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Post by gdforever on Apr 20, 2013 13:17:59 GMT -5
Not looking good for BDI's chances judging by the preorder charts.
Still a lot of time for the boys to really push it though. They've only got a quasi-single out right now.
On the bright side FOTF has been play listed by XFM
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Post by matt on Apr 21, 2013 21:30:26 GMT -5
Who cares, The Smiths only scored a number one with just one of their four studio albums (and no, it wasn't The Queen Is Dead), hardly diminishes those albums.
To be brutally honest, if Beady Eye don't get anywhere near the number one spot, then it will be because of that first album.
I realise this new album might be something a lot more special, so if Dave Sitek has got them to a good place then that's all that matters. Liam Gallagher will always be box office material so he'll always garner attention, so to do it with a very good album as opposed to mouthing praise about an average album will set them in good stead in the future whatever the albums chart position.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Apr 21, 2013 23:26:26 GMT -5
New Sabbath single is pretty good. I like it a lot more than FOTF. Can't imagine Liam sounding this good at 64.
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Post by redlandsman87 on Apr 21, 2013 23:28:07 GMT -5
Fuck the police!
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Post by thomas09 on Apr 22, 2013 3:35:52 GMT -5
New Sabbath single is pretty good. I like it a lot more than FOTF. Can't imagine Liam sounding this good at 64. Ozzy sounds absolutely terrible these days! Don't let the autotune fool you. |
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Post by cloudburster on Apr 22, 2013 7:02:04 GMT -5
The single charts and the album charts are completely different if you just take a look at them every now and then. Rock/indie bands such as Kasabian, Arctic Monkeys, etc regularly score #1 albums with their singles barely scraping the top 30. Hell, Bring Me The Horizon recently got to #3 in the album charts, and they are about as un-commmercial as it gets. On the other hand, you'll get novelty shite getting #1 regularly but their albums often don't make a dent in the charts. Justin Bieber's last album only went Gold in the UK (same as Beady Eye). The singles charts are important to the pop acts and are less important to the rock acts, and vice versa. Broadly speaking.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 22, 2013 7:17:43 GMT -5
New Sabbath single is pretty good. I like it a lot more than FOTF. Can't imagine Liam sounding this good at 64. Ozzy sounds absolutely terrible these days! Don't let the autotune fool you. Because there was no autotune on DGSS. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 12:56:05 GMT -5
New Sabbath single is pretty good. I like it a lot more than FOTF. Can't imagine Liam sounding this good at 64. Ozzy sounds absolutely terrible these days! Don't let the autotune fool you. Yeh just listened to some of it now... quite a lot of auto tune there... |
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Post by space75gr on Apr 23, 2013 6:29:36 GMT -5
it's about music and not about chart positions or sales BUT in the case of Beady Eye and Liam Gallagher we have to admit that we also want not only a very good album but also a #1 album (i suppose).
i think it's hard for Beady Eye to beat Black Sabbath's new release.
in UK metal/hard rock music have a very strong fanbase. A new BS album is a big deal and many people are gonna buy it even if they are not into metal.new BS album means big news.
The facts so far show that people care more about BS new album than BE.
In youtube BS's new single has almost 800.000 views in 4 days and FOTF 150.000.
Preorders show BS's album higher than BE's album.
in music forums people show no interest to say something/anything about Beady eye...
the press is gonna be good for both bands and we are gonna see beady eye everywhere but thats not enough.
Beady Eye have their fanbase.i m not sure if Noelboys are gonna follow...if you know what i mean.
these days many good rock/indie bands hardly make it with their new albums in the top 10 (the strokes was a disaster, YYYs etc)
Beady Eye need promo and i suppose the only way for a good promo is a single that will make people to pay attention to them and buy their album. a single not for the oasis fans but a good single for indie/rock fans with an appeal to the rest.and they need airplay, they need people to hear their new track.Noel made it cause "what a life" was a hit (even not a big one) but helped the album to stay in the charts, made people to pay, not only oasis fans. Beady Eye need a single to stay in the charts for a few weeks.that will make the difference in my opinion for a good chart run.
i hope i m wrong and i m gonna wait to hear the "first" official single by Beady Eye and the reactions... i know its gonna be great but that's not enough these days for Beady Eye for a #1 album (i suppose...)
btw, dont forget Kodaline (i already hate that name!!!)
anyway!i love Beady Eye, I love DGSS and i cant wait to buy and hear BE.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Apr 23, 2013 7:10:35 GMT -5
There's more talent on the tips of Tony Iommi's middle and ring finger on his right hand than the entire band of Beady Eye combined.
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Post by gaspanic23 on Apr 23, 2013 8:14:30 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to compare Youtube views. BS' single came out of nowhere while Beady Eye's been doing the rounds for about a week before they posted it there. Having said that, I don't think they'll reach #1 I'm afraid.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 23, 2013 10:24:28 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to compare Youtube views. BS' single came out of nowhere while Beady Eye's been doing the rounds for about a week before they posted it there. Having said that, I don't think they'll reach #1 I'm afraid. True. Black Sabbath has been far above them in preorder charts so far. It would take a game changer of a single to turn it around. |
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Post by ruchin on Apr 23, 2013 14:48:24 GMT -5
Presumably with the signed CD and the gig tickets thing, the majority of BE preorders would be on the official website, whereas, i am assuming Black Sabbath weren't offering.
I still don't think it will go number 1 though, merely because of the negativity DGSS received post NGHFB release.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2013 16:41:05 GMT -5
Seriously, how is anyone still holding out hope that Beady Eye will be a commercial success? They are less popular now than they were when DG,SS was released, and that wasn't even very popular. Commercially, it's over. Enjoy Liam Gallagher in small venues without the vaginas who only want to hear songs from Morning Glory.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Apr 24, 2013 1:21:05 GMT -5
There is absolutely no chance that Beady Eye will come close to Sabbath's #'s. Sabbath's fan base is far more reaching because of how long they've been around + its their first record with Ozzy in 30+ years + its already getting a massive buzz b/c of the strong first single.
It doesn't matter who you think is better, there's just no chance for Beady Eye against this release.
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Post by GIMH on Apr 24, 2013 3:07:53 GMT -5
An Oasis album would trump Sabbath but I severely doubt either Gallagher without the other could outsell such a reunion.
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Post by redlandsman87 on Apr 24, 2013 3:13:55 GMT -5
I love Ozzy. Don't get me wrong, dude IS Rock 'n' roll embodied. But, I'm not at all impressed with the "single" they've released. It's Ozzy/Sabbath by numbers. That's it. And the chorus is simply a dead ringer, just a repeat of "No More Tears". Nine minutes long? With a two minute introduction? Bands like 'Tallica can pull that off, sure. Zeppelin too. But this ain't a Stairway to Heaven. Youtube and Itunes have of course changed the dynamic of what a single could be...but in radio, time is everything. Every second counts. Ozzy and Sabbath are LEGENDS...but this is being sold on the strength of the Sabbath Name and Ozzy's alone. Not because it's necessarily a "great" single.
Neither is FOTF, frankly. Neither singles are radio friendly...don't expect to hear too much of either of them after the initial buzz, I'd say.
The problem is, Beady Eye don't have the nearly 40+ year influence on hard rock that Ozzy or Sab does. It's a dead end for BE. They might crack the top 5, MAYBE #2 if they are lucky. But sorry Liam, Ozzy has got you on this one...but if I were Liam, I'd be HONORED to be beaten by Black Sabbath.
If it were OASIS vs Black Sabbath? Different story. But it's not.
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Post by thomas09 on Apr 24, 2013 3:27:36 GMT -5
Ozzy sounds absolutely terrible these days! Don't let the autotune fool you. Because there was no autotune on DGSS. Because there's no autotune on the new album. |
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Post by Ash & Debris on Apr 24, 2013 3:40:27 GMT -5
I think it's a pretty strong comeback single. I'm glad it's 9 minutes long, clearly shows they don't give 2 crap about chart success or accessibility and are strictly in it for the love of the music.
Rumors are circulating that Eminem might drop his record in June too. If he does, neither Sabbath or BDI have a chance lol. Isn't he like second behind The Beatles only in consecutive #1 albums in UK with like 6 or 7?
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Post by GIMH on Apr 24, 2013 4:27:09 GMT -5
Oasis had seven unless you count the compilations
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Post by redlandsman87 on Apr 24, 2013 4:29:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying it's a bad song, nor do I believe they are in it for the chart position. But the same can be said for Beady Eye, y'know?
Yeah, Eminem will pretty much knock the shit out of anything released chart wise, sad but true. Sabbath would give a good run against him, seeing as they have years and years of diehards, but they wouldn't beat him. Being the best selling artist of the decade (the 00's) selling god knows how many millions...he will blow anything near him out of the water.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 24, 2013 4:40:23 GMT -5
don't really care. love both bands but i have to say, as i'm still listening to "Flick of the Finger" everyday a few times, i love the dircetion the band is going, and i don't care if they have Big radio success. i just want them to be a cool rockband, with a unique sound. Different Gear, Still Speeding was written with Radio Chorus (Kill for a dream, Beat goes on ect.) but this one is great stuff. i will wish them all luck but i will enjoy it, even if it is not successful.
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Post by cloudburster on Apr 24, 2013 5:45:18 GMT -5
I think it's a pretty strong comeback single. I'm glad it's 9 minutes long, clearly shows they don't give 2 crap about chart success or accessibility and are strictly in it for the love of the music. Rumors are circulating that Eminem might drop his record in June too. If he does, neither Sabbath or BDI have a chance lol. Isn't he like second behind The Beatles only in consecutive #1 albums in UK with like 6 or 7? Highest selling artist of the 21st century. In the UK he generally sells upward of 150 000 in his first week I believe, so yeah, BDI won't have a chance if he does |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 24, 2013 5:45:21 GMT -5
Because there was no autotune on DGSS. Because there's no autotune on the new album. You're saying that after hearing one song with fuck all singing in it? I'll wait for the record before I comment on vocal effects thank you. |
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Post by cloudburster on Apr 24, 2013 5:47:17 GMT -5
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