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Post by SunshineLullaby on Aug 31, 2011 15:51:40 GMT -5
You, like many members of this forum, will never understand the difference between fact and opinion. Stop thinking that people are giving it a 10/10 because they're wearing "Noel-tinted glasses". People are giving it that because it's a fucking great song. I've played this song for various people and haven't heard a negative (or even neutral) reaction yet. Some people are givin' it 10/10 cos it's Noel that wrote it, simple as that. Serious question: are you a mind reader? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 31, 2011 16:04:35 GMT -5
You're right music is subjective up to a point, but would you be comfortable with this sitting along side Stairway To Heaven, Gimmie Shelter, Like A Rolling Stone, Yesterday, Live Forever? Really? I can understand people loving this song, giving it 9.75 or whatever but a perfect score? One of the greatest songs of all time? I personally don't think so, not even close. It's not subjective "to a point". It's subjective. Period. There's no way to "objectively" judge music. You picked some good classic songs, but music is all about the listener in the end. IIHAG connects with me more than most of the songs you listed. Does that make it better? No, it doesn't. It's not worse, either. For example, if some kid wants to give a Justin Bieber tune 10/10 and Thirteen by Big Star 0/10, that's fine by me. I may not be able to understand a point of view like that, but it's all up to the listener. That's what makes music so beautiful, in my opinion. Music like other art forms is a about being creative. How is putting a young kid in front of mic with a backing created in two mins on a computer to create a song purely for financial gain creative? I think in that case you can be objective about music and say its bad. |
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Post by Praetor on Aug 31, 2011 16:09:24 GMT -5
Bit of a logical fallacy here. If people were ranking IIHAG 10/10 because Noel wrote it, they would also be ranking TDOYAM 10/10, the Good Rebel 10/10, and Digsy's Dinner 10/10.
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 16:11:47 GMT -5
This song is gonna be amazing on the cd version
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 31, 2011 16:15:36 GMT -5
This song is gonna be amazing on the cd version can't wait to hear it properly on CD & through my headphones  |
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 16:21:44 GMT -5
This song is gonna be amazing on the cd version can't wait to hear it properly on CD & through my headphones Yes ! but anyway... this song is just wonderfull in bad quality... can imagine when I will have to listen the real guitar and drum sound... |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Aug 31, 2011 16:34:56 GMT -5
Bit of a logical fallacy here. If people were ranking IIHAG 10/10 because Noel wrote it, they would also be ranking TDOYAM 10/10, the Good Rebel 10/10, and Digsy's Dinner 10/10. Absolutely right. Noel Gallagher wrote it and that's the main reason why it's great. I think at a high percentage we're all members of this forum because we love Noel Gallagher's style of songwriting, thus his songs! Except maybe for Beadyeyeunofficial, who's only here for Little James  |
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 16:46:58 GMT -5
I dont hate Beady Eye... I just think it was a better idea for Liam to restart something totally different (example : with death in vegas)... All those ancient memebers dont assume Oasis, Noel does it. And in term of songwriting, whaterver Liam said... Noel was the boss and the professional.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 31, 2011 17:14:05 GMT -5
Is Level 02 Curlies? If so that means I can ignore all the shite he's talking about Liam singing this.
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 17:16:10 GMT -5
Is Level 02 Curlies? If so that means I can ignore all the shite he's talking about Liam singing this. Yes, and sorry could be epic to heard Liam in a studio version of this song... but end of the debat. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 31, 2011 17:18:33 GMT -5
Alright. I can remember to ignore you in future then.
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 17:20:17 GMT -5
The "Waiting tomorrow" and "seeeeeeeeeeeeee" part are epic
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Post by ceskojr on Aug 31, 2011 17:23:47 GMT -5
listening after IIHAG to TDOYAM is great. Because of IIHAG I'm loving TDOYAM even more...they are one after another just great.
and another thing, maybe someone else already notice but original title is "If I Had A Gun..." with three dots after name
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 17:27:43 GMT -5
Right
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 17:29:39 GMT -5
Solid 8 at least. I like Beady Eye but Noel's pissing all over them at the moment.
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Post by mememe26 on Aug 31, 2011 17:34:15 GMT -5
Some people are givin' it 10/10 cos it's Noel that wrote it, simple as that. Serious question: are you a mind reader? Let's be honest it's not a serious question. It's my opininon. |
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 18:18:12 GMT -5
Solid 8 at least. I like Beady Eye but Noel's pissing all over them at the moment. He is just saying, I was the songwriter.... 3 songs absolutely amazing... |
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Post by Level 03 on Aug 31, 2011 18:44:26 GMT -5
This song could fit easly in the tracklisting of the 3 first Oasis's albums and the Masterplan of course.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 31, 2011 20:34:06 GMT -5
You need to take it down to Level 01, dude.
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Post by NYR on Aug 31, 2011 20:35:36 GMT -5
i liked it. did i love it? not yet. many of noel's most recent songs have been growers, so who knows.
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Post by Praetor on Aug 31, 2011 23:12:14 GMT -5
Solid 8 at least. I like Beady Eye but Noel's pissing all over them at the moment. With the exception of In a Bubble With a Bullet, I agree with you. But I personally think that song is better than TDOYAM, but not quite at the level of IIHAG. IIHAG - 9 IABWAB- 8.5 TDOYAM - 8 TGR - 7 |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Sept 1, 2011 0:19:39 GMT -5
I'm not one to proclaim it as the best song ever.
And I'm not sure if it sounds better or worse because its new, and it's Noel. (It has grown on me in the past day).
My verdict at the moment is that -
This is Slide Away. But for Noel.
(Yeah, Liam songs edge it out for me, but fucking Slide Away, not bad going Noel!)
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Post by matt7k on Sept 1, 2011 3:25:05 GMT -5
Its a 9/10 for me. This is the first time I've heard it, never heard the earlier versions of it. I think its beautiful. I can't wait for it to start growing on me.
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Post by electricmaster on Sept 1, 2011 6:31:54 GMT -5
I really wish the backing harmonies were louder, cos that's what Noel does best! I hope you can hear them clearer on the cd quality version.
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Post by kimallenbewick on Sept 1, 2011 6:35:20 GMT -5
Love it! Great song. I don't think it's Noel's best anyway...
I'd say it's 8 or 9 but not 10.
I still think I'll like Record Machine more.
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