Tomorrow
Average: Iz Rite, I'm Just Saying, Don't Brother Me, Shine A Light, Ballroom Figured, Second Bit of the Apple
Below Average:
Face The Crowd
The albums opens well, lots of swagger and gravitas within Flick of the Finger. Love Soul Love. I think it's brilliant and it's the perfect example of what I was hoping Sitek would do with Beady Eye. The outro is great. In my opinion, it's one of the few times on the album the outro actually works with the song and doesn't sound slapped on after all other ideas have been exhausted, which causes the outros to be a bit forced and elongated.
Soon Comes Tomorrow was a bit disappointing for me. Maybe I hyped it up too much in my mind. It's still good, really like the solo (finally get a great solo from Beady Eye), but I also feel it's too plodding and a tad bit too slow, especially after 5 minutes. Not great, but still good. Start Anew is also a good track. The ending didn't do as much for me as with others. I think Liam's vocal on it is great, but other than the drums kicking in and his vocals, this track doesn't have much.
Just not a big fan of Iz Rite. It has a nice summery vibe, but the actual song is only okay. I'm Just Saying overstays its welcome, even at just under 4 minutes. I do like the Underneath the Sky vibe it has in the solo, but that's about it. The 1,2,3, is poor at best. Every time I listen Don't Brother Me the less I like it. For me, the acoustic first half and Sitek's additional outro doesn't work well. I thought the transition between the two could have been better. Also, the outro goes on for probably a minute too long. I get trying to make the album more mood based and atmospheric, but I thought it could have been scaled back a tad here. I really love the intro for Shine A Light, but the song is just okay. Goes on for too long. Just a bit too repetitive. The "solo" wasn't needed and didn't add anything. I've been getting a Steppenwolf feel from this, that is the solo. Has anyone else? Would have liked it more without the solo and instead just having the middle 8.
Ballroom Figured is one of my least favorite songs. A good start to a melody, but stretched out. Also, dislike the muffled effect on Liam's vocals at the end of the song. Not a big fan of the middle middle 8 either. I do like the "cold light of day" line. Great imagery. Second Bite of the Apple, enough has been said of this song. Face the Crowd just shouldn't be on here. Just sounds like it was put on to balance out the mix of uptempo tracks. And the solo is useless. Just adds on another minute that's not needed.
Overall it's definitely a strong album. Nice soundscapes, though I think some are taken to an extreme, specifically the outros. I think this album is better than DGSS, but not by miles. I think the significant difference between this and DGSS is that it will age a bit more gracefully. There are still clunkers, but some good tracks. I wouldn't call any track on here great or amazing, but there are definitely some good ones. Also, I think Beady Eye should steer away from trying to make the typical big singles. I just don't think they're a big singles type of band, and a band shouldn't have to do something they're not particular comfortable or good with. It's unfair to them and creates moments for fans to be overly critical of them. I think in the long run they may be better off trying to just make stronger albums. For me this album is solid, but not great. I think their worst moments are when they're forcing rockers and big ballads on here. I think if they curtail the outros a bit and switch out the forced songs with songs that will make the album stronger, they'll be better off.
I believe Beady Eye's survival will hinge on them just making very good albums, forget templates and trying to put rockers on when they don't fit or "stadium" type songs that they're not good at writing anyways, and let the singles fall where they may. So write better songs that are more in their comfort zones (the songs on BE are particular strong as a whole)and then push their limits. With better songs, the farther they'll be able to push their sound. They won't chart high with singles, but they'll have more interesting albums that will continue to sell as slow burners, age better, and pick-up new fans. Hopefully we get a third album and the collections of songs are much stronger than here with basically the same treatment.
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Post by gefe on May 31, 2013 2:01:44 GMT -5
Makes DGSS look like a better album, which is not a good thing WHAT!!!!!! Seriously??? No way Jose!!! Seriously mate, this album is worse than DGSS in my opinion, makes me appreciate more their first record which i only like around 3, maybe 4 tracks Ay caramba!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 2:37:59 GMT -5
It would be a worthy successor to dm and mg to be honest. Be Here Now wasn't a worthy successor to those two albums. And BE is no Be Here Now.
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