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Post by olesiadudnik on May 8, 2013 15:39:11 GMT -5
what i really don't understand is the fact, that Noel Gallaghar's High Flying Birsd, sounds pretty retro too, but no one is complaining.
"Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks", "Dream on" sounds like THe Kinks, with a bit poppier production. People are moaning about vocals on liams voice on DGSS, what about the cringeworthy vocal sounds on some songs on HFB? at the end if you listen to both albums, you could mix them up, like a few people did, with making an unofficial Oasis record, and you will see, that they are not that different. Both have great moments (Four Letter Word & Everybody's on the Run), dull moments (standing on the edge of the noise & Dream on (IMO)), production that ruined the sound of some tunes (Wigwam (although i love it) & Stop the clocks (love the demo, hate the album), overblown songs (the beat goes on & record machine). Noel is pretty vintage and safe too. if that is a critisiscm for Liam than i don't get why Noel's record is taken as a reference for a good sounding album. I think you should check out the threads with people asking about Nole making his AA album and the choice of Sardy to head his next album. There has clearly been an outcry for Noel to advance his sound. So I don't see where the complaint is. Secondly, I think Noel's songwriting is better and at time can withstand not having a non-retro sound. Whereas, in my opinion, Beady Eye's songwriting is weaker and more susceptibility to the complaint of the overly retro sound. I think there's enough of a swath of the fanbase that wants Noel to take his good songwriting and really push the sound. So as I said, I don't get the no one is complaining piece of your argument. Make sure that when using such high-minded words-- like "susceptibility" and "swath"-- in low-minded areas, try to use them in the right context; otherwise you would only confuse them further. |
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Post by cloudburster on May 8, 2013 16:05:21 GMT -5
Kalas' idea of Liam working with other artists instead is an intriguing one. Having an album of songs written for him to sing like the Scorpio Rising collab, Paul Weller, Johnny Marr etc with a couple of his own thrown in. Would've lost the tag of 'Oasis without Noel' or the 'Oasis cover band.' Don't think he'd have enjoyed it much though, would've been fascinating to hear his voice on album of songs written by other people though.
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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on May 8, 2013 16:06:16 GMT -5
The main problem with Beady Eye is...
... Andy Bell.
FACT.
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Post by cloudburster on May 8, 2013 16:11:23 GMT -5
The main problem with Beady Eye is... ... Andy Bell. FACT. Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 8, 2013 16:13:11 GMT -5
I liked Beady Eye better when Noel was still in the band.  Ha! Another blinder. It's a shame, you are ONLY my 3rd favorite Troll. Keep trying. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:16:41 GMT -5
Kalas' idea of Liam working with other artists instead is an intriguing one. Having an album of songs written for him to sing like the Scorpio Rising collab, Paul Weller, Johnny Marr etc with a couple of his own thrown in. Would've lost the tag of 'Oasis without Noel' or the 'Oasis cover band.' Don't think he'd have enjoyed it much though, would've been fascinating to hear his voice on album of songs written by other people though. Thanks man ..I am pretty known here for needing a translator cause I tend to type like I am in a bar with my friends who know me and can no translation needed , lol ... While that is a real good idea ..what I meant to say , and am sorry for the confusion it's my bad , Is that had Liam started a new band ( because he seems to love the idea of ring in a band Much like jimmy page did when he formed " the firm " it had no ex zep members or Say ozzy after sabbath he played with totally different musicians and you could not label it sabbath or zep , it had its own identity good or bad ..so lovers of the old band would not be like there's my band with no Noel. Or plant or tony iommi for the other guys. Ya know. Less comparing sorta like don't date lookalike after you been with a girl for a few years and have your friends and family always be reminded of the old girl ya know ? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:17:26 GMT -5
Kalas' idea of Liam working with other artists instead is an intriguing one. Having an album of songs written for him to sing like the Scorpio Rising collab, Paul Weller, Johnny Marr etc with a couple of his own thrown in. Would've lost the tag of 'Oasis without Noel' or the 'Oasis cover band.' Don't think he'd have enjoyed it much though, would've been fascinating to hear his voice on album of songs written by other people though. Hell yeh, nice one kalas  I'd love to see Liam doing a song with the Modfather (apart from vocals on Carnation obviously) Weller's a legendary songwriter obviously can write some nice guitar tunes which Liam voice and style of singing always sounds great on and Weller has a talent for writing quality ballads as well. I think their voices would sound great together harmonising as well... |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:23:00 GMT -5
The main problem with Beady Eye is... ... Andy Bell. FACT. Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface Leave him man, he's a total tool and I know it's hard resisting replying him but maybe he'll go away if we all ignore his cries for attention... |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 8, 2013 16:24:34 GMT -5
You can put Liam's voice over mostly anything and he can make it at least 50% cooler instantly, and that's FACT.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:25:15 GMT -5
Kalas' idea of Liam working with other artists instead is an intriguing one. Having an album of songs written for him to sing like the Scorpio Rising collab, Paul Weller, Johnny Marr etc with a couple of his own thrown in. Would've lost the tag of 'Oasis without Noel' or the 'Oasis cover band.' Don't think he'd have enjoyed it much though, would've been fascinating to hear his voice on album of songs written by other people though. Hell yeh, nice one kalas I'd love to see Liam doing a song with the Modfather (apart from vocals on Carnation obviously) Weller's a legendary songwriter obviously can write some nice guitar tunes which Liam voice and style of singing always sounds great on and Weller has a talent for writing quality ballads as well. I think their voices would sound great together harmonising as well... Thanks mate but as I am sure you read above , I didn't quite mean that ,  Lennon2217 knows sometimes I swear I'm typing one thing but it comes out in German on the mother side . It's a good idea but I meant a band devoid of any oasis influence. But a proper band |
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Post by olesiadudnik on May 8, 2013 16:28:29 GMT -5
It's a shame, you are ONLY my 3rd favorite Troll. Keep trying. Didn’t know you kept a running list, as the prioritizing of your non-trolling quips. But, hey, I'm sure you know much more about the art of trolling than I do-- if only I could be judged up by such grown up standards, then I too may aspire to place higher. |
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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on May 8, 2013 16:34:41 GMT -5
The main problem with Beady Eye is... ... Andy Bell. FACT. Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface Has the personality of a lemon. Doesn't move outside a 12" radius of his mic. Wrote the shittest song on HC - AQP, the shittest on DBTT - KTDA, and the shittest Oasis song in living memory on DOYS which was TNOR. Wrote the shittest song on DGSS -Millionaire. And is about as interesting as a fart in an elevator. |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 8, 2013 16:42:06 GMT -5
Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface Has the personality of a lemon. Doesn't move outside a 12" radius of his mic. Wrote the shittest song on HC - AQP, the shittest on DBTT - KTDA, and the shittest Oasis song in living memory on DOYS which was TNOR. Wrote the shittest song on DGSS -Millionaire. And is about as interesting as a fart in an elevator. That last bit sounds like you, not him |
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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on May 8, 2013 16:43:41 GMT -5
Has the personality of a lemon. Doesn't move outside a 12" radius of his mic. Wrote the shittest song on HC - AQP, the shittest on DBTT - KTDA, and the shittest Oasis song in living memory on DOYS which was TNOR. Wrote the shittest song on DGSS -Millionaire. And is about as interesting as a fart in an elevator. That last bit sounds like you, not him I'm glad you agree with the rest of my facts |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:47:29 GMT -5
As long as I enjoy it...
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Post by jordan71421 on May 8, 2013 16:50:29 GMT -5
This should end this debate right now. AMEN! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 8, 2013 17:41:44 GMT -5
It's a shame, you are ONLY my 3rd favorite Troll. Keep trying. Didn’t know you kept a running list, as the prioritizing of your non-trolling quips. But, hey, I'm sure you know much more about the art of trolling than I do-- if only I could be judged up by such grown up standards, then I too may aspire to place higher. You've now fallen to the 5th best troll. You are slipping fast. Better up your Troll game or return to the Nickelback forum. |
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Post by shoes222 on May 8, 2013 17:44:59 GMT -5
To reiterate, this thread is not about the hardcore BE fans. They will like whatever these guys put out no matter what. It's for perspective about the band outside of the hardcore Oasis base.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 8, 2013 17:50:22 GMT -5
Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface Has the personality of a lemon. Doesn't move outside a 12" radius of his mic. Wrote the shittest song on HC - AQP, the shittest on DBTT - KTDA, and the shittest Oasis song in living memory on DOYS which was TNOR. Wrote the shittest song on DGSS -Millionaire. And is about as interesting as a fart in an elevator. well..... that's just like ... your opinion man.... (going to hear Keep the dream alive, which is one of my most loved oasis tunes, because of the great reverb guitar bendings at the end.... :3 .... <3 ) |
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Post by jordan71421 on May 8, 2013 17:51:40 GMT -5
To reiterate, this thread is not about the hardcore BE fans. They will like whatever these guys put out no matter what. It's for perspective about the band outside of the hardcore Oasis base. Who cares what they think? I for one don't, they can think whatever they want. All I know is, whenever I hear Noel or Liam is making new music, I get excited, and that's all that should matter to the fans. |
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Post by cloudburster on May 8, 2013 18:01:28 GMT -5
Hell yeh, nice one kalas I'd love to see Liam doing a song with the Modfather (apart from vocals on Carnation obviously) Weller's a legendary songwriter obviously can write some nice guitar tunes which Liam voice and style of singing always sounds great on and Weller has a talent for writing quality ballads as well. I think their voices would sound great together harmonising as well... Thanks mate but as I am sure you read above , I didn't quite mean that , Lennon2217 knows sometimes I swear I'm typing one thing but it comes out in German on the mother side . It's a good idea but I meant a band devoid of any oasis influence. But a proper band Like NGHFB but with actual contributions from other members? I like that idea too  |
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Post by cloudburster on May 8, 2013 18:02:53 GMT -5
Wrote the strongest song on the last album, one of the best on DBTT, you're a fannyface Has the personality of a lemon. Doesn't move outside a 12" radius of his mic. Wrote the shittest song on HC - AQP, the shittest on DBTT - KTDA, and the shittest Oasis song in living memory on DOYS which was TNOR. Wrote the shittest song on DGSS -Millionaire. And is about as interesting as a fart in an elevator. Yes. You shush now |
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Post by shoes222 on May 8, 2013 18:13:10 GMT -5
To reiterate, this thread is not about the hardcore BE fans. They will like whatever these guys put out no matter what. It's for perspective about the band outside of the hardcore Oasis base. Who cares what they think? I for one don't, they can think whatever they want. All I know is, whenever I hear Noel or Liam is making new music, I get excited, and that's all that should matter to the fans. You're free to enjoy the music, I'm not telling you not to. But this isn't the thread for you, then. This is a thread specifically ABOUT Beady Eye's widespread appeal, or lack thereof. If this is a record that only appeals to existing Oasis/Liam fans, I want to be able to discuss WHY that is. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 8, 2013 18:16:21 GMT -5
To reiterate, this thread is not about the hardcore BE fans. They will like whatever these guys put out no matter what. It's for perspective about the band outside of the hardcore Oasis base. Firstly, do you actually realise what website you are on? Only an idiot would a expect a 'perspective about the band outside of the hardcore Oasis base' on a Oasis website. Christ... Secondly, I take it you mean anyone who disagree's with you is a hardcore BE fan? I think the first album is patchy but enjoyable and I disagree with you. Am I allowed to give perspective? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 18:27:06 GMT -5
Thanks mate but as I am sure you read above , I didn't quite mean that , Lennon2217 knows sometimes I swear I'm typing one thing but it comes out in German on the mother side . It's a good idea but I meant a band devoid of any oasis influence. But a proper band Like NGHFB but with actual contributions from other members? I like that idea too Yea sorry cloudburster I tend to type as if my friends are here and know my shorthand ... But that's about it ..and I'm not" team anyone "honestly both initial efforts Left me wanting ... But Liam with all the oasis faces I believe will be looked at as the flag bearer for the band rightly or not because let's face it look at the videos go see them live its right in your face , you just beg to ask where's Noel ? But on Noel's stuff with no faces unless gem or Andy make a appearance you can distance yourself from oasis a bit. Much the way you could on morrissey or weller projects sans there bands |
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