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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 17:43:51 GMT -5
Mocking is a strong word (everyone is entitled to their opinion), it's rather a little tease. And it's not about pro Oasis or pro Radiohead (I made it clear before that I love both bands) but about unobjective sentences. When I read "Radiohead have shit melodies", I wonder if it's trolling or something... You're right. I went back, read the first few pages of the thread. People were honestly saying DOYS was better than In Rainbows. Thats a fucking hoot!  Never been a fan of "In Rainbows", tbh. Reckoner is better than anything from DOYS that's sure. The album is probably better than DOYS but it's far from Radiohead best imo. I'd rank them like that: Ok Computer The Bends Kid A / Amnesiac A Moon Shaped Pool Hail To The Thief In Rainbows King of Limbs Pablo Honey |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2017 17:57:56 GMT -5
You're right. I went back, read the first few pages of the thread. People were honestly saying DOYS was better than In Rainbows. Thats a fucking hoot! Never been a fan of "In Rainbows", tbh. Reckoner is better than anything from DOYS that's sure. The album is probably better than DOYS but it's far from Radiohead best imo. I'd rank them like that: Ok Computer The Bends Kid A / Amnesiac Hail To The Thief In Rainbows King of Limbs Pablo Honey To me In Rainbows is their 4th masterpiece. Kid A Ok Computer The Bends In Rainbows A Moon Shaped Pool Amnesiac Hail To The Thief The King of Limbs Pablo Honey |
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Post by funhouse on Jul 12, 2017 17:59:11 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe OK Computer The Bends Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Kid A What's The Story Morning Glory? In Rainbows Amnesiac Dig Out Your Soul Hail To The Thief Don't Believe The Truth Pablo Honey King of Limbs Heathen Chemistry WTSMG 4th best Oasis album? *screams in horror, falls down stairs* |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 13, 2017 1:34:18 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe OK Computer The Bends Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Kid A What's The Story Morning Glory? In Rainbows Amnesiac Dig Out Your Soul Hail To The Thief Don't Believe The Truth Pablo Honey King of Limbs Heathen Chemistry WTSMG 4th best Oasis album? *screams in horror, falls down stairs* Yeah I've said in numorous threads in here that I just don't 'get it' like most people, I can't deny it has some of the greatest songs on it, but I don't like Roll With It or She's Electric as they're too pop for my taste and Hey Now and Hello are just weak imo, thats 4 songs off a 10 track album I skip, the other 6 are cracking but as albums I prefer the others listed |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 13, 2017 8:41:01 GMT -5
Never been a fan of "In Rainbows", tbh. Reckoner is better than anything from DOYS that's sure. The album is probably better than DOYS but it's far from Radiohead best imo. I'd rank them like that: Ok Computer The Bends Kid A / Amnesiac Hail To The Thief In Rainbows King of Limbs Pablo Honey To me In Rainbows is their 4th masterpiece. Kid A Ok Computer The Bends In Rainbows A Moon Shaped Pool Amnesiac Hail To The Thief The King of Limbs Pablo Honey In Rainbows utterly obliterates Dig Out Your Soul in every way imaginable. One of the best records of the century versus Oasis' second best post-2000 effort.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 11:08:24 GMT -5
I have tried to listen to Radiohead countless times, but I simply can't do it. Something about them doesn't sit well with me. Maybe its Thom's voice, not sure.
Anyone got a simple 8-10 tracks that I should listen to?
(If you include Creep I can't take you seriously. That might make my worst 5 songs of all time.)
Because I'm not going to dive into albums without a proper vetting.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 13, 2017 11:36:10 GMT -5
I have tried to listen to Radiohead countless times, but I simply can't do it. Something about them doesn't sit well with me. Maybe its Thom's voice, not sure. Anyone got a simple 8-10 tracks that I should listen to? (If you include Creep I can't take you seriously. That might make my worst 5 songs of all time.) Because I'm not going to dive into albums without a proper vetting. One song per album Pop Is dead(lol don't listen To this 😂) Fake Plástic Trees Exit music(for a film) Idioteque Pyramid Song Sail to the moon Nude Lotus Flower Desert Island Disk |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2017 11:39:37 GMT -5
I have tried to listen to Radiohead countless times, but I simply can't do it. Something about them doesn't sit well with me. Maybe its Thom's voice, not sure. Anyone got a simple 8-10 tracks that I should listen to? (If you include Creep I can't take you seriously. That might make my worst 5 songs of all time.) Because I'm not going to dive into albums without a proper vetting. I'll bring you in slowly. I'll be your huckleberry. 1. High & Dry 2. Fake Plastic Trees 3. Airbag 4. Letdown 5. Lucky 6. Everything In It's Right Place 7. There There 8. Bodysnatchers 9. Reckoner 10. Burn The Witch With that list you get some acoustic ballads, some rockers and some experiments. Nothing you can't handle.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 13, 2017 11:55:27 GMT -5
Seriously, though:
1. Everything in it's Right Place
2. Paranoid Android
3. Nude
4. Pyramid Song
5. How to Disappear Completely
6. Lotus Flower
7. Daydreaming
8. Idioteque
9. Let Down
10. Motion Picture Soundtrack
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Post by glider on Jul 13, 2017 13:13:55 GMT -5
I have tried to listen to Radiohead countless times, but I simply can't do it. Something about them doesn't sit well with me. Maybe its Thom's voice, not sure. Anyone got a simple 8-10 tracks that I should listen to? (If you include Creep I can't take you seriously. That might make my worst 5 songs of all time.) Because I'm not going to dive into albums without a proper vetting. They're just not for everyone - if you have trouble liking The Bends or OK Computer I doubt the rest will be to your liking. In Rainbows for me is the best median - it basically ditches the overuse of electronica and goes back to a more pure rock oriented sound with those subtle experimental time signatures/ melodic patterns and makes for a very enjoyable listenable experience. |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 13, 2017 13:39:02 GMT -5
Seriously though, if you listen to Let Down and don't like it there is no chance that Radiohead are for you
In my opinion I think it might just be the greatest song ever
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 13, 2017 13:59:50 GMT -5
Seriously though, if you listen to Let Down and don't like it there is no chance that Radiohead are for you In my opinion I think it might just be the greatest song everI'm starting to agree, to be honest. It's just so, so beautiful. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 14:50:25 GMT -5
I have tried to listen to Radiohead countless times, but I simply can't do it. Something about them doesn't sit well with me. Maybe its Thom's voice, not sure. Anyone got a simple 8-10 tracks that I should listen to? (If you include Creep I can't take you seriously. That might make my worst 5 songs of all time.) Because I'm not going to dive into albums without a proper vetting. I'll bring you in slowly. I'll be your huckleberry. 1. High & Dry 2. Fake Plastic Trees 3. Airbag 4. Letdown 5. Lucky 6. Everything In It's Right Place 7. There There 8. Bodysnatchers 9. Reckoner 10. Burn The Witch With that list you get some acoustic ballads, some rockers and some experiments. Nothing you can't handle. first of all.... thanks The Escapist and Manualex and Lennon2217 for the quick responses... I just finished listening to all of these. I'm still not sold. Can't get into his voice at all and the instrumentation doesn't do anything for me. I suppose it's just not my thing. Could have been a much worse listen though. That said, I now better understand what every single local band was trying to sound like about a decade and a half ago... it got old after about 3 songs. Never mind hearing about 20 bands trying to do the same thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 14:57:18 GMT -5
Seriously though, if you listen to Let Down and don't like it there is no chance that Radiohead are for you In my opinion I think it might just be the greatest song everI'm starting to agree, to be honest. It's just so, so beautiful. Maybe I'm listening to a different song than you two. It's an alright song, but the above statement is lunacy! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2017 15:37:38 GMT -5
I'll bring you in slowly. I'll be your huckleberry. 1. High & Dry 2. Fake Plastic Trees 3. Airbag 4. Letdown 5. Lucky 6. Everything In It's Right Place 7. There There 8. Bodysnatchers 9. Reckoner 10. Burn The Witch With that list you get some acoustic ballads, some rockers and some experiments. Nothing you can't handle. first of all.... thanks The Escapist and Manualex and Lennon2217 for the quick responses... I just finished listening to all of these. I'm still not sold. Can't get into his voice at all and the instrumentation doesn't do anything for me. I suppose it's just not my thing. Could have been a much worse listen though. That said, I now better understand what every single local band was trying to sound like about a decade and a half ago... it got old after about 3 songs. Never mind hearing about 20 bands trying to do the same thing. I've known for a long long time that Radiohead are not for everyone. |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 13, 2017 16:10:03 GMT -5
I'm starting to agree, to be honest. It's just so, so beautiful. Maybe I'm listening to a different song than you two. It's an alright song, but the above statement is lunacy! Let Down took ages to click with me - for ages, I considered it just an alright song too. Nice melody, nice production, nice track. That was it. Then one day I picked it out on YouTube and I suddenly realised how great it was - the ending, with the furious acoustic guitar and the angelic falsetto and heartbreaking lyrics and the layers upon layers of twinkling guitars, is one of the most powerful moments of music I've ever heard. Listening to the song recently, I've concluded it's simply a masterpiece. Everything about is perfect and powerful and emotional. I honestly don't think it's hyperbolic to consider it the greatest song ever recorded. And for me, "album bands" like Pink Floyd or Radiohead can't be properly accessed through playlists and the like. I'd just give OK Computer four or five listens on good headphones - if that doesn't at least pique your interest, they're just not for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 6:08:10 GMT -5
I think Radiohead are ok. Generally not too keen on their pop/rock songs, nor the bands they influenced that are categorised as 'post-Britpop'. Just doesn't interest me much, which has put me off looking too much into their discography seeing as the whole albums that tend to avoid that trope such as Kid A/Amnesiac appear to be the exception rather than the rule. More interested on occasions when they go a bit more experimental. Still often derivative of stuff that had already been done by '90s ambient and trip hop artists [Not aware of any Radiohead DnB?], but they do a good job of it which slots in well alongside their influences. Oasis, very similar. Not so interested in their pop/rock stuff, DM and MG are ok-ish imo. More interested when they try out different stuff like in BHN and SOTSOG. Again, nothing massively ground-breaking, but slot in well with their influences. I'm starting to agree, to be honest. It's just so, so beautiful. Maybe I'm listening to a different song than you two. It's an alright song, but the above statement is lunacy! Agree on that one  Tried Let Down several times, just reaches ok/nice for me. Even if there is some certain something I'm missing from it, "the greatest song ever" (which is a subjective statement anyway tbh) would be one that isn't beautiful and perfect, and would have to be one that completely changed my views on music, life, etc., which isn't really in Let Down's ballpark imo. Btw, I'd recommend giving Climbing Up The Walls and The National Anthem a shot as standalone tracks. |
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Post by matt on Jul 14, 2017 14:30:55 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe OK Computer The Bends Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Kid A What's The Story Morning Glory? In Rainbows Amnesiac Dig Out Your Soul Hail To The Thief Don't Believe The Truth Pablo Honey King of Limbs Heathen Chemistry
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The BendsStanding on the Shoulder of Giants / The King of LimbsHail to the ThiefDig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Heathen Chemistry / Pablo HoneyI'm surprised a Radiohead fan as big as yourself would rate Pablo Honey on a par with the wretched Heathen Chemistry ! It's an okay album, I personally rate it the same as Blur's debut Leisure. Two young and obviously talented bands both trying to find their feet and carve out an identity, going somewhat down a derivative route, but containing some absolute belters while the others don't quite hit the mark. Yet there's nothing appalling on it. In general, aside from Pablo Honey, every single Radiohead album comfortably exceeds all Oasis albums from 2000 onwards. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 15, 2017 0:04:38 GMT -5
Kid A
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The BendsStanding on the Shoulder of Giants / The King of LimbsHail to the ThiefDig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Heathen Chemistry / Pablo Honey I'm surprised a Radiohead fan as big as yourself would rate Pablo Honey on a par with the wretched Heathen Chemistry ! It's an okay album, I personally rate it the same as Blur's debut Leisure. Two young and obviously talented bands both trying to find their feet and carve out an identity, going somewhat down a derivative route, but containing some absolute belters while the others don't quite hit the mark. Yet there's nothing appalling on it. In general, aside from Pablo Honey, every single Radiohead album comfortably exceeds all Oasis albums from 2000 onwards. Even in the 90s it's a tight battle. The Bends and Ok Computer are titans in the alternative rock community. The Bends might rock harder than Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory combined. Absolutely mental guitar riffs by Jonny and Ed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:33:23 GMT -5
I like Oasis more, but I'd say Radiohead are a better band. Oasis followed two great albums up with a good one in BHN then lost their way for a little while, Radiohead followed their two hit albums up with their magnum opus and one of the best albums ever made. If I was to rate them like others have
KID A
Definitely Maybe
OK COMPUTER
What's The Story
THE BENDS
HAIL TO THE THIEF
IN RAINBOWS
Be Here Now
Don't Believe The Truth
AMNESIAC
A MOON SHAPED POOL
Dig Out Your Soul
KING OF THE LIMBS
PABLO HONEY
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Standing On The Shoulder
Heathen Chemistry
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 15, 2017 16:03:51 GMT -5
Kid A
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The BendsStanding on the Shoulder of Giants / The King of LimbsHail to the ThiefDig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Heathen Chemistry / Pablo Honey I'm surprised a Radiohead fan as big as yourself would rate Pablo Honey on a par with the wretched Heathen Chemistry ! It's an okay album, I personally rate it the same as Blur's debut Leisure. Two young and obviously talented bands both trying to find their feet and carve out an identity, going somewhat down a derivative route, but containing some absolute belters while the others don't quite hit the mark. Yet there's nothing appalling on it. In general, aside from Pablo Honey, every single Radiohead album comfortably exceeds all Oasis albums from 2000 onwards. Maybe you're right. Now that I think about it, although I never listen to either of them in full, I do sometimes enjoy Pablo as a five-track EP (You, Creep, Stop Whispering, Thinking About You, Blow Out). I know you could argue that The Hindu Times, Songbird, SCYHO, Little by Little, and maybe BOADC are just as good, but the truth is I just never listen to them. Also, I happened to listen to my improved tracklistings for The King of Limbs and SOTSOG today, and although I enjoyed both I definitely enjoyed Limbs more. So I'd now rank them like this:
Kid A
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The Bends
The King of LimbsHail to the Thief
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Dig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Pablo Honey
Heathen Chemistry
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 16:13:36 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe
(What's The Story) Morning Glory?
OK Computer
The Bends / Be Here Now
Kid A
Amnesiac
Standing On The Shoulder of Giants
Hail To The Thief
A Moon Shaped Pool
Don't Believe The Truth / In Rainbows (that one is gonna blow some people head's off)
Dig Out Your Soul
The King of Limbs / Pablo Honey
Heathen Chemistry
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 16:18:19 GMT -5
I'm surprised a Radiohead fan as big as yourself would rate Pablo Honey on a par with the wretched Heathen Chemistry ! It's an okay album, I personally rate it the same as Blur's debut Leisure. Two young and obviously talented bands both trying to find their feet and carve out an identity, going somewhat down a derivative route, but containing some absolute belters while the others don't quite hit the mark. Yet there's nothing appalling on it. In general, aside from Pablo Honey, every single Radiohead album comfortably exceeds all Oasis albums from 2000 onwards. Maybe you're right. Now that I think about it, although I never listen to either of them in full, I do sometimes enjoy Pablo as a five-track EP (You, Creep, Stop Whispering, Thinking About You, Blow Out). I know you could argue that The Hindu Times, Songbird, SCYHO, Little by Little, and maybe BOADC are just as good, but the truth is I just never listen to them. Also, I happened to listen to my improved tracklistings for The King of Limbs and SOTSOG today, and although I enjoyed both I definitely enjoyed Limbs more. So I'd now rank them like this:
Kid A
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The Bends
The King of LimbsHail to the Thief
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Dig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Pablo Honey
Heathen Chemistry
I'd also like to say that Codex is crushingly beautiful song. Amazing. SCYHO, Little By Little and The Hindu Times are some of the worst Oasis singles. I'll never know why casual fans do like as much those songs. All have shit verses and forced choruses. |
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Post by matt on Jul 15, 2017 16:50:55 GMT -5
I'm surprised a Radiohead fan as big as yourself would rate Pablo Honey on a par with the wretched Heathen Chemistry ! It's an okay album, I personally rate it the same as Blur's debut Leisure. Two young and obviously talented bands both trying to find their feet and carve out an identity, going somewhat down a derivative route, but containing some absolute belters while the others don't quite hit the mark. Yet there's nothing appalling on it. In general, aside from Pablo Honey, every single Radiohead album comfortably exceeds all Oasis albums from 2000 onwards. Maybe you're right. Now that I think about it, although I never listen to either of them in full, I do sometimes enjoy Pablo as a five-track EP (You, Creep, Stop Whispering, Thinking About You, Blow Out). I know you could argue that The Hindu Times, Songbird, SCYHO, Little by Little, and maybe BOADC are just as good, but the truth is I just never listen to them. Also, I happened to listen to my improved tracklistings for The King of Limbs and SOTSOG today, and although I enjoyed both I definitely enjoyed Limbs more. So I'd now rank them like this:
Kid A
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The Bends
The King of LimbsHail to the Thief
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Dig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Pablo Honey
Heathen Chemistry
I'd also like to say that Codex is crushingly beautiful song. Amazing. I've never rated Born On A Different Cloud. I've always found it dreary and tedious to the extreme, plus the Lennon influence is given the full blown tribute act for that one. Little By Little and Hindu Times are standard, while Songbird and Stop Crying are the only two excellent ones I feel. The rest of the album is truly dreadful; warbling dinosaur rock for paunchy pub bores. The height of uncool. Why it garners such a visceral reaction from fans like myself is the inexplicable way in which a band could have gone from such genuinely great heights to such lows in such a short space of time. Has a once great band ever had such a spectacular fall from grace like that? Pablo Honey never descends into such depravities - at worst, there are throwaway tracks. Certainly nothing I would rush to press skip if it came up on my iTunes shuffle, so the worst that can be said is for songs like Prove Yourself and that Thom's lyrics are a bit one dimensional and self pitying compared to what follows and the musical palette is much more limited (yet still excellently performed). Overall, I think it's a decent if unexceptional album. |
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 15, 2017 18:03:44 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe
Ok Computer (if it wasn't for "Filler" Happier could be #1)
(What's the Story) Morning Glory? (3rd only because of the untlited tracks)
The Bends
Kid A
Be Here Now
In Rainbows
Dig Out Your Soul
A Moon Shaped Pool
Amnesiac
Hail to the Thief
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
Don't Believe the Truth
The King of Limbs
Heathen Chemistry
Pablo Honey
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