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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 10:33:48 GMT -5
GD you posted as fact not opinion. Your post makes out the band made Dig Out Your Soul as it turned out. They didn't. Noel did, he admits it, he choose the songs not the band. Your right though it's not worth a fight. It's an Internet forum but keep your language to yourself. Sorry about that. Shouldn't have called you a name. And it was an opinion. Which is why I started the post with "I think"... I would appreciate you not editing my words though. I'm not saying you are wrong but please don't edit me and "fix" my opinion for me. If you want me to be respectful of your posts...try being respectful of mine. Lead by example if you think you are the better man. Something tells me you wouldn't appreciate me "fixing" your posts. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2012 10:35:53 GMT -5
GD you posted as fact not opinion. Your post makes out the band made Dig Out Your Soul as it turned out. They didn't. Noel did, he admits it, he choose the songs not the band. Your right though it's not worth a fight. It's an Internet forum but keep your language to yourself. Sorry about that. Shouldn't have called you a name. And it was an opinion. Which is why I started the post with "I think"... I would appreciate you not editing my words though. I'm not saying you are wrong but please don't edit me and "fix" my opinion for me. If you want me to be respectful of your posts...try being respectful of mine. Lead by example if you think you are the better man. Something tells me you wouldn't appreciate me "fixing" your posts. I hate when mom and dad fight  |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Aug 29, 2012 10:36:52 GMT -5
marijuana would deter a lot of the arguments around here. where as random drug testing should be implemented for some users, mandatory medicinal marijuana should be implemented for some users as well.
God bless.
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 29, 2012 10:37:32 GMT -5
BTW, chuffed at how well HFB, hopefully the next albums as well as Beady Eyes latest effort will be an absolute blinder.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Aug 29, 2012 10:54:39 GMT -5
what DBTT was the only other album with legitimate flow, the tracks on average aren't nearly as good as Be Here Now/Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory, the reason it consistently gets placed as 4th (or 3rd) best is because it does have flow and works as an album. Just because there are no skippers does not mean its filled of top quality material. HFB on the other hand is filled with top quality material, its good shit - the weakest song there easily outshines the weakest from any post MG album - actually maybe just MG tops it here considering Digsy's Dinner. It lacks flow, it has less than fucking Standing on the Shoulders, (I would say DGSS here but argument starting isn't really my thing  ) DOYS was going for a sound, and kind of failed. It's not really a good comparison for this. Would agree with the "flow". DBTT might be the only Oasis album that has great flow. DOYS has better than most, but I wouldn't say that it has great flow either, maybe not even decent. Flow isn't just a sound, it's also the songs working together. Each one making the other better and there being almost a conversation. Which is why I think DM has good flow. Because the songs on that album very much compliment each other. HFB's is a collection of good, very good and great songs. Not necessarily great flow, only in the sense that there's not the one dud that detracts from what songs have played before it and what will be played after it. But in the general sense of songs complimenting each other, creating a conversation, and also have a distinct drive and sound, it greatly lacks in flow. It's so incredibly strange to have you agreeing with me  And I guess overall, we shouldn't forget the one classic album with (in my opinion) both the highest quality songs and best flow of almost anything else made. Maybe not as lyrically deep as others, but for fucks sake, Morning Glory is an amazing album |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 10:58:19 GMT -5
Would agree with the "flow". DBTT might be the only Oasis album that has great flow. DOYS has better than most, but I wouldn't say that it has great flow either, maybe not even decent. Flow isn't just a sound, it's also the songs working together. Each one making the other better and there being almost a conversation. Which is why I think DM has good flow. Because the songs on that album very much compliment each other. HFB's is a collection of good, very good and great songs. Not necessarily great flow, only in the sense that there's not the one dud that detracts from what songs have played before it and what will be played after it. But in the general sense of songs complimenting each other, creating a conversation, and also have a distinct drive and sound, it greatly lacks in flow. It's so incredibly strange to have you agreeing with me And I guess overall, we shouldn't forget the one classic album with (in my opinion) both the highest quality songs and best flow of almost anything else made. Maybe not as lyrically deep as others, but for fucks sake, Morning Glory is an amazing album True that. DM is pretty darn special too. |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Aug 29, 2012 11:00:23 GMT -5
Something tells me you wouldn't appreciate me "fixing" your posts. I know everyone will hate me for baiting her along a little further, but I can just imagine this already 'fixed' -gdforever |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 11:04:58 GMT -5
Something tells me you wouldn't appreciate me "fixing" your posts. I know everyone will hate me for baiting her along a little further, but I can just imagine this already 'fixed' -gdforever On the iPhone that shows up as Liam Noel Gallagher. I was like...I don't get it. Luckily I haven't sunk to the levels of just changing people opinions yet. I'll be NIGHTMARE when I start that. |
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Post by truefaith on Aug 29, 2012 11:32:48 GMT -5
One very positive effect of HFB's succes is that it showes when an artist is doing a good album, it could sell. Wich wasn't obvious this past few years considering Coldplay's succes.
Hopefully it will create an emulation, it already started since BDI wants to make a better album to match it, and hopefully a few bands will start to make better quality album again rather than to live on their popularity.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 11:40:35 GMT -5
Noel is 22 in the midweek.
He's sold ~203,800 this year so far.
14th most popular album so far in 2012...despite being released last year. Although the majority of the top 20 albums this year are residual sales from last years records it looks like.
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Post by caro on Aug 29, 2012 11:41:35 GMT -5
phew, close one, back to the initial discussion and play nice btw this thread made me want to listen to HFB so now it's rocking in my car |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Aug 29, 2012 11:43:04 GMT -5
phew, close one, back to the initial discussion and play nice btw this thread made me want to listen to HFB so now it's rocking in my car i hope you aren't driving and browsing the forum. God bless. |
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Post by Master Wanker on Aug 29, 2012 14:47:01 GMT -5
Incredible chart run almost a year now BTW I still believe Guigsy even when he left the band was always making the key decisions regarding the albums flow and direction Bob the builder can we FIX IT ,Bob the builder yes we can |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 17:55:12 GMT -5
Back to the topic at hand then....gdforever, do you have worldwide and UK counts of the sales to date? Nothing definite about worldwide. Last guess was around 1.1-1.2 million. In the UK somewhere around 690K which is probably accurate within a couple thousand. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 29, 2012 18:01:56 GMT -5
Back to the topic at hand then....gdforever, do you have worldwide and UK counts of the sales to date? Nothing definite about worldwide. Last guess was around 1.1-1.2 million. In the UK somewhere around 690K which is probably accurate within a couple thousand. He should be between 695-696k. Should reach or come extremely close to 700k this week. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 18:02:03 GMT -5
No idea about the worldwide. Last guess was around 1.2 million. In the UK somewhere around 690K It should be between 695-696k. Should be reaching or passing 700k this week. You're right. I missed last weeks sales which is why I was 5K short. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 29, 2012 18:08:08 GMT -5
It should be between 695-696k. Should be reaching or passing 700k this week. You're right. I missed last weeks sales which is why I was 5K short. We're probably gonna have to wait for Noel to give a random sales update that might be 50k-100k off. ;D But I buy his 1.2 million. Extremely incredible tour considering that there's a thread floating here where people were saying they'd be happy with 600k in worldwide albums.  |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 29, 2012 18:24:47 GMT -5
You're right. I missed last weeks sales which is why I was 5K short. We're probably gonna have to wait for Noel to give a random sales update that might be 50k-100k off. ;D But I buy his 1.2 million. Extremely incredible tour considering that there's a thread floating here where people were saying they'd be happy with 600k in worldwide albums. One day I go back and read this thread through. I did it when we were a couple months out after the Christmas rush. It's a great read. People going from pessimistic to optimistic to ecstatic. It's been a good ride. We weren't confident in a #1! Thought the X-factor dude would snag it. Now he has sold almost as many on his second year as Cardle has sold total! |
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Post by gdforever on Sept 2, 2012 12:50:55 GMT -5
#24 this week.
Noel has now spent more time in the top 20, top 40, and top 75 than any post Morning Glory Oasis album.
Pretty cool
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Post by leak4ever on Sept 2, 2012 15:39:54 GMT -5
#24 this week. Noel has now spent more time in the top 20, top 40, and top 75 than any post Morning Glory Oasis album. Pretty cool Any chance of HFB beating MG? |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 2, 2012 22:46:35 GMT -5
#24 this week. Noel has now spent more time in the top 20, top 40, and top 75 than any post Morning Glory Oasis album. Pretty cool Any chance of HFB beating MG? 0% times a million. |
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Post by manny on Sept 2, 2012 22:48:51 GMT -5
How many weeks for it to happen?
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Post by spaneli on Sept 2, 2012 22:58:17 GMT -5
How many weeks for it to happen? MG and DM were basically on the charts for 3 years. So a lot of weeks. I don't have the exact numbers, but it's a task that's probably far too tall for HFB's. It would have to probably depend on Noel's follow-up solo being a big hit. Which would cause HFB's to be bought up again. But even that's an amzingle large longshot. So it's very doubtful. If you want the exact weeks, GD probably has it. |
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Post by manny on Sept 2, 2012 23:16:42 GMT -5
I knew that it was about three years and when the hype of BHN died it all dropped the sales of the two first albums. But it would be nice to know it. |
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Post by gdforever on Sept 2, 2012 23:37:03 GMT -5
DM spent 174 weeks in the top 75. MG spent 165 weeks in the top 75. And a full year in he top 10. No way is Noel gonna touch that. That's Adele style territory now. |
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