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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:12:27 GMT -5
Easily two of Noel's worst songs. Always skip the two of 'em. Shouldn't have made it to the album, I think.
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Post by manicsfan on Feb 23, 2013 10:17:37 GMT -5
I adore the demo's from the Oasis days but the HFB album versions are terrible.
I cringe when I hear Noels vocal on Stop The Clocks.
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Post by antwerp on Feb 23, 2013 10:17:53 GMT -5
100% agree
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Post by jordan71421 on Feb 23, 2013 10:20:45 GMT -5
I think I'm in the minority when I say I like the album versions better, especially Record Machine
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 23, 2013 10:26:34 GMT -5
Record machine HFB's version is far superior to the demo version.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 10:31:05 GMT -5
I don't dig the recording of Stop The Clocks on HFB. The demo had more charm. I'd have much preferred the album end with A Simple Game of Genius. A song in this demeanor was lacking on HFB. I also think Stop The Clock maybe should have been a hidden track at the end.
As far as record machine goes:
"It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles, it's 10 minutes long with loads of guitar solos!"
* Yeah.....that never happened!
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Post by LlAM on Feb 23, 2013 10:42:45 GMT -5
Record Machine was amazing live.
The album version is quite dull though.
He never nailed Stop The Clocks. He should've kept the production more raw, in the vein of Looking Glass by the La's and he definitely should've scrapped that annoying "sound" line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 10:49:03 GMT -5
Both bore me  |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 11:22:42 GMT -5
i really like "Record Machine" as a song, but the production is just too overblown, a bit stripped down, but a bit fuller, than the oasis version would have been great.
stop the clocks should have been like the demo, just better produced, but i cringe when i hear his voice and those keyboar-pop sounding shit. loved the demo, listend to it at least 300 times, but i only listend i think 5 times, to the studio version.
like someone said above me, the album should have ended with "a simple game of genius", which is just incredible!
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 23, 2013 11:24:15 GMT -5
I have always loved Stop The Clocks even with all those poor vocals and production. There's a unique feel to it that other songs just can't regenerate in me. I read in an interview that the inspiration for the song was a dream, maybe that's why I'm the minority here because I believe in dreams to be the coolest (and usually the best) inspirations for songwriting, well at least in my case..
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 11:24:53 GMT -5
i really like "Record Machine" as a song, but the production is just too overblown, a bit stripped down, but a bit fuller, than the oasis version would have been great. stop the clocks should have been like the demo, just better produced, but i cringe when i hear his voice and those keyboar-pop sounding shit. loved the demo, listend to it at least 300 times, but i only listend i think 5 times, to the studio version. like someone said above me, the album should have ended with "a simple game of genius", which is just incredible! Glad I am not the only one who thought the opening mellotron on Stop The Clocks sucked. It sounds too synthetic to my ears. Very thin in sound. I'd rather it have that organic feel like the mellotron on Strawberry Fields. It just speaks volumes that Noel didn't even record it properly and in the wrong key!  |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 11:27:04 GMT -5
i really like "Record Machine" as a song, but the production is just too overblown, a bit stripped down, but a bit fuller, than the oasis version would have been great. stop the clocks should have been like the demo, just better produced, but i cringe when i hear his voice and those keyboar-pop sounding shit. loved the demo, listend to it at least 300 times, but i only listend i think 5 times, to the studio version. like someone said above me, the album should have ended with "a simple game of genius", which is just incredible! Glad I am not the only one who thought the opening mellotron on Stop The Clocks sucked. It sounds too synthetic to my ears. Very thin in sound. I'd rather it have that organic feel like the mellotron on Strawberry Fields. It just speaks volumes that Noel didn't even record it properly and in the wrong key! fuck i don't even believe, that this "gayboard" is a mellotron! if this is true, this song puts mellotrons to shame! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 11:31:46 GMT -5
I don't dig the recording of Stop The Clocks on HFB. The demo had more charm. I'd have much preferred the album end with A Simple Game of Genius. A song in this demeanor was lacking on HFB. I also think Stop The Clock maybe should have been a hidden track at the end. As far as record machine goes: "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles, it's 10 minutes long with loads of guitar solos!"
* Yeah.....that never happened! I think the problem with stop the clocks is he went on about it for so fucking long we all expected a masterpiece and got a good tune but nowhere near the expectations we had over the years because of the way Noel touted it |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 11:36:31 GMT -5
I don't dig the recording of Stop The Clocks on HFB. The demo had more charm. I'd have much preferred the album end with A Simple Game of Genius. A song in this demeanor was lacking on HFB. I also think Stop The Clock maybe should have been a hidden track at the end. As far as record machine goes: "It's like Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles, it's 10 minutes long with loads of guitar solos!"
* Yeah.....that never happened! I think the problem with stop the clocks is he went on about it for so fucking long we all expected a masterpiece and got a good tune but nowhere near the expectations we had over the years because of the way Noel touted it i really think that most of the people would have been happy with a similar version to the demo... yes some would have moaned "too same", "Boring!" and other stuff, but it would be more of a joy to listen to it. but yeah, some people sure like this version. but i really want to facepalm in front of noel, while listening to it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 11:39:29 GMT -5
I think the problem with stop the clocks is he went on about it for so fucking long we all expected a masterpiece and got a good tune but nowhere near the expectations we had over the years because of the way Noel touted it i really think that most of the people would have been happy with a similar version to the demo... yes some would have moaned "too same", "Boring!" and other stuff, but it would be more of a joy to listen to it. but yeah, some people sure like this version. but i really want to facepalm in front of noel, while listening to it. I agree Ii prefer the demo as well and all the expectations I like many had were dashed when it came out on vinyl ,sorry cd you know what I mean,lol |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 11:39:45 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 11:41:23 GMT -5
i really think that most of the people would have been happy with a similar version to the demo... yes some would have moaned "too same", "Boring!" and other stuff, but it would be more of a joy to listen to it. but yeah, some people sure like this version. but i really want to facepalm in front of noel, while listening to it. I agree Ii prefer the demo as well and all the expectations I like many had were dashed when it came out on vinyl ,sorry cd you know what I mean,lol i know what you mean^^ own it in both versions. listening to it, right now, because i want to know if i might changed my mind about it, but first i enjoy "broken arrow" and "stranded on the wrong beach" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 11:45:55 GMT -5
I agree Ii prefer the demo as well and all the expectations I like many had were dashed when it came out on vinyl ,sorry cd you know what I mean,lol i know what you mean^^ own it in both versions. listening to it, right now, because i want to know if i might changed my mind about it, but first i enjoy "broken arrow" and "stranded on the wrong beach" I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 23, 2013 11:55:10 GMT -5
i know what you mean^^ own it in both versions. listening to it, right now, because i want to know if i might changed my mind about it, but first i enjoy "broken arrow" and "stranded on the wrong beach" I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo What bar was this? Sounds bitching. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 12:00:42 GMT -5
I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo It was its called down the hatch in thill age eff seventh avenue like 4th street big place tons of NYC girls hope it's still there I bartended there for years very cool that guy was cool but chicks were unreal still will be if its there check it out dude I know your engaged but we can still look  What bar was this? Sounds bitching. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Feb 23, 2013 12:02:49 GMT -5
I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo What bar was this? Sounds bitching. i'm just kidding, kalas! God bless. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 12:03:20 GMT -5
Lennon I fucked up my reply is inside your quote read it bar was down the hatch ....villiage off seventh ave like by 4 th street bitching bar if still there
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 23, 2013 12:03:51 GMT -5
i know what you mean^^ own it in both versions. listening to it, right now, because i want to know if i might changed my mind about it, but first i enjoy "broken arrow" and "stranded on the wrong beach" I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo i would love to get a listen! i have to say that Liams voice makes Lyla for me, but the raw productions sounds interesting! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 12:07:04 GMT -5
What bar was this? Sounds bitching. i'm just kidding, kalas! God bless. Lol love it . Despite what happened i don't get mad anymore only that guy pissed me off and I'm done with that and as Seinfeld said when talking about gays " not that there's anything wrong with that". To each his own I prefer woman and guess what the more gays the less competition not anymore for me but you know what I mean......ps seriously i like the jokes that was the only time since I returned I got pissed and it ain't worth it I just ignore who I want and they can do the same I ain't losing any sleep over how I am judged on here trust me It's all good my friend |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 12:08:56 GMT -5
I hear ya years ago when I was in NYC bartending there was this sound guy who drank at my bar he played me 4 demos of if dbtt cause he knew what a fan I was. Lyla sounded awesome without all the production Little by little by was acoustic it was real cool to hear the difference from the final result ....as you I liked all demos and final cut but I must say I like lyla better on the demo i would love to get a listen! i have to say that Liams voice makes Lyla for me, but the raw productions sounds interesting! It was mate I don't have them this was years ago he just played them for me while I was closing bar as a surprise needless to say his tab was covered he was a engineer at some studio he had a pic with Noel not Liam though |
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