Talking of Lillywhite









He later said there'd be a small chapter in "the book" about him working with Beady Eye (so I assume he's writing a book)

Yeah it will be. Kind of deserves its own thread really. The whole lillywhite vs beady eye thing was only ever briefly talked about on here from what I remember.

Even without instantly taking Liam/Beady eyes side on all of this, what Lillywhite is saying does come across as covering his own reputation by producing a pack of lies.

Liam being drunk alot plays perfectly into the 90s stereotype and would probably be unquestioned in his circles, but do we really believe that was the case?

Remember one forum member saying that Lillywhite basically put the word out about them in the producer world not to work with them, which I suppose has some substance seen as they found it so difficult to find someone for BE.

I think its just a case of Lillywhite not wanting a repeat of the critcism aimed at him by the La's.

I like the boldness of the tune but it wasn't right for being the first material we heard from Beady Eye. Four Letter Word was the track to kick the doors down.

I do like Bring the Light but I think it goes on too long, which makes it seem especially repetitive. Should have ended abruptly by the 3min mark.

It took many plays to really understand the groove of the song. But my initial impression will always be something along the lines of "What is this shit?"

Steve also made reference to Liam & cocaine in another tweet.

The lads seemed quite driven to get some music recorded and get out playing. They all seemed relatively focused. It seems like a massive clash of ideas and personality's.

He seemed driven at first I agree, as well as Andy, Gem and Chris all coming across positively in interviews. The part I disagree with is focused in the case of Liam, with his attention at the time being on Pretty Green, which is fair dues at it was growing as a brand and business, and the still unreleased "The Last Cocktail Party" starting with Cannes 2010 Festival announcements and carrying on periodically up to date.

Also I don't think any producer would have made much difference at the time as this was four established musicians coming out of a major selling band where they had been used to someone else (i.e. Noel) calling the shots, and so would have likely relished the opportunity to put forward songs without rejection, decide upon the sound, track listing, artwork, etc. For this they didn't need a name producer, having studio engineers with the band themselves producing the record would probably have been a better bet.

Still hindsight always gives the best vision, and it is a genuine shame to me that the follow up BE album was so beset with external factor problems (Gem's injuries, Liam's personal circumstances at the time) that they did not get to push it with an uninterrupted tour then carry on trying to move forward.

This as the first Beady Eye song ever was the harbinger of the bands eventual failure.

Without Lillywhite's input, that album would never have been released and Lee Mavers would still be pottering about a being a nobody. That album needed someone to take the bull by the horns, and Lillywhite did a good job of it.

I like it. It's a fun song. Probably about 30 seconds too long. If it had been 30 second shorter, it would probably be one of the 3 best songs on DGSS and would be a worthy Oasis song.