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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2011 17:28:09 GMT -5
I'll answer my own question with my opinion (I just thought this would be a good topic).
My feeling is two fold:
1. Noel wrote the majority of Oasis songs, so they are essentially his, his work, and his creation. [But then, why don't we want BDI to play LAG songs from Oasis?]
2. Noel has performed Oasis songs on his own (with Gem, of course) a few times now. So perhaps we're used to the concept. Plus, he brings a varied approach to the performances compared to with Oasis.
I don't know. I have no problem with Noel performing Oasis songs, and actually want him to and I think he will. But I, along with most again, don't want BDI to touch anything Oasis related. It just wouldn't feel right.
Thought it would be good to muse about the discrepancy and inconsistency regarding this concept.
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Post by deasy on Apr 11, 2011 17:30:07 GMT -5
Nobody can't do anything. Beady Eye decided not to.
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Post by BEng on Apr 11, 2011 17:37:05 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Noel's going to play some Oasis tunes. Probably not songs like TSOTL, but he'll most certainly play songs like DLBIA, HTWA, etc.... Not to sure about songs like Listen Up, but he'll probably even also play these.
And indeed, Beady Eye shouldn't be playing any tunes from Noel, but I wouldn't mind them playing Gem/Andy/Liam songs like TUTS for example. I think it's a shame they don't play these...
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Post by gdforever on Apr 11, 2011 17:46:36 GMT -5
I don't want him to. But that is just me. He free to do whatever he wants though and I think ppl will respect it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2011 17:52:21 GMT -5
Nobody can't do anything. Beady Eye decided not to. Maybe bad diction on my part, but that's not what I meant. I meant that us fans overall dont want BDI to play Oasis songs, but most of us support Noel doing so. |
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Post by deasy on Apr 11, 2011 17:54:27 GMT -5
Nobody can't do anything. Beady Eye decided not to. Maybe bad diction on my part, but that's not what I meant. I meant that us fans overall dont want BDI to play Oasis songs, but most of us support Noel doing so. Sorry I looked at your post from the wrong angle  |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Apr 11, 2011 18:19:41 GMT -5
good question...
i don't know, obviously Noel wrote those songs but to me, they are OASIS SONGS, not just "Noel's". sometimes it kinda pissses me off when i read what some Noel-only fans post on here and other forums but whatever...
i think it's so cool of Liam to show that kind of respect for what was his band and not play any of the songs that have anything to do with the Oasis name. Should Noel do the same? i don't know. I think it would also be so big of him to make such a gesture but i don't think Noel really gives a fuck about that. In his head he's probably like "They're my songs, fuck'em" and I can't really get mad at the guy for thinking that way, even if i don't like it.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 18:48:24 GMT -5
I bet Noel plays no songs that he's never sung before (Oasis-wise). Thing is, he's performed a lot of them prior when Liam would have his hissy fits and walk off.
I wouldn't give a shit if Beady Eye chose to perform Oasis songs provided they weren't Noel tunes or songs that featured Noel in any role (i.e. backing vocals). If they wanted to do Love Like A Bomb or anything like that, I wouldnt care. If Noel wrote it, I think I would care more.
I doubt we will see Noel performing many Oasis songs. I think a couple are probable, but it won't be many.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 11, 2011 19:40:16 GMT -5
good question... i don't know, obviously Noel wrote those songs but to me, they are OASIS SONGS, not just "Noel's". sometimes it kinda pissses me off when i read what some Noel-only fans post on here and other forums but whatever... i think it's so cool of Liam to show that kind of respect for what was his band and not play any of the songs that have anything to do with the Oasis name. Should Noel do the same? i don't know. I think it would also be so big of him to make such a gesture but i don't think Noel really gives a fuck about that. In his head he's probably like "They're my songs, fuck'em" and I can't really get mad at the guy for thinking that way, even if i don't like it. I don't think that its necessarily respect for what he did with Oasis that keeps him from playing Oasis songs, I think it has more to do with him trying to get away from the Oasis brand. (though that doesn't mean that he doesn't have respect for what he and Oasis accomplished). But I don't think that the respect for Oasis is the true reason that they won't play Oasis songs. I think its just a natural thing for a band to do when they're trying to come out from behind the shadows. |
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 11, 2011 22:13:00 GMT -5
You're over-thinking it. The band would just feel weird playing Noel written songs without Noel there.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 22:25:16 GMT -5
You're over-thinking it. The band would just feel weird playing Noel written songs without Noel there. I think that's painting almost too broad of a brush. The only reason they would feel weird (namely Liam) is because he has a beef with his brother right now and both seemingly feel slighted by all of this that has gone down. If your brother had written all of the songs that made you famous in the first place would you want to continue singing his words? Would you not want to make a name for yourself outside of his shadow? Its a safe bet that is an underlying aspect to all of this in respects to Beady Eye's decision. It'd also not be surprising if Gem and Andy feel the same way, especially since they used to lead their own bands and one of em (Ride) was moderately successful on its own. Then again, it could all be an elaborate ploy by the brothers who agreed to do something different for a few years before a big fuck-all reunion moneygrab. |
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Post by jilliam on Apr 12, 2011 0:18:24 GMT -5
I don't want him to. But that is just me. He free to do whatever he wants though and I think ppl will respect it. That's just me as well. I sure hope he doesn't. oasis has been put to rest by both if them, Noel when he walked out and Liam when he said he wouldn't play it. Next time I wanna them tunes played live again is when their back together. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 12, 2011 0:27:24 GMT -5
I don't want him to. But that is just me. He free to do whatever he wants though and I think ppl will respect it. That's just me as well. I sure hope he doesn't. oasis has been put to rest by both if them, Noel when he walked out and Liam when he said he wouldn't play it. Next time I wanna them tunes played live again is when their back together. I would like to think that he could get away with that, but its gonna be pretty hard. DLBIA is so associated with him, that I think that he almost has to play that one. I wouldn't mind it if he did a set list and it had maybe 1 or 2 Oasis tracks in it. Mainly because I think a lot of audiences will expect him to play either WW or DLBIA. So I wouldn't blame him if he did that. But if he somehow had a set list of say 15 songs, and 6-9 were Oasis, then I'd be pretty pissed. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 12, 2011 1:10:15 GMT -5
Maybe bad diction on my part, but that's not what I meant. I meant that us fans overall dont want BDI to play Oasis songs, but most of us support Noel doing so. Hmm, I think this was only after we heard Beady Eye's songs right? And the first few gigs? There were loads of people that wanted to hear Songbird, IOT, ... and loads of interviewers asking Beady Eye about it.. I don't want Beady Eye to do Oasis songs. Maybe they can sneak in a 'Sonbird' or 'IOT' on a festival, or on the next tour or something, but it should never be more then 2 songs / set. And for me, the same goes for Noel. I hope he will make a brilliant album and starts his first gigs without Oasis songs to rely on. IMO, those who want Noel to sing Oasis songs, just ignore the past and just want Oasis. (But I would have to admit, I would happily pay to go to those gigs as well  ) |
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Post by manualex on Apr 12, 2011 1:13:32 GMT -5
Maybe bad diction on my part, but that's not what I meant. I meant that us fans overall dont want BDI to play Oasis songs, but most of us support Noel doing so. Hmm, I think this was only after we heard Beady Eye's songs right? And the first few gigs? There were loads of people that wanted to hear Songbird, IOT, ... and loads of interviewers asking Beady Eye about it.. I don't want Beady Eye to do Oasis songs. Maybe they can sneak in a 'Sonbird' or 'IOT' on a festival, or on the next tour or something, but it should never be more then 2 songs / set. And for me, the same goes for Noel. I hope he will make a brilliant album and starts his first gigs without Oasis songs to rely on. IMO, those who want Noel to sing Oasis songs, just ignore the past and just want Oasis. (But I would have to admit, I would happily pay to go to those gigs as well ) But what if Noel pulls out some dust of some B-sides like LAMB, One Way Road, Ilders Dream that werent played by Oasis live? that would be a thing i would look foward to. |
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Post by rick88 on Apr 12, 2011 5:45:04 GMT -5
Who knows Noel will play them? In my opinion it would be fair enough if he decided he wanted to play songs he wrote. In the same way I think it's fair if BDI wanted to play songs they wrote then that's fair. But could you see Noel singing Songbird?
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 12, 2011 5:52:03 GMT -5
^well not songbird ofcourse Like if Noel would EVER (even in Oasis) sing a Liam written tune  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 5:54:25 GMT -5
They're his songs, he can do whatever he wants.
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Post by bonkers on Apr 12, 2011 6:29:28 GMT -5
i don't think he will play any Oasis songs at least not to start off with. If he wants people to recognise his solo work he will concentrate on playing those. If he is doing a gig and people start shouting for Live Forever and DLBIA i think he will just get the hump. Oasis is in the past now, Liam sees it that way and im sure Noel does as well.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 12, 2011 6:35:06 GMT -5
Noel gave the birth to most Oasis songs, that's why.
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Post by ToneBender on Apr 12, 2011 7:14:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Noel playing the songs as a one-off "Storytellers" type of show, but other than that, I'd really like to hear new songs and nothing else. After 18 years I'm sure he'd rather play new music as well.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 12, 2011 7:22:05 GMT -5
It's simple for me - BDI would only ever play their own songs, and those were only the weaker Oasis songs most of the time. If they started playing KTDA or IOT they would seem like a cheap Oasis copy - Oasis without Noel, playing their old songs but lacking the genius of Noel's masterpieces.
Noel, on the other hand, could play all his hits. I wouldn't say BDI's stuff is necessarily better than the non-Noel Oasis tunes...but DLBIA or Live Forever are always good enough to be played live.
And I really, really don't know why people hope he will play less-known Oasis songs live...if he really goes for his old stuff, people will be pissed not to hear the big songs in favor of the likes of One Way Road.
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Post by holidayinthesun on Apr 12, 2011 7:22:25 GMT -5
I'd like to hear Oasis songs from both bands, why not. There is no guarantee that there will ever be a reunion, and they are great songs, so I'd enjoy any song sung by either Noel or BDI. Of course, I love the BDI songs as much or more than many Oasis songs so I'm not complaining.
That being said, I don't get how Liam carries on adamantly about BDI not playing Oasis songs because BDI is a new band, a new identity, a brand new project and era... but yet more than one of the tunes on the album were (non-Noel, obviously) Oasis songs that hadn't been properly recorded, released or played live. So, the Oasis background is still there regardless of how much he'd like to distance his band and songs from it.
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 12, 2011 10:00:04 GMT -5
What's stopping Noel from playing a song like Half the World Away or Talk Tonight live? It's just him and an acoustic guitar...there's no 'Oasis' influence there.
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Post by wooboos on Apr 12, 2011 10:28:14 GMT -5
Noel may not tour as extensively as BDI, if that is the case, demand therefore prices will be higher. I think if you are paying £60-£70 quid to see noel, there will be an expectancy for him to play a handful of his oasis tunes. We will see what he says around the time of the tour, if he isnt going to play any, i would expect tour promo to state so. but with a solo album of just 10-12 songs, you would expect him to chuck in a 3 or 4 oasis tunes.
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