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Post by matt on Mar 19, 2016 21:40:45 GMT -5
I actually think it's pretty interesting to read over - bar the "Radiohead are shite"-style-comments. I actually think Kalas got it right - they're just too different to compare sensibly. Both are/were great at what they do - be it anthemic, empowering rock 'n' roll, or paranoia-driven experimental rock. I prefer Radiohead, but I love Oasis too - today I was in an Oasis mood and listened to Be Here Now, but tomorrow I might be in a Radiohead mood and listen to OK Computer or The King of Limbs. Ultimately, I'm just glad we have both. ( matt, do you still think OK Computer is the most overrated album ever? It's probably my favourite rock album of all time...) Matter of fact, no I don't. My twin brother is a big fan of them, way bigger than me, so he got me into them a lot more. Only really The Bends I loved, but then he demanded I give Kid A a full chance, particularly as it had a mish mash of influences I was already a fan of. I remember listening to it on a loop when I was writing a dissertation at university and it slowly embedded its way into my mind. A lot of albums I can listen to on a loop and if by the fourth time I'm not getting it, I forget all about it and don't bother with it anymore, but when I was looking forward to the third loop I knew it was great. That's now my favourite of theirs and so it opened the gateway to happily give everything my full attention in the last two years, and I like them all, aside from King of Limbs and Pablo Honey which I find very underwhelming. Only when I'd listened to all the other ones in full detail did I go back to OK Computer, and it was strange because it was as if my brain had realigned itself and I was listening to something completely different - it was all very compelling whereas previously I was listening, but I just wasn't getting. Being well familiar with the band now helped but being five years older to when I first bought the album may have had something to do with it. Some albums just come to you with age and circumstance, and some sadly fade into the distance with your youth - it's a case of the former with OK Computer. |
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Post by standingontheedge on Mar 20, 2016 0:25:33 GMT -5
These are my two favorite bands, but for me it's Oasis hands down.
I started loving music because I loved Oasis's first two albums, and I can't say that about any other band, despite the fact that Radiohead have made some great music. But regardless, the euphoria of Live Forever, the psychedelia of Champagne Supernova, the gorgeous album version of Wonderwall etc.., they take me places that Radiohead (or any other band) never could.
But I still love them both!
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 20, 2016 5:08:40 GMT -5
I actually think it's pretty interesting to read over - bar the "Radiohead are shite"-style-comments. I actually think Kalas got it right - they're just too different to compare sensibly. Both are/were great at what they do - be it anthemic, empowering rock 'n' roll, or paranoia-driven experimental rock. I prefer Radiohead, but I love Oasis too - today I was in an Oasis mood and listened to Be Here Now, but tomorrow I might be in a Radiohead mood and listen to OK Computer or The King of Limbs. Ultimately, I'm just glad we have both. ( matt , do you still think OK Computer is the most overrated album ever? It's probably my favourite rock album of all time...) Matter of fact, no I don't. My twin brother is a big fan of them, way bigger than me, so he got me into them a lot more. Only really The Bends I loved, but then he demanded I give Kid A a full chance, particularly as it had a mish mash of influences I was already a fan of. I remember listening to it on a loop when I was writing a dissertation at university and it slowly embedded its way into my mind. A lot of albums I can listen to on a loop and if by the fourth time I'm not getting it, I forget all about it and don't bother with it anymore, but when I was looking forward to the third loop I knew it was great. That's now my favourite of theirs and so it opened the gateway to happily give everything my full attention in the last two years, and I like them all, aside from King of Limbs and Pablo Honey which I find very underwhelming. Only when I'd listened to all the other ones in full detail did I go back to OK Computer, and it was strange because it was as if my brain had realigned itself and I was listening to something completely different - it was all very compelling whereas previously I was listening, but I just wasn't getting. Being well familiar with the band now helped but being five years older to when I first bought the album may have had something to do with it. Some albums just come to you with age and circumstance, and some sadly fade into the distance with your youth - it's a case of the former with OK Computer. I'd definitely recommend spending more time with The King of Limbs - it's grown on me to the point where I don't think it's in any lower category than The Bends and Amnesiac. Bloom, Lotus Flower, Codex, Give up the Ghost, and Separator are all top-tier Radiohead songs IMO. It's definitely a "headphones in a dark room" album though, but once you connect with the forest-at-night theme, it becomes much more understandable. |
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Post by Jack on Mar 20, 2016 11:26:11 GMT -5
Matter of fact, no I don't. My twin brother is a big fan of them, way bigger than me, so he got me into them a lot more. Only really The Bends I loved, but then he demanded I give Kid A a full chance, particularly as it had a mish mash of influences I was already a fan of. I remember listening to it on a loop when I was writing a dissertation at university and it slowly embedded its way into my mind. A lot of albums I can listen to on a loop and if by the fourth time I'm not getting it, I forget all about it and don't bother with it anymore, but when I was looking forward to the third loop I knew it was great. That's now my favourite of theirs and so it opened the gateway to happily give everything my full attention in the last two years, and I like them all, aside from King of Limbs and Pablo Honey which I find very underwhelming. Only when I'd listened to all the other ones in full detail did I go back to OK Computer, and it was strange because it was as if my brain had realigned itself and I was listening to something completely different - it was all very compelling whereas previously I was listening, but I just wasn't getting. Being well familiar with the band now helped but being five years older to when I first bought the album may have had something to do with it. Some albums just come to you with age and circumstance, and some sadly fade into the distance with your youth - it's a case of the former with OK Computer. I'd definitely recommend spending more time with The King of Limbs - it's grown on me to the point where I don't think it's in any lower category than The Bends and Amnesiac. Bloom, Lotus Flower, Codex, Give up the Ghost, and Separator are all top-tier Radiohead songs IMO. It's definitely a "headphones in a dark room" album though, but once you connect with the forest-at-night theme, it becomes much more understandable. For some reason I completely dismissed TKOL for years, never really listening to it properly. It's only been within the last 4 or 5 months that I've fallen in love with it. Avenger, you have actually just listed all my favourite songs on it. Although, the Live From The Basement version of TKOL is miles better, and pretty much the only version I listen too. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 20, 2016 12:03:24 GMT -5
I'd definitely recommend spending more time with The King of Limbs - it's grown on me to the point where I don't think it's in any lower category than The Bends and Amnesiac. Bloom, Lotus Flower, Codex, Give up the Ghost, and Separator are all top-tier Radiohead songs IMO. It's definitely a "headphones in a dark room" album though, but once you connect with the forest-at-night theme, it becomes much more understandable. For some reason I completely dismissed TKOL for years, never really listening to it properly. It's only been within the last 4 or 5 months that I've fallen in love with it. Avenger, you have actually just listed all my favourite songs on it. Although, the Live From The Basement version of TKOL is miles better, and pretty much the only version I listen too. I love the difference between the live and album versions much more these days. Bloom in particular is just two different animals - a shadowy collection of loops on the album and a polyrhythmic juggernaut live. I can appreciate both though. One of my favourite playlists for The King of Limbs is this: 1. Bloom [Live Version] 2. Morning Mr. Magpie [Live Version] 3. Little by Little [Live Version] 4. Staircase 5. Feral [Live Version] 6. Lotus Flower [Live Version] 7. Supercollider [Live Version] 8. The Butcher 9. The Daily Mail 10. Codex [Live Version] 11. Give up the Ghost [Live Version] 12. Separator [Live Version] |
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Post by Jack on Mar 20, 2016 12:38:20 GMT -5
For some reason I completely dismissed TKOL for years, never really listening to it properly. It's only been within the last 4 or 5 months that I've fallen in love with it. Avenger, you have actually just listed all my favourite songs on it. Although, the Live From The Basement version of TKOL is miles better, and pretty much the only version I listen too. I love the difference between the live and album versions much more these days. Bloom in particular is just two different animals - a shadowy collection of loops on the album and a polyrhythmic juggernaut live. I can appreciate both though. One of my favourite playlists for The King of Limbs is this: 1. Bloom [Live Version] 2. Morning Mr. Magpie [Live Version] 3. Little by Little [Live Version] 4. Staircase 5. Feral [Live Version] 6. Lotus Flower [Live Version] 7. Supercollider [Live Version] 8. The Butcher 9. The Daily Mail 10. Codex [Live Version] 11. Give up the Ghost [Live Version] 12. Separator [Live Version] The Daily Mail is actually the live version from the Basement, if I'm not mistaken, with no official studio version. I meant to quote you in my above post btw, not Avenger. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 20, 2016 13:15:39 GMT -5
I love the difference between the live and album versions much more these days. Bloom in particular is just two different animals - a shadowy collection of loops on the album and a polyrhythmic juggernaut live. I can appreciate both though. One of my favourite playlists for The King of Limbs is this: 1. Bloom [Live Version] 2. Morning Mr. Magpie [Live Version] 3. Little by Little [Live Version] 4. Staircase 5. Feral [Live Version] 6. Lotus Flower [Live Version] 7. Supercollider [Live Version] 8. The Butcher 9. The Daily Mail 10. Codex [Live Version] 11. Give up the Ghost [Live Version] 12. Separator [Live Version] The Daily Mail is actually the live version from the Basement, if I'm not mistaken, with no official studio version. I meant to quote you in my above post btw, not Avenger. You're right, you can hear they're the same by Thom's breathing at the end. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 20, 2016 19:06:37 GMT -5
I believe this is appropriate:
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Post by glider on Mar 20, 2016 20:07:41 GMT -5
I would post my current top 10 but they have so many friggin songs, I don't feel i'd do justice. I've only gotten through Bends, OK Computer, Kid A, In Rainbows, and part of Amnesiac. Still haven't done the b-sides, or Hail to the Thief, only a few tracks from it. Also not King of Limbs.
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Post by sortitout1471 on Mar 20, 2016 22:39:02 GMT -5
Radiohead still for me sound better on paper than they actually do on record.
I can admire and acknowledge they are good musicians and clever folks and have right sort of good and cool influences , on paper i should like them but they always leave me cold. Doesn't matter if Thom Yorke is messing around on Ableton with an FX pad or has Johnny Greenwood noodling away on guitar. Theres something missing from their stuff and not sure what 'that' is....
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Post by Rolo on Mar 21, 2016 6:08:35 GMT -5
Not really a fan, I judge a song mainly on the melody and Oasis are in another league from what I've heard. Not much from Radiohead has grabbed my attention other than their album "The Bends".
I will say this though, I decided to check out The Daily Mail as I've seen it mentioned in this thread a few times. What a fucking song, absolutely love it.
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Post by matt on Mar 21, 2016 16:07:58 GMT -5
Matter of fact, no I don't. My twin brother is a big fan of them, way bigger than me, so he got me into them a lot more. Only really The Bends I loved, but then he demanded I give Kid A a full chance, particularly as it had a mish mash of influences I was already a fan of. I remember listening to it on a loop when I was writing a dissertation at university and it slowly embedded its way into my mind. A lot of albums I can listen to on a loop and if by the fourth time I'm not getting it, I forget all about it and don't bother with it anymore, but when I was looking forward to the third loop I knew it was great. That's now my favourite of theirs and so it opened the gateway to happily give everything my full attention in the last two years, and I like them all, aside from King of Limbs and Pablo Honey which I find very underwhelming. Only when I'd listened to all the other ones in full detail did I go back to OK Computer, and it was strange because it was as if my brain had realigned itself and I was listening to something completely different - it was all very compelling whereas previously I was listening, but I just wasn't getting. Being well familiar with the band now helped but being five years older to when I first bought the album may have had something to do with it. Some albums just come to you with age and circumstance, and some sadly fade into the distance with your youth - it's a case of the former with OK Computer. I'd definitely recommend spending more time with The King of Limbs - it's grown on me to the point where I don't think it's in any lower category than The Bends and Amnesiac. Bloom, Lotus Flower, Codex, Give up the Ghost, and Separator are all top-tier Radiohead songs IMO. It's definitely a "headphones in a dark room" album though, but once you connect with the forest-at-night theme, it becomes much more understandable. No doubt many albums have taken years for me to appreciate. Coming to appreciate their other albums makes it likely I may come to love KoL, just waiting for that time in my life when it aligns with everything! |
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Post by Jack on Mar 21, 2016 17:03:00 GMT -5
If you haven't already heard the news, Radiohead haven't yet finished LP9. Source: DIY interview.
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Post by andybellwillring on Mar 21, 2016 17:09:47 GMT -5
Except for Morning Mr. Magpie (which is still decent) and Feral (which is pretty shit) I'd say TKOL might be my second favourite Radiohead album behind Kid A.
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Post by Jack on Mar 21, 2016 18:32:23 GMT -5
If you haven't already heard the news, Radiohead haven't yet finished LP9. Source: DIY interview. I think it's basically finished though, because Nigel has moved on to mixing the RHCP album. He wouldn't do that if there was still important Radiohead stuff to do. I think it's a matter of tying up loose ends at this point (I.e. finish that fucking artwork Stanley!) With the amount of social media and websites around, I don't understand why they cant just keep us updated on the progress of the album? Is it legal thing, or do they just want to create hype? |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 21, 2016 19:02:49 GMT -5
I think it's basically finished though, because Nigel has moved on to mixing the RHCP album. He wouldn't do that if there was still important Radiohead stuff to do. I think it's a matter of tying up loose ends at this point (I.e. finish that fucking artwork Stanley!) With the amount of social media and websites around, I don't understand why they cant just keep us updated on the progress of the album? Is it legal thing, or do they just want to create hype? It's not a legal thing I don't think, maybe they just don't really think about it. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 21, 2016 20:51:46 GMT -5
The one thing that elevates Radiohead above Oasis for me, besides general preferences in musical style, is Radiohead's versatility. They were able to reinvent their sound every few albums. The most Oasis could ever change their style was SOTSOG, but that wasn't a radical enough change.
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Post by space75gr on Mar 22, 2016 7:02:29 GMT -5
just a few thoughts...
When i read a NoelG interview, you hardly see something good for Oasis (except DM and MG). Only negative comments about their songs and albums, about almost anything post MG. And the worse is that he s talking about money, money, money, big , big, big, money, money, money...Thats a letdown for me, cause Oasis was something more. It was about music, about passion, about soul, about keeping alive the spirit of Rock n Roll. Not just for the money. It makes Oasis look like just a product from a charismatic songwriter, something you can find on every Robbie Williams album, plus any pop-rock product. Is that Oasis for you? Money and cynicism?
Also, when the leader of a band (Noel) hate so many things about his band, albums, songs, what does this say to you about the quality of the band?
When Noel admits that Liam is a bad singer, what does this say to you about the quality of the band, when with that ''bad'' singer Oasis released (post2000) albums and played to millions of people (making millions for the poket of Noel)?
Liam' point of view about Oasis is a different story. Im still trying to see Oasis from his point of view, but its getting harder n harder every day...
On the other hand, that's something that you ll never think about Radiohead. After all these years they are still musicians, with love about music and not only for the money. They are making money from their art and like everyone else they are trying about it, but its not only for the money. Or when you read a Suede interview, you never get the impression that its only about the money. I read their latest interviews and they make you feel that they are still young boys with the ambition to move their art forward, to create art, to offer something new or good to their fans.
That difference say a lot about both bands (Oasis-Radiohead). Its a red line for me.Cause music used to be not only about a good song. Music is not just a supermarket product. Music is art, music is passion, music is love, philosophy, way of living. Cynicism is reallity but i really dont want to live in a world like this and hear music from artists that seem to lost their soul...
Radiohead all they way, from that point of view..
(i m gonna repost this to another thread...)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 12:51:32 GMT -5
This thread is a goldmine. Maybe not much as much as the "Beat Goes On" one but not that far. Seriously, it's a good laugh  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2017 13:03:15 GMT -5
This thread is a goldmine. Maybe not much as much as the "Beat Goes On" one but not that far. Seriously, it's a good laugh I honestly can't tell who you are mocking, pro Oasis or pro Radiohead? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2017 13:04:36 GMT -5
The Daily Mail is actually the live version from the Basement, if I'm not mistaken, with no official studio version. I meant to quote you in my above post btw, not Avenger. You're right, you can hear they're the same by Thom's breathing at the end. Staircase is also a live take from the basement. No studio version. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 13:14:05 GMT -5
This thread is a goldmine. Maybe not much as much as the "Beat Goes On" one but not that far. Seriously, it's a good laugh I honestly can't tell who you are mocking, pro Oasis or pro Radiohead? Mocking is a strong word (everyone is entitled to their opinion), it's rather a little tease. And it's not about pro Oasis or pro Radiohead (I made it clear before that I love both bands) but about unobjective sentences. When I read "Radiohead have shit melodies", I wonder if it's trolling or something... |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 12, 2017 15:16:27 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe
OK Computer
The Bends
Be Here Now
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
Kid A
What's The Story Morning Glory?
In Rainbows
Amnesiac
Dig Out Your Soul
Hail To The Thief
Don't Believe The Truth
Pablo Honey
King of Limbs
Heathen Chemistry
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 12, 2017 16:06:48 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe OK Computer The Bends Be Here Now Standing on the Shoulder of Giants Kid A What's The Story Morning Glory? In Rainbows Amnesiac Dig Out Your Soul Hail To The Thief Don't Believe The Truth Pablo Honey King of Limbs Heathen Chemistry
Ok Computer(What's the Story) Morning Glory? Definitely Maybe A Moon Shaped Pool
In RainbowsBe Here Now Amnesiac
The BendsStanding on the Shoulder of Giants / The King of LimbsHail to the ThiefDig Out Your Soul Don't Believe the Truth Heathen Chemistry / Pablo Honey |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2017 17:31:13 GMT -5
I honestly can't tell who you are mocking, pro Oasis or pro Radiohead? Mocking is a strong word (everyone is entitled to their opinion), it's rather a little tease. And it's not about pro Oasis or pro Radiohead (I made it clear before that I love both bands) but about unobjective sentences. When I read "Radiohead have shit melodies", I wonder if it's trolling or something... You're right. I went back, read the first few pages of the thread. People were honestly saying DOYS was better than In Rainbows. Thats a fucking hoot! |
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