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Post by timekeeper on Apr 4, 2011 19:48:49 GMT -5
Hey sourmash,
Have you ever heard of the legends Jamie (who leaked Stop the Clocks), Pete Bones (who opened the Oasis Mafia Board) Lomax (who refused to leak Stop the Clocks live), or Rolli (who stuck his foot in his mouth by claiming Noel would play a show in Milwaukee)?
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 4, 2011 19:50:52 GMT -5
cant say I have im afraid
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 4, 2011 19:51:41 GMT -5
That's too bad. They are legends.
Any insight as to whether or not Stop the Clocks was recorded for the album?
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 4, 2011 19:53:40 GMT -5
it has been suggested to him that he rethinks what he finally releases! I do know the original sessions with AA were really not sounding very good! This is what worries me. Noel can go as experimental as he wants but there's no point polishing something that wasn't good to begin with. He better not release anything until he's 100% satisfied with the finished product and he's convinced it's his very best work. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 4, 2011 19:53:33 GMT -5
That's too bad. They are legends. Any insight as to whether or not Stop the Clocks was recorded for the album? Common sense from the man's description makes it clear that it wasn't.  |
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 4, 2011 19:54:08 GMT -5
well that song wasnt recorded for the solo album, no! He doesnt think like that! He writes songs and whatever ones he has at the time, thats what goes on the album! Its always been that way, he doesnt think about concepts and plans! He just does it!
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Post by manualex on Apr 4, 2011 19:57:10 GMT -5
well that song wasnt recorded for the solo album, no! He doesnt think like that! He writes songs and whatever ones he has at the time, thats what goes on the album! Its always been that way, he doesnt think about concepts and plans! He just does it! But wasnt DOYS a loose concept album about the apocalypse? |
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Post by timekeeper on Apr 4, 2011 19:57:20 GMT -5
So what you are saying is his album will basically be all brand new songs we have never heard titles of, leaked versions of, or soundchecks of? That's too bad because we were hoping for Stop the Clocks, Record Machine, and Come On It's Alright.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 4, 2011 19:58:52 GMT -5
My ears have been burning, so though I would sign up and say hello! I'm sourmashmusic and I seem to be the the topic of conversation at the moment! So where to start! Info is Noel is in LA, but you all knew that anyway! Reason why he is there!! Now that is another interesting story. He is definitely working with Amorphous Androgynous, has been since last year. The album was finished then too, but the interesting part is why he is still doing it! His "people" ie Ignition/Marcus Russell have not liked any of the material he has done with AA. They have convinced him to do rein it in and release something more commercial! Hence why he is in LA to theoretically get away from his management. He is in the studio with them and Sardy and basically remixing and doing overdubs for it. The album was complete a while ago, so much so I know for a fact there are 2 albums worth of material now!!! (but again thats old news!) I was also the guy that broke the news about him working with The Sand Band from Liverpool! Which is also true and they will eventually become his touring band! (you will just have to watch this space on that one) I can't obviously convince all of you, but my sources are good and to clear it up, I am not affiliated with Noel and his management, well not really! Anyway, that's all you are getting from me! Look forward to the backlash! Oh, that makes me nervous. Pit in my stomach...god I hope it turns out good. I think he should listen to his management a bit...but correct me if I am wrong...isn't it their place more business and PR related than creative? Why are they getting a say on this @ all. God, I hope that Noel isn't just trying to salvage something not worth salvaging. And I hope this whole session doesn't have to be scrapped like the DIV ones were. Because then we have to wait ages for Noel to take a step back and restart! Had Noel been dissatisfied with the finished project? Do you know? fuck off luddite no one with a ounce of a musical palette wants him to release a dad rock record. we have old school weller for that (stanley road, wildwood, and heavy soul) marcus russell is a moron he was the one who pushed noel to have let there be love on don't believe the truth, did not step in and overrule noel during the overblown be here now sessions, and pushed them into touring commitments when they were on the verge of combusting in 1996. he is also the reason why the british media turned on oasis following be here now. ignition were responsible for that ridiculous embargo that was put in place with the press. hopefully noel listens to sardy, aa, and mcgee who will support noel no matter what he does. |
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 4, 2011 20:00:15 GMT -5
I dont know the tracklisting im afraid! but as soon as I get that info, you will be the first to know! And DOYS was not loosely anything!! He wrote songs for it, and just so happens that a handful of them were about the "Rapture" "End Of The World" type shit! But no concept!
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 4, 2011 20:00:36 GMT -5
So what you are saying is his album will basically be all brand new songs we have never heard titles of, leaked versions of, or soundchecks of? That's too bad because we were hoping for Stop the Clocks, Record Machine, and Come On It's Alright. no we weren't. stop the clocks is over hyped, record machine worked in 1997, and as for come on on it's alright no one even knows what it sounds like. |
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 4, 2011 20:01:56 GMT -5
That's too bad. They are legends. Any insight as to whether or not Stop the Clocks was recorded for the album? Common sense from the man's description makes it clear that it wasn't. No, that's not common sense at all. Stop the Clocks could have been recorded for the album under AA's direction, and it would sound markedly different than the version we know. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's a far cry to say for certain that the song couldn't be on the album in a more experimental style. |
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Post by manualex on Apr 4, 2011 20:02:54 GMT -5
So what you are saying is his album will basically be all brand new songs we have never heard titles of, leaked versions of, or soundchecks of? That's too bad because we were hoping for Stop the Clocks, Record Machine, and Come On It's Alright. no we weren't. stop the clocks is over hyped, record machine worked in 1997, and as for come on on it's alright no one even knows what it sounds like. Yes we do, it sounds like a 6 minute instrumental that someone posted in Turtle ¬¬ |
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Post by bwilder on Apr 4, 2011 20:09:09 GMT -5
Ah, man. I was really hoping the acoustic songs that he was playing at DOYS soundcheck would be the songs on this record. To me, anthemic and pstchedelic (AA) don't really go together. Well, Champagne Supernova did but that was a classic, never to be duplicated.
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Post by Rifles on Apr 4, 2011 20:11:21 GMT -5
What sort of credentials does this sourmash guy have, other than a twitter handle inspired by Noel's record label? He seems to spend every waking minute tweeting his brains out with nothing interesting to say.
I'm just a liiiiiitle skeptical.
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Post by bluemagpie on Apr 4, 2011 20:11:36 GMT -5
to gdforever - not dissatisfied no, reason why he has held it back! He likes what he is doing with AA, but his management/A&R people not so much. Alan McGee has heard this album! He has been quoted as saying it is the most anthemic material he has heard from Noel since WTSMG! This is the album is management want him to release, but Noel has different ideas! I'm a little confused...has McGee heard the AA sessions and called those anthemic, or was he talking about something else? |
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 4, 2011 20:17:55 GMT -5
McGee has heard the original sessions and called them anthemic! It seems like it is only Noel that wants to mix things up a bit, hence working with AA on it! No one else wants him to do it with them. When I say no one, I mean no one! Noel is all alone on his choice to work with AA!!!
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Post by Rifles on Apr 4, 2011 20:24:55 GMT -5
McGee has heard the original sessions and called them anthemic! It seems like it is only Noel that wants to mix things up a bit, hence working with AA on it! No one else wants him to do it with them. When I say no one, I mean no one! Noel is all alone on his choice to work with AA!!! Wow! Tell us more of your tales of adventure from Noel's extreme inner circle! What does Noel eat for breakfast? What color socks does he prefer? Does he like provolone or mozarella? |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 4, 2011 20:31:10 GMT -5
well i just emailed alan and my friend who knows him. i'll let you know what happens.
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 4, 2011 20:38:32 GMT -5
What sort of credentials does this sourmash guy have, other than a twitter handle inspired by Noel's record label? He seems to spend every waking minute tweeting his brains out with nothing interesting to say. I'm just a liiiiiitle skeptical. But his description of the album almost matches jamie's completely...and he has also supposedly heard the album as well. |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 4, 2011 20:39:28 GMT -5
i wouldn't doubt the sourmash guy he has no reason to make up stuff
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Post by Rifles on Apr 4, 2011 20:39:52 GMT -5
well i just emailed alan and my friend who knows him. i'll let you know what happens. Awesome! Man you guys are cool. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 4, 2011 20:41:56 GMT -5
well i just emailed alan and my friend who knows him. i'll let you know what happens. Hopefully he sends an email. Milwaukee is too damn far to wait for post...... |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 4, 2011 20:43:53 GMT -5
What sort of credentials does this sourmash guy have, other than a twitter handle inspired by Noel's record label? He seems to spend every waking minute tweeting his brains out with nothing interesting to say. I'm just a liiiiiitle skeptical. But his description of the album almost matches jamie's completely...and he has also supposedly heard the album as well. He doesn't have a desciption... |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 4, 2011 20:50:27 GMT -5
McGee has heard the original sessions and called them anthemic! It seems like it is only Noel that wants to mix things up a bit, hence working with AA on it! No one else wants him to do it with them. When I say no one, I mean no one! Noel is all alone on his choice to work with AA!!! My gut feeling is that Noel will bend. I think in the back of Noel's mind, he knows that the AA thing isn't working and LA is a last ditch effort to try and salvage it. I think if he leaves LA and has any sort of notion that it just won't work, I think he'll go with the athemic. (that's me as a fan. As a musician, I think he should follow his gut and do what he thinks is right. In the end, all I want is good songs) Can sourmash confirm this. Is LA just a last ditch effort, and if it doesn't work then he'll go with the anthemic back up plan? Or do you think that Noel will try and salvage what he can and only take a few select songs and mix it in with the anthemic? Like with DIV. I think anyone who is getting worried is being a bit of an idiot. Not to be a dick, but none of us have heard any songs. And all of are hearing anthemic, but for all we know those songs could be like LBL. We don't know anything. Were getting third party sources with conjecture. And what Marcus/McGee wants, doesn't matter. I trust that Noel, in the end will do the right thing. And that's follow his gut. I could give 2 shits if it appeals to the rest of the Oasis base. I want good songs. Whether it appeals to the Oasis base or not, I don't care. No one on here has heard a single note, yet people are already getting worried some how? All I know is that usually when a artist starts trying to please a base, BAD things happen. Noel will do the right thing and follow his gut. In the end, that's all that matters. Right now, it seems as if Noel is exploring things. It seems as if he has not made a final decision. And again, none of us have heard a single note. We're hearing descriptions from third party sources. We're trying to complete a puzzle with missing pieces, and worst yet, we don't know what the puzzle is even suppose to look like. |
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