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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2013 20:24:49 GMT -5
I'll start off by saying I prefer the Stop The Clocks DBTT era demo over the finished product album version. Sounds more organic to my ears. Less produced....a good thing. I even like the acoustic version from the Blu Ray bonus disc over the album version. To me Stop The Clocks and Sunday Morning Call suffered a similar fate. Both sound like they should be these big epic songs but nothing really happens during the course of either one of them to make you say, "wow....that's really great!". I think they both might feature the fake choirs (Enough already please). It is lame! Both are way too over produced and should have been a lot shorter. The lyrics for both songs are too repetitive. And just like Sunday Morning Call, Noel can't stand Stop The Clocks anymore either.
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Post by sebi.white on Feb 28, 2013 3:14:05 GMT -5
... oh my god?
I ALWAYS skip them. They're good, but I just can't be bothered. Straight onto A Simple Game Of Genius after Wrong Beach.
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Post by eva on Feb 28, 2013 7:06:01 GMT -5
I always skip them as well. I like RM but I'm just tired of it. The album version of Stop The Clocks is a total mess. The only good thing about this song was the solo at the end (after that annoying "sound, sound, sound...") and it's ruined
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 8:44:00 GMT -5
Interesting how a thread called "Stop the Clocks and Record Machine are shite" hasn't turned into a shit throwing festival.
Try something similar on the Beady Eye section, see how that works out.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2013 9:14:46 GMT -5
Interesting how a thread called "Stop the Clocks and Record Machine are shite" hasn't turned into a shit throwing festival. Try something similar on the Beady Eye section, see how that works out. Don't feed the animals @epiphone100.
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Post by Bruno on Feb 28, 2013 9:17:28 GMT -5
Interesting how a thread called "Stop the Clocks and Record Machine are shite" hasn't turned into a shit throwing festival. Try something similar on the Beady Eye section, see how that works out.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 28, 2013 14:25:46 GMT -5
Maybe I'm the only one but I really like Record Machine's album version,I don't like Stop the Clocks (All the version of this song),the solo is good,but the song... I think A Simple game of genius > Stop the clocks Let the Lord shine a light on me > Soldier boys ecc...
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Post by thefitnesskid1 on Feb 28, 2013 15:05:41 GMT -5
I completely understand where your coming from with that, I'm just saying that I would have preferred two more original songs (The Good Rebel ugh.... Should have taken whatever flashdrive that was on and cast it into the ocean.) I listen more to the NGHFB album than I do the Beady Eye record. I love the constancy of Noel's tracks and the general mood where as Team Liam was a bit hit and miss or all rather enjoyable tracks for a debut album from a new band, whatever way you look at it. I just thought we would get another "The Boy With The Blues" or a coffee shop jam like "The Nature Of Reality" ya know? I just thought when I saw Record Machine and Stop The Clocks I was like "Really....." I was just trying to be optimistic about my boys and expected I don't know what from them ya know? Maybe when Noel makes a new album in the next three years we'll get another great album. Anyway I am looking forward to the Beady Eye Record! That's a new ones...I never considered "The Nature of Reality" to be a coffee shop jam. Must be some bitchin coffee shops in your neck of the woods. Nah not many at all man, the songs played over the P.A. system are usually from a top 40 station or from someone's iPhone or touch or something but occasionally I get that guy who's into The Strokes or something and he plays something great so it's rare to get a positive groove out in the public here in the States. When you listen to The Nature of Reality don't you think of coffee with your over indulgent hipster friends? =]
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Post by shoes222 on Feb 28, 2013 18:43:40 GMT -5
I prefer this remixed demo,with a bit more expansive sound and slightly faster..Although i believe that, since it shares virtually the same verse melody as ASGOG and the latter is a much better song,it should have been replaced by that song. As someone who regularly works with audio and music, I'm mildly offended that you're calling this a 'remix', because that's not what this is. The sound isn't 'more expansive', as someone already stated you just added reverb, sped the track up, and have actually degraded the sound quality by doing both of those things. I don't know why you keep posting these, because it seems like no one appreciates it. Proper remixes take hours of hard work, not two clicks of a button that anyone can do in 10 seconds in Audacity.
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 28, 2013 19:23:06 GMT -5
because you don't have the soul to love doesn't mean you can reach the stars
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Post by NYR on Feb 28, 2013 21:00:16 GMT -5
record machine is my favorite track on the record. am i the only one?
stop the clocks should have stayed unreleased. there was no way the song could have lived up to the hype, and what a surprise--it didn't. should have been a b-side.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2013 23:59:57 GMT -5
That's a new ones...I never considered "The Nature of Reality" to be a coffee shop jam. Must be some bitchin coffee shops in your neck of the woods. Nah not many at all man, the songs played over the P.A. system are usually from a top 40 station or from someone's iPhone or touch or something but occasionally I get that guy who's into The Strokes or something and he plays something great so it's rare to get a positive groove out in the public here in the States. When you listen to The Nature of Reality don't you think of coffee with your over indulgent hipster friends? =] Oasis fans barely listen to The Nature of Reality let alone "Coffee Shop Hipsters". That is as random of tune as you could hear out in public. Tell the guy playing his iPhone to put on DM, Morning Glory or Be Here Now if he is really cool.
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Post by Bruno on Mar 1, 2013 6:53:04 GMT -5
Interesting how a thread called "Stop the Clocks and Record Machine are shite" hasn't turned into a shit throwing festival. Try something similar on the Beady Eye section, see how that works out. The prophecy is coming true master, it is as you had foreseen!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 6:54:34 GMT -5
Easily two of Noel's worst songs. Always skip the two of 'em. Shouldn't have made it to the album, I think. Opinions? I bet you think Standing On The Edge Of The Noise is a hoot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 11:30:46 GMT -5
Easily two of Noel's worst songs. Always skip the two of 'em. Shouldn't have made it to the album, I think. Opinions? I bet you think Standing On The Edge Of The Noise is a hoot I can't tell whether that comment was laden with sarcasm or was simply disparaging. For the record, I'm not a fan of that song either.
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2013 20:16:26 GMT -5
Amazed at the opinion that Stop The Clocks is 'shit'. Even those who say it's not that good.
I for one think it's a brilliant tune. It's a really dreamy song, touching on beautiful with those brilliant harmonies with the female backing vocalist (of which Noel should definitely do much more of). The hushed choir adds to the ambient atmosphere of the tune.
It's not one of his greatest tunes, but it's still very very very good I think. I'm probably aided by the fact that I only became a hardcore Oasis fan in 2007, so didn't have time to build up in my mind what Stop The Clocks would sound like. If Noel had said nothing of the song, opinion of it would have probably been way higher.
Production wise, it's probably the strongest on High Flying Birds. Just surprised that Sardy didn't screw it up, but then again, it was Noel's decision to bring in added expertise like the female vocalist and the choir. A massive step up from the other versions hanging around I think. But no, I will continue to be a staunch defender of Stop The Clocks!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2013 21:43:38 GMT -5
Amazed at the opinion that Stop The Clocks is 'shit'. Even those who say it's not that good. I for one think it's a brilliant tune. It's a really dreamy song, touching on beautiful with those brilliant harmonies with the female backing vocalist (of which Noel should definitely do much more of). The hushed choir adds to the ambient atmosphere of the tune. It's not one of his greatest tunes, but it's still very very very good I think. I'm probably aided by the fact that I only became a hardcore Oasis fan in 2007, so didn't have time to build up in my mind what Stop The Clocks would sound like. If Noel had said nothing of the song, opinion of it would have probably been way higher. Production wise, it's probably the strongest on High Flying Birds. Just surprised that Sardy didn't screw it up, but then again, it was Noel's decision to bring in added expertise like the female vocalist and the choir. A massive step up from the other versions hanging around I think. But no, I will continue to be a staunch defender of Stop The Clocks! If I didn't look in the album liner notes I probably wouldn't know that Beccy Byrne even sang on Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. Unless you have really good headphones on you can barely hear her singing for the most part. Never understood bringing someone in to sing and barely hear them in the end. It's like the choir on The Turning. Turn it up Noel! I'm not sure I can consider Stop The Clocks the strongest track production wise. Noel even said they screwed up recording it and he wasn't happy with the finished product in the end. I think I'd vote for The Death of You and Me or What A Life for best production on a song IMO.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Mar 3, 2013 4:51:26 GMT -5
I'm clearly in a minority here but I think STC and Record Machine are as good as anything on the album. I think it's just the hype that is putting people off. If we'd never heard of these songs before the album people would be raving about both. Imagine if Champagne Supernova had 10 years of hype before we heard it everyone would be moaning that it wasn't good enough and the lyrics are shite etc.
Stop The Clocks is a brilliant song - something of a lament and a bit different for Noel. The lyrics are fantastic.
Record Machine is just epic, great intro, great build up to the solo and then that amazing last chorus / verse whatever you want to call it. It would have been incredible in a stadium with Liam on vocals.
I think Come On Outside / It's Alright will suffer the same fate if Noel ever puts it on an album.
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Post by Bruno on Mar 3, 2013 4:55:14 GMT -5
I'm clearly in a minority here but I think STC and Record Machine are as good as anything on the album. I think it's just the hype that is putting people off. If we'd never heard of these songs before the album people would be raving about both. Imagine if Champagne Supernova had 10 years of hype before we heard it everyone would be moaning that it wasn't good enough and the lyrics are shite etc. Stop The Clocks is a brilliant song - something of a lament and a bit different for Noel. The lyrics are fantastic. Record Machine is just epic, great intro, great build up to the solo and then that amazing last chorus / verse whatever you want to call it. It would have been incredible in a stadium with Liam on vocals. I think Come On Outside / It's Alright will suffer the same fate if Noel ever puts it on an album. Totally agree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 7:04:14 GMT -5
I'm clearly in a minority here but I think STC and Record Machine are as good as anything on the album. I think it's just the hype that is putting people off. If we'd never heard of these songs before the album people would be raving about both. Imagine if Champagne Supernova had 10 years of hype before we heard it everyone would be moaning that it wasn't good enough and the lyrics are shite etc. Stop The Clocks is a brilliant song - something of a lament and a bit different for Noel. The lyrics are fantastic. Record Machine is just epic, great intro, great build up to the solo and then that amazing last chorus / verse whatever you want to call it. It would have been incredible in a stadium with Liam on vocals. I think Come On Outside / It's Alright will suffer the same fate if Noel ever puts it on an album. I would be inclined to entirely disagree. I came later to the party than most, not becoming a true "madferit" Oasis fan until late 2008. I came to both Stop the Clocks and Record Machine having NEVER heard either previously, placing me in the fairly unique position of hearing the finished versions first, then the demos. Knowing nothing of the hype and having not heard the demo's until long after hearing the album versions, I still think they are two of Noel's weakest songs.
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Post by vito81 on Mar 3, 2013 7:06:16 GMT -5
I'm clearly in a minority here but I think STC and Record Machine are as good as anything on the album. I think it's just the hype that is putting people off. If we'd never heard of these songs before the album people would be raving about both. Imagine if Champagne Supernova had 10 years of hype before we heard it everyone would be moaning that it wasn't good enough and the lyrics are shite etc. Stop The Clocks is a brilliant song - something of a lament and a bit different for Noel. The lyrics are fantastic. Record Machine is just epic, great intro, great build up to the solo and then that amazing last chorus / verse whatever you want to call it. It would have been incredible in a stadium with Liam on vocals. I think Come On Outside / It's Alright will suffer the same fate if Noel ever puts it on an album. This. We can close the thread right now.
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