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Post by gaspanic23 on Nov 12, 2010 16:01:59 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, they know the song is shit and they released it to lower everyone's expectations so that the album would sound brilliant compared to those 3.45 minutes of ear-rape..
If only they were that clever!
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Post by thestellasarecold on Nov 12, 2010 19:27:47 GMT -5
Well, I don't absolutely loathe Bring The Light like some on here but I have to say, I find there is less to like the more you listen to the track. It has a very "immediate" feel like most of Liam's songs and it is this immediacy that buckles under the scrutiny of repeated listens. I don't take issue with the 'new' direction, it's more the way they have executed it.
Liam writes songs like I eat McDonalds after a big night on the piss: extremely quickly and without much care or attention to what the after effects might be... He has said as much himself; he just bangs 'em out and moves on. I suppose that approach at least gives us new material quicker than Noel who moves at a snail's pace. But would you rather a snail moving at a snail's pace and producing, as McGee claims, 'another Don't Look Back In Anger' or Liam moving much quicker and banging out a hasty, diluted 'Great Balls Of Fire'?
My verdict after about ten listens: the song is catchy, no doubt. That it has going for it. The slightly roughed up punkish voice of Liam circa 2010 is at least well controlled and adds an extra element to proceedings.
The piano is a good idea as are the backing singers but it is massively derivative of that fifties sound; they haven't tried to modernise, alter or add any interesting touches whatsoever to these nostalgic elements. And this is what critics will rightly slate Beady Eye for. It just seems lazy; 'oh, that Jerry Lee Lewis piano part is great so we're gona steal it wholesale'. And Oasis were guilty of this too let's face it: the guitar in Roll It Over, the guitar at the end of The Turning and of course, Cigarettes and Alcohol to name a few. Just happens that they were much better songs than Bring The Light. It isn't enough to say, 'nobody's doing the fifties at the moment so we'll do it and it will stand out as new and fresh'.
Liam's songs are like campfire 'ditties'; there isn't any real structure to them; no obvious verse or chorus. When I first downloaded the track, it just kind of 'started'. There was no build up to a crescendo which good songs tend to do to build the excitement. A few bars of piano and bang, it's on! One very basic verse repeated and a mass of repeated 'Baby Come Ons' doesn't exactly make for an enthralling listen. I think it works okay up until about the final third where the repetition gets tiresome. The guitar doesn't really take it anywhere different either.
It is clearly a Liam song where the bare bones of some basic chords have 'flesh' added to them by other instrumentation. I hope Gem and Andy have more of an imprint on the structure of the rest of the album because they're the 'musicians' afterall.
I'm still really interested in hearing the rest of the record. Alan McGee said you shouldn't judge Beady Eye by the release of one single but really, shouldn't the first material a new band releases ('official' single or not) deliberately be some of their strongest work? I know when I'm going for a job interview, I only put my best and most relevant acheivements on the CV to garner interest. Maybe this will indeed prove one of the better achievements on Beady Eye's CV? Or, as people have said, maybe it was a tactical move to release not necessarily the best but the most contrasting track to generate hype and debate? It has certainly done that and Bring The Light is different to Oasis in terms of 'sound' if not 'philosophy' (that of pilfering from the past). Kudos to them for trying something out of left field but only time will tell what they're really made of...
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Post by sultrysummer on Nov 12, 2010 23:27:42 GMT -5
Thestellasarecold's thoughtful and versatile analysis of "BTL" is, to me, the best thing about this song.
Everything I would have wanted to say (but couldn't have expressed it so well) is in his post. The only thing I've got to add is that it is an insult to Jerry Lee Lewis to bring him up in the "BTL" context. JLL (at least the original 50s one) had true menace&danger in him. This song sounds more like Shakin' Stevens.
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Nov 14, 2010 11:33:19 GMT -5
Thestellasarecold's thoughtful and versatile analysis of "BTL" is, to me, the best thing about this song. Everything I would have wanted to say (but couldn't have expressed it so well) is in his post. The only thing I've got to add is that it is an insult to Jerry Lee Lewis to bring him up in the "BTL" context. JLL (at least the original 50s one) had true menace&danger in him. This song sounds more like Shakin' Stevens. agreed! I'd hope this song is sort of like Led Zepp's "Hot Dog" - just everyone acting silly and having some fun. Hopefully the rest of the album will be better!
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Post by oneeye on Nov 14, 2010 12:22:57 GMT -5
the song is a joyous and energetic rock stomp
you idiots are expecting WAY too much, why not respect the song for what it is.
This ain't Oasis, get over it and move on!
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Nov 14, 2010 12:47:49 GMT -5
Bring on the next tune. This one is already a distant memory.
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Post by uboasis on Nov 14, 2010 14:05:55 GMT -5
I like the song very much. I'm also relieved that it sounds different from Oasis.
Liam's voice is great. I do like the 'boogie-woogie' vibe. I think the first half of the song is better than the end. It does go on to long so that is why I give it a 4/5 instead of a 5/5. I am not getting tired of it.
I was wondering if I liked it just because I wanted to like it because it's an off-shoot of Oasis but then I reminded myself that no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get into Bag It Up or The Turning so it's not like I'm automatically going to like everything they put out. I guarantee you if they released I Can See A Liar, I would have not liked it.
After a several days, I can conclude it's a 4/5 in my book. It's up beat and I enjoy it so that's all that matters to me.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Nov 14, 2010 16:24:14 GMT -5
How can you don't get Bag It Up or The Turning but Bring The Light?
Well, each to their own.
Since I'm quite disappointed by this first impression we got from BDI, I'm now even more looking forward to Noel's solo album.
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Post by oneeye on Nov 14, 2010 16:39:59 GMT -5
How can you don't get Bag It Up or The Turning but Bring The Light? Well, each to their own. Since I'm quite disappointed by this first impression we got from BDI, I'm now even more looking forward to Noel's solo album. if he can be arsed to do it lol
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Nov 14, 2010 16:49:41 GMT -5
the song is a joyous and energetic rock stomp you idiots are expecting WAY too much, why not respect the song for what it is. This ain't Oasis, get over it and move on! how can we be accusing of expecting way too much when Liam himself has said it's better than anything oasis has ever done?
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Nov 14, 2010 17:38:16 GMT -5
Beady Eye just rehashing their Oasis material would be the dullest thing ever. I approve of the direction they seem to be taking and I love the song.
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Post by okwhatever on Nov 14, 2010 18:25:35 GMT -5
Just heard the song for the first time, and Wow! That is not what I was expecting!
I like it. It doesn't seem have any real hook, as a few people have pointed out, but it has got a great vibe. Hearing it makes me even more curious to hear the album.
I suspect they picked this as their debut song as a way to seperate the wheat from the chaff among old Oasis fans. This clearly isn't going to be Oasis 2.0.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 14, 2010 18:36:56 GMT -5
Beady Eye just rehashing their Oasis material would be the dullest thing ever. I approve of the direction they seem to be taking and I love the song. Why is the assumption that if you don't like this then you want them to sound like what Oasis has already done?
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Post by chrispy on Nov 15, 2010 4:58:03 GMT -5
I've not been happy with the vast majority of Oasis material for a long time now but I rather like this new Beady Eye track. Kooky.
I think the split in the long run will be good for Oasis, they are obviously going to reform at some point in the future. Both brothers have a lot to get out of their system and it will be interesting to see.
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Post by MacaRonic on Nov 15, 2010 9:30:17 GMT -5
Anyone think the piano sounds like a kid going mental in his room after his third lesson?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 15, 2010 10:09:14 GMT -5
the song is a joyous and energetic rock stomp you idiots are expecting WAY too much, why not respect the song for what it is. This ain't Oasis, get over it and move on! how can we be accusing of expecting way too much when Liam himself has said it's better than anything oasis has ever done? Oh dear, you believed a bit of Liam bluster? I thought everyone stopped that in 1994.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Nov 15, 2010 10:17:43 GMT -5
we all need to hug, and stop fighting.
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Post by oneeye on Nov 15, 2010 12:25:40 GMT -5
we all need to hug, and stop fighting. I think alot of peoples fears will put laid to rest when they hear the next song which I suspect is gonna be massive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by NYR on Nov 18, 2010 17:10:17 GMT -5
i knew this song sounded similar to a song i love, but couldn't place my finger on it until today. it sounds similar to "raw power" by iggy and the stooges.
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 20, 2010 15:10:15 GMT -5
Flicking over the channels today, on Sky Sports was that fan show where they answer questions to win money. The song in the background i was thinking 'thats f*cking cool' and then i realised it was an instrumental version of Bring the light ! Glad they were using it though.
Sounds weird but after seeing the official video and then things like this, when you hear the song on tv it makes the song far better.
I was a bit of a hater at first but now i'm enjoying the song much more
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Post by gdforever on Nov 20, 2010 15:36:55 GMT -5
I might like it better instrumental...
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Post by face on Nov 22, 2010 23:35:30 GMT -5
i could bloviate on this but i won't. this song is awful. there's no point in embellishing. just an awkward, clumsy tune. uff da.
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Post by bdiplayer on Nov 24, 2010 2:27:57 GMT -5
I felt that the promo video as a bit tacky and 'el-cheapo', but as they are a 'new' act yet to prove themselves, millions are not likely to be squandered on lavish, cinema-like visuals.
After generally dismissing the amauterish-looking vid-promo, I heard 'Bring the Light' on the radio last night, and I must admit it came accross as a far more effective proposition when heard among the sea of dross that pollutes the radiowaves. It stood out really well, and grabbed my full attention: that searing, piano-based chord structure is an out-and-out winner!
This song is a no-holds-barred, out-and-out Rock Stomper, when heard on it's own terms [as a 3-minute 'pop-pep' zinger]. It is absolutely, and totally, ROCKIN'!!!!!!
Unashamedly so!
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Post by gdforever on Nov 24, 2010 3:04:12 GMT -5
Is the radio edit shorter? Just curious...
I haven't heard it on radio yet.
That'd be awesome if they just cut 20ish seconds off near the end
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Post by glider on Aug 7, 2015 16:40:15 GMT -5
Literally one of the funniest and most shocking threads I've ever read on the forum. Did this "song" really need to go 23 pages into discussion? What the f*ck.
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