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Post by BEng on Jan 4, 2011 18:06:58 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher: I've Heard (Noels) New Record - I F#cking Sung On Half Of It
Liam Gallagher has told Uncut that he does not know anything about his brother's solo project, as he has not seen him or spoke to him since Oasis split in Paris in August 2009.
Speaking on his brothers future plans he said "It's all very hush-hush 'round his camp. I put up with 18 years of that fucker so I'm arsed what he's doing. I'm sure it will be all very civilised and grown-up. One of those gigs you can really stroke your chin at. With four rent-a-Scousers wearing shell-suits. This is the whole fucking myth, mate. Me and him never really spent any time with each other. He did the soundcheck. I walked onstage, had it, went backstage, had a drink. He'd go to his room... fuck knows what he'd get up to there, probably putting women's clothes on.
I've heard his fucking new record 'cos I fucking sung on half of it. When I was in America for Dig Out Your Soul. And he swiped some off 'cos he obviously knew he wanted to do a solo album. So he can talk all the bullshit about "Oh, I was intimidated," and all that. Fucking nonsense. Behave. He knows. The people know. And I know. So no - it's not better. And it won't get any fucking better.
Man, just 'cos someone else wasn't having a good time in Oasis... there was good times to be had. I had a fucking great time. But the bigger you get the harder it is to move and groove. People expect this or that so it's hard to nip about. Now we're like a little Mini. We can dart about a bit more. Before, we were just a big fucking fat Bentley - it might feel nice but it's fucking hard work to drive. The reason we're doing this is 'cos we wanna do it, not 'cos we have to. I've got fuck all to prove. We've made an album and the next thing to do is play it to the people. I don't beg anyone to listen to it. I don't beg anyone to fucking buy it".
Liam's new band Beady Eye release their eagerly anticipated debut album ‘'Different Gear, Still Speeding'’ on 28th February 2011 on Beady Eye Records. The album features 13 brand new songs written by the band and was recorded at RAK Studios in autumn 2010 with producer Steve Lillywhite
A taster for the album, ‘Bring The Light’, was made available for fans in November from the bands official site beadyeyemusic.com and was downloaded or played over 350,000 times in 24 hours.
via L4e / Uncut Magazine
Interesting read from the newsroom.
Never thought he would still be so bitter about the break-up...
So if I'm understanding this correctly, Noel's solo album will contain a lot of Oasis songs, and there are even demo's with Liam singing these songs? I'm wondering why they weren't on DOYS... Always thought Liam couldn't be arsed singing some songs (like Record Machine) but this isn't true then??
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Post by worldsoutro on Jan 4, 2011 18:31:47 GMT -5
Liam shouldnt be talking hes not even half the songwriter Noel is
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jan 4, 2011 18:41:24 GMT -5
Well, seeing as Liam was bigging them tunes up while he was still in oasis makes this seem even more bitter.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 4, 2011 19:21:55 GMT -5
You can tell that Liam was really hurt by Noel walking out. You can clearly see that he wanted Oasis to have gone on for many more years. That's where the bitterness comes from. He's not being overly nasty. He's just greatly disappointed that Oasis no longer exist - which, if anything, obviously showcases even more of his appreciation for Noel's talents.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 4, 2011 19:25:05 GMT -5
Well, seeing as Liam was bigging them tunes up while he was still in oasis makes this seem even more bitter. Where does he say the tunes are shit or anything of the sort? All he says is that Noel kept some tunes for himself. And that he wasn't entirly honest about ending the band. While we don't know if thats true its plausible. |
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Post by ToneBender on Jan 4, 2011 19:28:06 GMT -5
Sounds like he's lashing out at Noel's claims of being intimidated more than anything. This also seems to confirm the Zutons as being Noel's backup band.
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Post by mrjonboyd on Jan 4, 2011 19:56:16 GMT -5
This proves nothing.
Liam is vitriolic towards the outsiders (in this case noel)? tick.
Liam thinks his album is the best thing ever. Tick
Liam is worth interviewing? Tick.
At least hes got his album out, fair play anything about noel releases is conjecture so still means nowt.
Cant wait to hear noels 'boring' album. Or Liams, but i think know which will be best.
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Post by Rolo on Jan 4, 2011 20:14:57 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself.
Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 4, 2011 20:15:45 GMT -5
This proves nothing. Liam is vitriolic towards the outsiders (in this case noel)? tick. Liam thinks his album is the best thing ever. Tick Liam is worth interviewing? Tick. At least hes got his album out, fair play anything about noel releases is conjecture so still means nowt. Cant wait to hear noels 'boring' album. Or Liams, but i think know which will be best. very nicely put Why did you say he was being a twat though? I don't really get what he's said that wrong? |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 20:20:51 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself. Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis. I wish Liam had been more pationate about Oasis, when Oasis were still together, tbh. But anyways, I thought the story was that Liam was gone for a couple of weeks, not days. Unless I'm mistaken? |
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Post by ToneBender on Jan 4, 2011 20:22:34 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself. Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis. What's particularly absurd about Noel's claim about Liam's nuptials ruining DOYS is that they could've easily recorded vocals in any location at the drop of a hat if need be. A high end mic pre, mic and interface for a laptop are not that hard to come by, especially when you're worth about $80 million. Liam could've recorded the vocals in a private airport lounge on the way back to the UK if they really needed to. |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 4, 2011 20:28:34 GMT -5
I don't believe that Noel was planning to leave the band during the recording if DOYS. I think Liam is tripping a bit with that. Retrospectively saying it to get out of any blame for the break-up on anyone else's part...particularly his. When he did that NME interview in 2008 he said multiple times how he thought that Noel was full on into the Oasis thing and that Noel spent way more time on the band than Liam did.
Amazing that 2 and a bit years later he is calling himself a liar and saying that Noel already had a foot out the door as far back as the recording of DOYS. I call bullshit on him.
Noel seemed to have been hitting a bit of a fertile patch during DOYS so the stuff he wrote the Liam has heard may not have much resemblance to what Noel actual puts out. He's had a full year of time to write since the break-up. And Liam isn't insulting the songs anyways. He said that Noel left off great material that would have been great Oasis material...doesn't sound that negative to me.
Besides with the exception of HHL I think that Noel's DOYS tracks were quality. I hardly think that Liam is asserting that Noel should have left any of LAG's tunes off in favor of more Noel tunes so the point is moot.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 20:29:07 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself. Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis. What's particularly absurd about Noel's claim about Liam's nuptials ruining DOYS is that they could've easily recorded vocals in any location at the drop of a hat if need be. A high end mic pre, mic and interface for a laptop are not that hard to come by, especially when you're worth about $80 million. Liam could've recorded the vocals in a private airport lounge on the way back to the UK if they really needed to. Very true. I've always thought that it was both their faults for the ovals not being recorded. Each tries to put full blame on each other, but its probably more an equal blame. |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 4, 2011 20:34:03 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself. Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis. What's particularly absurd about Noel's claim about Liam's nuptials ruining DOYS is that they could've easily recorded vocals in any location at the drop of a hat if need be. A high end mic pre, mic and interface for a laptop are not that hard to come by, especially when you're worth about $80 million. Liam could've recorded the vocals in a private airport lounge on the way back to the UK if they really needed to. All assuming that Noel wasn't @ the "Fuck him if he thinks that I am going to dance around him like a fooking circus bear" stage that we ALL reach @ some point. We had this discussion on another thread. The fact the Liam wait to record his vocals in full until LA was ludicrous...particularly since he knew he wasn't gonna be there for the whole session! He had all that time in Abbey Road AND the months between AR and LA while Noel was busy with Donovan! Why the fuck are we only blaming Noel? Liam is the singer...it is his responsibility to do his vocals. This is the attitude that I won't miss about Oasis. The "blame everything on Noel" attitude from fans |
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Post by Rolo on Jan 4, 2011 20:38:53 GMT -5
The thing is, Liam is right about the whole keeping songs off DOYS for Noel's solo album, Noel blames Liam for going and getting married for not putting on a couple of songs that were meant to be recorded for DOYS but I think that is basically a load of shit, Liam was back in L.A within two days so it wouldn't of effected any of the recording, the album was finished six months before it came out as well, they could of been recorded then! So I see no other conclusion then Noel keeping the songs for himself. Liam hasn't said any thing nasty there, he's just stated the obvious and you can obviously still see he's hurting from the split which is understandable, he was very passionate about Oasis. I wish Liam had been more pationate about Oasis, when Oasis were still together, tbh. But anyways, I thought the story was that Liam was gone for a couple of weeks, not days. Unless I'm mistaken? I always had the impression that Liam was the driving force behind Oasis at the end, his passion was keeping them going, I don't know how you can say he needed to show more passion, you could tell he 'lived for Oasis' as he said not too long ago. And also it was just a couple of days, no longer, I kind of see Noel's point in that Liam could of got married after the recording of DOYS but if it was just a couple of days I really don't see the big problem, if Noel really cared for Oasis he wouldn't of been so bitter and made sure them 'great songs' he had in line for DOYS made it on to the album! I'm not saying he was thinking of a solo album there and then but I think it was always in the back of his mind. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 20:41:15 GMT -5
^^He wasnt passionate enough to attend soundchecks.
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Post by Rolo on Jan 4, 2011 20:43:06 GMT -5
He stated why he didn't do sound-checks in an interview late 2009, he wanted to save his voice for the actual shows which is fair enough I think.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 20:47:07 GMT -5
He stated why he didn't do sound-checks in an interview late 2009, he wanted to save his voice for the actual shows which is fair enough I think. If it were him skipping a few soundchecks and maybe doing 1 soundcheck, say every 6 or 7 shows. Then sure, its fair. But to skip every single one of them. I dont think it would have hurt his voice, to do at least 1 out of every say 6 or 7 shows. I mean, I dont think a soundcheck is that long. It might be, what 4 or 5 songs? Noel singing 2 out of the 5. 20 minutes top of him singing every once in a while. |
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2011 20:54:00 GMT -5
So according to Liam, Noel swiped some tracks off DOYS for his solo album, thus making it a weaker album. I wouldn't be surprised if this were true - I mean, surely the tunes would of been better than a few of them. Shame that Noel didn't then put in all his effort for that album as it would have been awesome with a few replacements.
Oh well, at least a Noel solo album will have his 110% commitment.
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Post by gdforever on Jan 4, 2011 20:57:05 GMT -5
I think Liam had passion for Oasis in an "absent father" kind of way.
But Liam never put the time of effort into Oasis that Noel did...right up to the end Noel was present for the entirety of the production the album, doing all the promo, dealing with the pre-gig stuff like the soundcheck, and showing up @ every show even going back on stage before the doctors advised with healing ribs.
Liam ditched the band to get married (even if the songs HAD been finished that wasn't right of him), barely did an interview, didn't soundcheck (per usual), and had them cancel the V festival due to a sore throat...concidently the day after attending a football match with mates and was better in time for the next gig according to him (who wants to bet he strained his voice @ the footie game?)
For people, particualrly Liam, to write Noel off as having no commitment to the band kind of steams me up.
From the DOYS release period. Liam was dead sure that Noel was "full on into the Oasis thing" then. And admitted that Noel put 18 hrs a day into Oasis. Doesn't sound like someone everyone knew was just looking for an excuse to get out to me!
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Post by gdforever on Jan 4, 2011 21:04:39 GMT -5
So according to Liam, Noel swiped some tracks off DOYS for his solo album, thus making it a weaker album. I wouldn't be surprised if this were true - I mean, surely the tunes would of been better than a few of them. Shame that Noel didn't then put in all his effort for that album as it would have been awesome with a few replacements. Oh well, at least a Noel solo album will have his 110% commitment. Weakest tracks were Andy, Gems, and Liams, I think. Other than GOYHHL Noel's contributions were solid. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 21:07:05 GMT -5
^^I can excuse him for missing the V festival. If he had a soar throat, he had a sor throat and can be excused. I wish he did more promo stuff. The interview thing, isnt too bad. Its his choice and I think what Liam said during the Oasis era, did Oasis a lot more harm than good. So it might have been good that he didnt do interviews.
I hated that Liam didnt do any soundchecks what so ever. I think if he had done at least one, oncein a while that would have been fine.
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jan 4, 2011 21:14:34 GMT -5
For people, particualrly Liam, to write Noel off as having no commitment to the band kind of steams me up. Whilst I have no real opinion to the Noel/Liam war, it's probably worth pointing out that Noel pulled out of more Oasis shows than Liam did. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 4, 2011 21:16:42 GMT -5
^^whats the total? I know Liam was gone for part of the US leg and Noel was also gone for a good chunk of shows when he ran away to the west coast.
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Post by ToneBender on Jan 4, 2011 21:25:32 GMT -5
What's particularly absurd about Noel's claim about Liam's nuptials ruining DOYS is that they could've easily recorded vocals in any location at the drop of a hat if need be. A high end mic pre, mic and interface for a laptop are not that hard to come by, especially when you're worth about $80 million. Liam could've recorded the vocals in a private airport lounge on the way back to the UK if they really needed to. All assuming that Noel wasn't @ the "Fuck him if he thinks that I am going to dance around him like a fooking circus bear" stage that we ALL reach @ some point. We had this discussion on another thread. The fact the Liam wait to record his vocals in full until LA was ludicrous...particularly since he knew he wasn't gonna be there for the whole session! He had all that time in Abbey Road AND the months between AR and LA while Noel was busy with Donovan! Why the fuck are we only blaming Noel? Liam is the singer...it is his responsibility to do his vocals. This is the attitude that I won't miss about Oasis. The "blame everything on Noel" attitude from fans Please don't take this the wrong way but have you ever been in a recording session? I've logged more hours than I'd care to count in the past nine or so years doing recording and mixing work. I'm sure that Liam had recorded plenty of scratch tracks and they wanted to wait until final song arrangements were made and the tracklisting was getting ironed out out before doing the final takes. As a point of reference, Man Of Misery was clearly tracked in the DOYS sessions but had a very raw vocal on it. That's one example of a scratch vocal. Other examples of scratch vocals? Little James from the SOTSOG demos, the Sardy demos, the Death In Vegas version of TBWTL, LDSMD, the DM demos, etc. I would wager that they probably worked on something like 30-40 songs in this time period with Liam contributing vocals the whole time. Who would record the scratch vocals on his songs? Noel certainly wouldn't have. You think Liam waited to do vocals on 30-40 tracks in the span of a few weeks in LA? His voice (or that of most rock singers) wouldn't be able to hold up to that type of abuse. Would you like me to find all of the interviews with Owen Morris where he talks about Noel only adding his lead guitar parts to WTSMG and BHN while the records were in the process of being mixed? Do you remember that Gem and Noel went to Olympic Studios after other records to add more guitar parts after the rest of the band was finished? When you're a band that has an unlimited budget and no record label to answer to, Noel's explanation just doesn't hold much water. Anyway, it is what it is. Their relationship soured. Noel was upset that Liam didn't meet Donovan and then never invited him to his wedding. And I'm sure the whole time Liam was pissed at Noel for something stupid. Fast forward through a few months of recording sessions, have a traumatic incident put a major impediment in their U.S. promotional plan and there's a terrible start to a tour. I think Noel resented the band not being a little more sensitive to the physical fallout from his stage attack, even months later, and I think the rest of the band resented Noel not spending much time with them on the last tour unaware of the physical pain he was in. Is anyone at fault? Not really. Doesn't mean you can't still discuss it. |
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