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Post by truefaith on Aug 24, 2012 9:47:52 GMT -5
you have the nerve to told me this, mister "liam is a twat he missed the unplugged " in every single thread in BDI section. I stand by my position, HFB would not outsell DBTT even in 2005. That's a completely baseless statement. You have absolutely no facts to support that. You don't have fact that it would, you just have speculation and you're diminishing that in 2005, there was already a lot of illegal downloading. And I have fact, DBTT was a great succes wordlwilde, every single of it was in the top 3 in the uk, it was the biggest tour Oasis had ever done, Noel said himself that this tour was huge. HFB is a great succes IN THE UK and the singles aren't even. With your specualtion you can argue that HFB would have outsold MG in 1995...I can assure you it wouldn't have.
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Post by deasy on Aug 24, 2012 9:59:10 GMT -5
Why do people argue against statistics and facts? Silly.
Some people just seem determined to put down the albums success for no reason at all.
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Post by petterf22 on Aug 24, 2012 10:06:00 GMT -5
First and only post since 2004, and it contains more relevant information than all of truefaith's posts put together. Nice one. Thanx, i have monitored this nonsens for 8 years and was finally forced to say something
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 24, 2012 11:01:20 GMT -5
That's a completely baseless statement. You have absolutely no facts to support that. You don't have fact that it would, you just have speculation and you're diminishing that in 2005, there was already a lot of illegal downloading. And I have fact, DBTT was a great succes wordlwilde, every single of it was in the top 3 in the uk, it was the biggest tour Oasis had ever done, Noel said himself that this tour was huge. HFB is a great succes IN THE UK and the singles aren't even. With your specualtion you can argue that HFB would have outsold MG in 1995...I can assure you it wouldn't have. No, I'm not saying HFB would sell more than DBTT. Neither am I saying that it wouldn't sell more than DBTT. I'm not saying either is true. Why? Because I don't have any FACTS. Why is it so hard for you to understand this? Everything you say is just speculation. If you have no facts, you cannot make concrete statements like that. Unless you can go back in time and release HFB in 2005 to see how it sells, there's absolutely no way you can say what would happen.
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Post by hypermyth on Aug 24, 2012 13:20:10 GMT -5
is it possible that every fucking thread is becoming shit? trolls are ruining every thread
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Post by deasy on Aug 26, 2012 11:23:10 GMT -5
It fell a bit from the number 10 spot in the mids in the end...
#16 (20) High Flying Birds
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 26, 2012 11:47:59 GMT -5
Still, still being in the top 20 at this stage of the album's life is fantastic.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2012 12:26:25 GMT -5
Fairly amazing. He should pass the 700k mark by the end of next week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 13:23:30 GMT -5
It fell a bit from the number 10 spot in the mids in the end... #16 (20) High Flying Birds One word: Wow!
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Post by gdforever on Aug 26, 2012 15:23:41 GMT -5
You don't have fact that it would, you just have speculation and you're diminishing that in 2005, there was already a lot of illegal downloading. And I have fact, DBTT was a great succes wordlwilde, every single of it was in the top 3 in the uk, it was the biggest tour Oasis had ever done, Noel said himself that this tour was huge. HFB is a great succes IN THE UK and the singles aren't even. With your specualtion you can argue that HFB would have outsold MG in 1995...I can assure you it wouldn't have. Your thickness makes lgfaver sound like a freaking Rhodes Scholar. You continuously disagree with the only true fact in this whole thread. That artists sold a lot more albums in 2005 than they do in 2012. Any artist, given the same chart positions and weeks on the chart would sell significantly more records in 2005. And vice versa. I love DBTT, but there's no chance those singles would have gone #1, #1 and #2 in 2011/12. I'd just like the say there are tons of facts in this thread.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 26, 2012 15:51:04 GMT -5
So Noel is selling more albums than acts like Coldplay, Lana Del Rey, Bieber, all of which have been out for less time that Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 9:33:36 GMT -5
Thanks for your "contribution" to this thread truefaith.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 27, 2012 10:26:44 GMT -5
Thanks for your "contribution" to this thread truefaith. your "contribution" to any thread are yet to be seen.
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 27, 2012 11:03:24 GMT -5
wow! who would thought that he could outsell DOYS. seems like normal fans were tired of oasis and desperately waited for noel to make his solo efford. nice one
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Post by truefaith on Aug 27, 2012 11:13:44 GMT -5
wow! who would thought that he could outsell DOYS. seems like normal fans were tired of oasis and desperately waited for noel to make his solo efford. nice one Or that people wanted more catchy song and big oasis ballad like IIHAG than heavy sound like DOYS; DOYS wasn't an easy album at all, even Noel's song on it aren't very typical catchy oasis songs. Unlike HFB wich reminds MG in his style, even if it's far less good. So they weren't tired of Oasis, since HFB is the same thing as an Oasis album minus the rocker and Liam's voice. And are you implying anyway? Do you actually see a big difference in Noel's songwritting in this album. Do you any song that wouldn't have been on next Oasis album? (WAL i know, but it's the oly one). So you're implying that people were waiting for an entire album written by Noel. But Only fans really pay attention to it and fans were buying Oasis albums anyway. Every time Oasis tried to be experimental, they ended up not selling so well (SOTSOG and DOYS). Every time they've been themselves and made catchy albums with good easy songs and ballads and rockers and big single, they've sold very well (last example is DBTT). DOYS hadn't even cacthy singles. So don't you think that the main reason HFB has outsold DOYS is because DOYS was trying to be experimental whereas HFB is just classic Oasis ?
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Post by circleoflife on Aug 27, 2012 11:21:37 GMT -5
congrats to noel, remarkable achievement
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Post by caro on Aug 27, 2012 11:23:22 GMT -5
I think NGHFB is really really good and has attracted more people than just die hard oasis fans (the ones who bought DOYS)
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Post by spaneli on Aug 27, 2012 11:40:53 GMT -5
I just think nghfb is really really good and might have interested more people than just oasis fans I would 100% agree with that. His UK sales total would say that he has sold a decent percentage to non-diehard fans. Probably a mix of causal Oasis fans and people who weren't fans at all.
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Post by GIMH on Aug 27, 2012 12:02:43 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think it's down to any predisposed 'sick of oasis/wanting a Noel solo effort' but rather people have liked the tunes they've heard. And also the amount of airplay AKA...WAL has had far outstrips anything from DOYS and that will be a massive factor.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 27, 2012 12:03:48 GMT -5
wow! who would thought that he could outsell DOYS. seems like normal fans were tired of oasis and desperately waited for noel to make his solo efford. nice one I think he'll have outsold SOTSOG by the end of the week. And considering the relative record buying climates of 2000 vs 2012. He's outperformed it by a massive measure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2012 12:08:17 GMT -5
wow! who would thought that he could outsell DOYS. seems like normal fans were tired of oasis and desperately waited for noel to make his solo efford. nice one I think he'll have outsold SOTSOG by the end of the week. And considering the relative record buying climates of 2000 vs 2012. He's outperformed it by a massive measure. That's a pretty amazing achievement.
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Post by GIMH on Aug 27, 2012 12:25:51 GMT -5
wow! who would thought that he could outsell DOYS. seems like normal fans were tired of oasis and desperately waited for noel to make his solo efford. nice one I think he'll have outsold SOTSOG by the end of the week. And considering the relative record buying climates of 2000 vs 2012. He's outperformed it by a massive measure. SOTSOG was a massive flop though, by Oasis standards.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 27, 2012 12:34:19 GMT -5
I think he'll have outsold SOTSOG by the end of the week. And considering the relative record buying climates of 2000 vs 2012. He's outperformed it by a massive measure. SOTSOG was a massive flop though, by Oasis standards. Yes, especially considering that that 700k came when illegal downloading was it it's infancy. Record sales were still extremely high then. Which makes you wonder if HFB's had come out in 2000. Queue more thread derailment. ;D
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Post by GIMH on Aug 27, 2012 12:36:06 GMT -5
Sold like 250k in its first week as well. So another 450k in the following 12 years.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 27, 2012 12:38:33 GMT -5
Sold like 250k in its first week as well. So another 450k in the following 12 years. Ouch! People found out very quickly that the album wasn't up to snuff. Continuing that trend of big opening weeks for Gallagher albums, with poor supporting weeks to follow.
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