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Post by space75gr on Jul 12, 2011 14:05:12 GMT -5
it hurts me to see negative comments from both brothers...
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 12, 2011 17:16:09 GMT -5
I don't think I am an apologist because I say my opinion about something. If I believe one of them and I say it, that makes me an apologist? If there's a proof I'm wrong, I won't keep saying I was right...
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Post by thuperthonic on Jul 12, 2011 18:25:01 GMT -5
I don't know what to believe anymore.
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Post by manualex on Jul 12, 2011 18:34:29 GMT -5
Why does this thread remembers me about this?
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Post by songbird11 on Jul 12, 2011 18:54:13 GMT -5
Let's just get right to the point ... what did noel say which got liam so angry he was gonna swing the guitar at him?? that's all we need to know,maybe sumat about nicole?? it's as simple as that,or sumat about his kids.
i doubt anything said about the band or playing the gig would've got liam soooo angry.
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Post by ToneBender on Jul 12, 2011 19:54:41 GMT -5
I seem to recall that Liam said Noel made some snide comment about his guitar playing since Liam was presumably going to warm up in his dressing room with his guitar. Perhaps Noel added in something about Nicole in the process (since she gave him the guitar). Can't imagine anything else that would set him off to that extent otherwise...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2011 20:42:46 GMT -5
Let's just get right to the point ... what did noel say which got liam so angry he was gonna swing the guitar at him?? that's all we need to know,maybe sumat about nicole?? it's as simple as that,or sumat about his kids. i doubt anything said about the band or playing the gig would've got liam soooo angry. When you're drunk, it may not take much at all......
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Post by BlueJay on Jul 13, 2011 0:09:45 GMT -5
^Where's the evidence that Liam was drunk. Aren't people just assuming that he was?
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Post by GIMH on Jul 13, 2011 0:45:35 GMT -5
Noel implied it didn't he?
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jul 13, 2011 4:09:21 GMT -5
At somerset house last night Liam, instead of singing 'blinded by what you idolise' sung 'blinded by your fucking lies'!!
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Post by lainie on Jul 13, 2011 6:09:00 GMT -5
^^ LOL Liams such an emotional wreck sometimes I love it
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 13, 2011 11:24:14 GMT -5
Also, what do you expect Liam so say? Whether or not Noel was telling the 100% truth, so you really think Liam would either:
a. Ignore it,
or
b. Admit to Noel's claim?
No. He would categorically deny it regardless....
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Post by J.B on Jul 13, 2011 11:34:08 GMT -5
If Liam was pissed then Noel would have said seeing as he said that he was just hungover.
I agree regarding Noel making a personal comment to Liam. That part of the story never really rang true to me as I can't see anyone being able to sustain such rage without further provocation. If Noel was just standing there saying nothing or telling him to fuck off then Liam would have chucked the plum and not come back rather than going all the way to his dressing room to get the guitar.
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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 13, 2011 12:08:59 GMT -5
So now we have Liam, Andy, Gem and Paul all calling Noel's recollection of the events incorrect? But people continue to believe that Liam is lying? Does Peggy Gallagher have to come on this board and say otherwise? Geez. & It's also worth noting that Paul was at the gig in Paris. If he didn't step in, I don't know how Noel can blame Andy. & The facebook proof by Paul Gallagher. I don't know whether Paul was best mates with either Liam or Noel before the split, but he certainly is on Liams side since the split. I can confirm the facebook post is real and it's not the first one in which he is showing his feelings about it all. And there have come some more reactions on it since it was posted on here, one of which asking if Paul thinks Noel was lying. Paul just answered 'read the above' so again, I think it's pretty clear.. I can't understand how some people still blindly follow wathever god/chief Noel says Edit: I just wanna add that half of the people who defend Noel in this thread and think he's telling the truth because he sounds genuine etc are saying in the other thread about the 'no guitar solo until track 6' that you shouldn't believe whatever Noel says cause we all know he talks shit most of the time.
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Post by thuperthonic on Jul 13, 2011 12:39:50 GMT -5
All valid points, Sally, but it would still be astonishing to me if Noel just made that Pretty Green story up out of thin air. Why on Earth would he do that? Surely he must know he'll get found out? There *must* be *something* to it. Hard for me to believe otherwise, despite Liam's seemingly earnest response.
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Post by songbirdsally on Jul 13, 2011 13:08:05 GMT -5
All valid points, Sally, but it would still be astonishing to me if Noel just made that Pretty Green story up out of thin air. Why on Earth would he do that? Surely he must know he'll get found out? There *must* be *something* to it. Hard for me to believe otherwise, despite Liam's seemingly earnest response. I'm not saying that everything Noel says is a lie. There's probably truth to it but he just turns and twists everything to fit his own story. About the Pretty Green thing: True or not I don't think PG advertising belongs in an Oasis booklet but I don't think it's a big deal either. And even I got annoyed when Noel said (at the PC) how he said to Liam "How much do you are you gonna pay me then?". I'm pretty sure they had discussions over it though, and I do believe that it was part of the friction between them on the last tour like Noel said. It doesn't have anything to do with the final argument however! I think Noel was just looking for something he could mention and something that a lot of fans would buy into.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 13, 2011 13:52:04 GMT -5
Also, what do you expect Liam so say? Whether or not Noel was telling the 100% truth, so you really think Liam would either: a. Ignore it, or b. Admit to Noel's claim? No. He would categorically deny it regardless.... Also, what do you expect Noel to say? Whether or not Liam was telling the 100% truth, so you really think Noel would either: a. Ignore it, or b. Admit to Liam's claim? No. He would categorically deny it regardless....
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Post by shaokahnage on Jul 13, 2011 14:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by songbird11 on Jul 13, 2011 15:50:15 GMT -5
In a way i do believe Liam ... a lot of non oasis fans will just wait for noel's side & believe him as most of em hate liam.Liam does seem the kind to admit when he's wrong.In a few weeks im sure noel will be interviewed by someone letting him know liam calls him a liar etc ... then he'll have to say more ... all this could go on forever.
Only way we'll ever know is if .. in 10 years gem,andy & chris are still with liam,then we'll know it was all down to noel why every1 else left.
''i wish i were a blur fan,i doubt any of their discussions have been this mad'' lol.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Jul 13, 2011 15:52:22 GMT -5
Paul Gallagher is on facebook? Does anyone have a link? I can't find him. Cheers.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 13, 2011 16:31:01 GMT -5
Liam's been lying about not drinking since New Years. Who knows what else he is willing to lie about to make himself seem better. @ least as much as Noel IMO.
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Post by songbird11 on Jul 13, 2011 17:22:44 GMT -5
he probably said that jokingly to alan carr that he hadn't drank since christmas,i reckon he's just cut down.... that cant harm anybody though like the lies noel has told about the break up which was more serious.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 13, 2011 17:27:24 GMT -5
Liam's been lying about not drinking since New Years. Who knows what else he is willing to lie about to make himself seem better. @ least as much as Noel IMO. Still waiting for you to explain how I am stupid and a moron in the Closure thread by the way.
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 13, 2011 17:29:11 GMT -5
Noel never said PG was the reason of the fight THAT NIGHT. He said they had had a fight about that before so things were bad before that night in Paris. Same thing with the press story. Noel didn't say why Liam came up with a guitar so he's not lying about that cause he didn't say it. Of course Noel must said something like a personal comment or something about the family, etc. None of them are going to tell us what was that about so who cares? I do believe Noel's rest of the story anyway. Of course he may add things to make it more favorable for him but Liam did the same.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 13, 2011 17:29:52 GMT -5
I'd get your sleeping bag out mate, it might be a while.
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