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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 9, 2011 23:55:35 GMT -5
After listening to DGSS, I wanted to go to sleep.
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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 9, 2011 23:56:51 GMT -5
As much as I loved the EOTR soundcheck, the vocals of the finished version just sound too processed to me, mainly the verse (shades of Nickelback). I think the album could have benefitted from a bit more of the technicolor TDOYAM/RM/STC sound and a bit less of the radio-friendly EOTR/IIHAG/WAL sound. I'm sure many will disagree.
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Post by BlueJay on Oct 10, 2011 0:06:05 GMT -5
People can continue to adopt the higher-than-all move on and shut up stance on the whole Liam v Noel comparisons saga, but what you have to remember is that most of the songs on Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds were originally intended and written for Oasis. Thus, we are more than warranted to discuss what Liam would have brought to the table on this collection of songs.
This is a Noel album, but written in the same shadow and demographic as Oasis. It is very much in the same context and is thus very comparable. His next album with AA will be a different story and more separated from and probably without any links to Oasis. That will be the first real Noel album that is independant from his previous work. There will be no discussions of Liam there becasue it will be a completely different context, but this album here as the last outpost of songs written for Oasis, is crying out for comparisons and discussions to Liam. Get over it.
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Post by antoliam on Oct 10, 2011 1:19:57 GMT -5
it's exactly the album that i am expected by Noel, maybe too choirs and strings but surely a great album.. my favourites are everybody's on the run, record machine, if i had a gun, the death of you and me and stop the clocks
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Post by mayhew37 on Oct 10, 2011 2:03:36 GMT -5
i am on my 2nd listen of the album and i am enjoying it, like anything that is hyped so much it never quite lives up to expectations (thats not to say it isn't good) and on first listen i didn't enjoy Dig Out Your Soul at all really and this has had a much better 1st impression on me
it's clearly had lots of work on it, Noel's vocals have a few effects on them in places but perhaps he is mildly self-contious having to do it all on his own, even in interviews he has come across as less sure of himself and his new direction and perhaps as a result went a tad to far with production but then again it is pop-rock record and at least we know can sing live fine and no doubt many good quality acoustic and live versions of these songs will turn up over the coming months
i like the inclusion of the choir and we know it's somethings Noel has wanted on an album - i know Dig Out Your Soul featured a choir but they weren't a prominent feature - and for me it doesn't disappoint - now onto the track by track review
Everybody's On The Run i never really bothered with the sound-check version so this is like a new song for me and it's nice enough i suppose and imagine it will grow on me
Dream On i'm not overly impressed with the lyrics, which isn't due to the swearing but the songs theme is a nice one, no harm in dreaming on and the trumpets are nice at the end
If I Had A Gun... great melody and structure and the lyrics are good and nice to hear noel sing about his feelings
The Death Of You And Me i love this song, some people may call it The Importance of Being Idle Part 2 and if that is so it is certainly a more mature version of the song, better topic and lyrics - i think most people are tempted to run from the world they are in at times
(I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine not sure if i prefer the album version to the demo or not yet, both have their charms and as i wrote at the beginning of my review i have no issues with the choir and even the noise at the beginning of the track doesn't take anything from it
AKA... What A Life! this "thumping dance song" is one of my favourites which is quite odd as i tend to prefer Noel's latest works over his rockier numbers because of their generally overall gentler nature but this track gets me in a very positive mood - i shall do as he says and chase down that rainbow, woo-whoo
Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks well i don't like the song title but the topic is a fine one and nice to see noel writing a "protest" song and i like the lyrics for the most part and the instrumentation is nice too on this track
AKA... Broken Arrow apparently inspired by Donovan this track was one i was looking forward too as Donovan is a huge influence on me and i love the lyrics and the songs sound, for me it sounds like Noel is writing more from his soul and deeper feelings on this album
(Stranded On The) Wrong Beach this for me is probably my least favourite song on the album, not to say i hate it or anything but it just does little for me on the whole but another nicely crafted song by Noel and the sound of the waves at the end is a always a lovely sound
Stop The Clocks well this is the song everyone has been waiting for since rumours of it existence appeared long before the demo we are all familiar with and this new version does the hype justice for me, i know Noel stated he messed up recording it doing the backing track in a different key to the one he would ideally of recorded it in - the vocals effects don't anything from the song and neither do any of the instruments either, it's a shame this won't be played live though as even a pure acoustic version would be bliss and i'm sure people wouldn't expect the end of the album version to be replicated live, a lovely closer to a splendid album
well that was my review, let it now be read once or twice and lost amongst the swarm of posts about this album here and elsewhere
i will soon be off to test-drive the album on my ipod as i venture into town to buy the new George Harrison DVD/documentary
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Post by crash on Oct 10, 2011 2:05:50 GMT -5
My first impressions were:
- Each song is a layered soundscape, with choir, strings, horns and harmonies at every turn. Awesome.
- Noel's voice sounds great. Thought I might miss Liam's voice but I didn't at all. See if he can maintain it on tour.
- And most importantly ... CHORUSES. Great choruses. Whether impassioned like Everybody's on the Run or poppy like Broken Arrow, he's back on the melody wagon. Thank god.
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Oct 10, 2011 2:09:51 GMT -5
My first impression is that hopefully now all the bellends on here will crawl back under their rocks.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 2:12:35 GMT -5
Does anyone else like how uplifting this album is, overall? Even songs that I expected to be dreary, like STC, end up being quite happy. This is the most peaceful collection of Noel tunes I've ever heard. It's not dreary at all (like SOTSOG often fell into), which is very nice. It makes me as the listener feel good.
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 10, 2011 2:17:25 GMT -5
It's certainly a weird mixture. The album is about a poor decision and negative experience in one or more person's life (Leaving "someplace" to another place where you think you will be happy, but aren't), but there is a certain existential positivism to it. Classical Noel. That's why he is such an awesome songwriter. A bit of Absurdism in it.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 10, 2011 2:18:49 GMT -5
Only one listen but my feeling was: there's no pause song, if that makes sense, so that's probably good coz it means no filler. A bit like Morning Glory in fact...
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Oct 10, 2011 2:19:05 GMT -5
It's certainly a weird mixture. The song is about a poor decision and negative experience in one or more person's life (Leaving "someplace" to another place where you think you will be happy, but aren't), but there is a certain existential positivism to it. Classical Noel. That's why he is such an awesome songwriter. A bit of Absurdism in it. It's a simple game of genius.  |
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 10, 2011 2:20:10 GMT -5
Just realized I put "song" instead of "album"...time for bed.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 2:29:23 GMT -5
People can continue to adopt the higher-than-all move on and shut up stance on the whole Liam v Noel comparisons saga, but what you have to remember is that most of the songs on Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds were originally intended and written for Oasis. Thus, we are more than warranted to discuss what Liam would have brought to the table on this collection of songs. This is a Noel album, but written in the same shadow and demographic as Oasis. It is very much in the same context and is thus very comparable. His next album with AA will be a different story and more separated from and probably without any links to Oasis. That will be the first real Noel album that is independant from his previous work. There will be no discussions of Liam there becasue it will be a completely different context, but this album here as the last outpost of songs written for Oasis, is crying out for comparisons and discussions to Liam. Get over it. THIS |
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 2:31:38 GMT -5
It's certainly a weird mixture. The album is about a poor decision and negative experience in one or more person's life (Leaving "someplace" to another place where you think you will be happy, but aren't), but there is a certain existential positivism to it. Classical Noel. That's why he is such an awesome songwriter. A bit of Absurdism in it. That's true... a lot of the lyrics can be quite melancholy when you get down to the nitty gritty... but you don't even notice because the melodies and the way he sings it just sounds so positive. It adds more depth to it than just having a simple "happy" song or "sad" song like some artists do. Well done Noel. |
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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 10, 2011 2:51:11 GMT -5
It's certainly a weird mixture. The album is about a poor decision and negative experience in one or more person's life (Leaving "someplace" to another place where you think you will be happy, but aren't), but there is a certain existential positivism to it. Classical Noel. That's why he is such an awesome songwriter. A bit of Absurdism in it. That's true... a lot of the lyrics can be quite melancholy when you get down to the nitty gritty... but you don't even notice because the melodies and the way he sings it just sounds so positive. It adds more depth to it than just having a simple "happy" song or "sad" song like some artists do. Well done Noel. This has always been Noel's trademark. I mean, look at Fade Away (original Liam-sung version). Noel even said in a recent interview that "the melancholy within happiness" is what he tries to convey in his music. |
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Post by crash on Oct 10, 2011 2:52:14 GMT -5
It's certainly a weird mixture. The album is about a poor decision and negative experience in one or more person's life (Leaving "someplace" to another place where you think you will be happy, but aren't), but there is a certain existential positivism to it. Classical Noel. That's why he is such an awesome songwriter. A bit of Absurdism in it. That's true... a lot of the lyrics can be quite melancholy when you get down to the nitty gritty... but you don't even notice because the melodies and the way he sings it just sounds so positive. It adds more depth to it than just having a simple "happy" song or "sad" song like some artists do. Well done Noel. There's something triumphant sounding about the album. Dream On and The Death of You and Me especially. I think it's the combination of the horns, Kinksy drumbeat and Noel's uplifting chorus melodies. The songs flow in a way that most of his best ones do. You get that warm glow and euphoria every time you get to a chorus. |
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 10, 2011 2:55:38 GMT -5
Yeah,...you can go the melancholy within happiness route as well if you want. I think the overarching theme in Noel's music (at least sometimes) is that "The universe is harsh and is beyond my comprehension, but I'm going to live my life in the most triumphant way possible. Fuck off if you don't like it."
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 10, 2011 3:04:09 GMT -5
Sorry guys but EIOTR is just a B-side very well disguised with all that production. The album for me is 7/10 Im outta time and WIGWAM are imo, better than any song on this album, and Liam didn't need a choir. Stupidest paragraph ever |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 10, 2011 3:18:21 GMT -5
Am i the only one who finds fuckin annoying lgfaver and youandmegirl trying to convince the world that the album is shit?
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Post by adamtj11 on Oct 10, 2011 3:25:19 GMT -5
What's going on? In a lecture but it's shite, NGHFB > education. wish the trolls would go away |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 3:26:27 GMT -5
Am i the only one who finds fuckin annoying lgfaver and youandmegirl trying to convince the world that the album is shit? when did i say the album was shit? LEARN TO READ. If anything, all i've said is the album is very good. Sorry i don't think every single song is awesome and don't rate it a 11/10 like the fanboys are doing. stupid people.... |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 10, 2011 3:26:39 GMT -5
Impressions from first listen yesterday at 3 A.M.
-Blown away by the huge production, Noel´s voice (a little buried sometimes in the mix, but fantastic, can´t understand why some people misses Liam here) and the uplifting sound all the way trough
-Wish Record Machine and Stop the clocks were longer, i always seen them like 7 minute epic songs. On the other hand, this way the album is faster and flows better, like the Beatles used to do
-The "new" songs: Everybody is in the run is a big Noel classic for me, like if i had a gun. Dream on is great too, great melody and trumpets. Jesus Freaks is pure Kinks, i liked it more than i was specting. Broken arrow is great too, a beatiful mix of Wonderwall, Part of the Queue and that unreleased La´s song "Over". The only one i didnt love on first listen is Wrong Beach, but it´s not a bad song at all.
Overall, really impressed. No filler (maybe Wrong Beach a little). I think it´s near Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory, and better than the rest of Oasis and Beady Eye albums. Beatiful!
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 10, 2011 3:29:22 GMT -5
Am i the only one who finds fuckin annoying lgfaver and youandmegirl trying to convince the world that the album is shit? when did i say the album was shit? LEARN TO READ. If anything, all i've said is the album is very good. Sorry i don't think every single song is awesome and don't rate it a 11/10 like the fanboys are doing. stupid people.... Sure, you say the album is great BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT... You only seem to find the bad side of things, and it´s annoying and a fuckin disgrace, man Try to enjoy good things in life a little, for god´s sake PS. And thank you for givin me k- faver, you are a lovely lonely guy |
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Post by d347h1nc on Oct 10, 2011 3:30:02 GMT -5
I dig it a lot. While im not going to sit here and completely discard DGSS like some folks are doing I will say I think this album is in a league of its own in comparison.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 3:37:12 GMT -5
when did i say the album was shit? LEARN TO READ. If anything, all i've said is the album is very good. Sorry i don't think every single song is awesome and don't rate it a 11/10 like the fanboys are doing. stupid people.... Sure, you say the album is great BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT... You only seem to find the bad side of things, and it´s annoying and a fuckin disgrace, man Try to enjoy good things in life a little, for god´s sake PS. And thank you for givin me k- faver, you are a lovely lonely guy it's called REVIEWING and ANALIZING an album. I can't be a fucking blind sheep and call everything the man does great, because i have a brain of my own and i'm an objective person. I can be a fan, but i'll never be a fanboy. those people are just downright sad. saying something is good but mentioning the flaws it has does not mean i think "that something" is shit, like you put it. |
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