Spaneli, what do you expect us to do? We can only speculate based on the information presented to us. That's all this is, is speculation. If Noel's management and other people close to him don't think that it sounds good at all, then why should we as fans not be concerned? Why would that be seen as something positive?

We don't any of that for sure. We have third party answers. All we know is that MCGee says that he heard the album and that's it. The rest is unconfirmed. I need to hear more sources before I'm going to starting running around like a chicken, with it's head cut off.

Can't believe I'm agreeing with you, but you're right.

Even if this is right. A&R people and McGee don't make music. Do they. It's not like the are all knowing of how music should sound. And again, were dealing hear say, conjecture, rumors. There has been nothing even close to substantial.

People are reacting to shadows on the wall, without knowing what the shadow is.

I hate to be a party pooper...but sourmashmusic hasn't heard it. He has heard through sources that Ignition/Marcus didn't like the original product. All he has said about the sound of it is that Noel is going for something psychedelic. Which could already be assumed by A) the involvement of AA and B) the general direction of Noel on the last album.

When sourmashmusic said it was going to be anthemic what he actually said was that Alan McGee was QUOTED as saying it was going to be anthemic. We all read that quote ages ago, the one about "anthems as good as LF and DLBIA"

All that we can take from this new information is that Noel is in LA working with AA and Sardy and that the management hasn't been happy with the project up to this point.

But I agree that there is no point questioning the validity of his sources. He has the trust of @oasisnews (who someone said was the person that leaked DBTT if I remember correctly) so he's a pretty good bet.

Sourmashmusic doesn't actually have a lot to say about the music though. There is no point reading too much into this.

Maybe the reason that people make these statements about a record before it's released is because they don't listen to it every day for a month and analyze it with 20 other people on a web forum after each listen? Maybe they just enjoy the music and make up their mind based on their initial reaction outside of the echo chamber.

this is the person that leaked don't believe the truth.

Stupid question :
How can we have a planned release date (close, so close) for single and album when Noel could be in the middle of a battle with his management ?

no i meant me. i am the person that leaked don't believe the truth.

I literally don't know.

The first single is suppose to be released around August, with the album around September. Technically, the latest that Noel can be done with an album is somewhere in mid-May. Because he has to do cover art, maybe reserve a slot for release etc.

You're definitely wining the metaphor game tonight

While I admit hearing about the management's disapproval of the AA sessions worries me a bit, I'm willing to trust that Noel will make the right calls creatively. At the end of the day, we all know he's a truly gifted songwriter and as has been mentioned before he'll have written all the material for this album on an acoustic guitar. The songs will be there, which is something that can't be said for Beady Eye. As for what he does to them afterward -- it won't be what we're used to hearing from him, but the core will be there, and that's enough to keep me satisfied until we hear the album. And of course it helps that I love the AA mix of Falling Down.

But somebody on here HAS *allegedly* heard the album...just read oneexcitedyoungmanfan's posts. And he did not like it.

But yes if you don't want to trust anyone's opinions of the album until you're listening to it yourself, that's fine with me.

Yeah, but this management. A&R. Their job is to make sure that Noel puts the best foot forward that he can commercially. But just because something is geared toward being commercial, doesn't mean that it's bad. Right now were going with the premise that Management doesn't want the album because it's not as commercial. But that doesn't mean that the songs that he has are bad.

I get that Noel maybe not feeling fully confident about an album doesn't bode well, but in the end, Noel was fully confident in BHN, SOTSOG, and HC. Where did those go.

His management didn't step into either one of those. Now we're suppose to believe that they have the golden ear.

Noel in the end will follow his gut. And that's all that really matters. And again, do we know if he's re-doing the entire album. Or just certain songs. Do we know how good the anthemic songs are. Like I said before, for all we know it could be a repeat of LBL.