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Post by AllOrNothing on Sept 2, 2024 3:07:30 GMT -5
In my book, the Stone Roses' free show at Manchester was a class move (it's been captured on Shane Meadow's documentary)
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 2, 2024 3:10:58 GMT -5
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Post by epiphoney on Sept 2, 2024 3:37:45 GMT -5
At least then he wasn't told that £45 ticket is now £135 due to demand.
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Post by globe on Sept 2, 2024 3:59:54 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing has been around for 20+ years - airlines, hotels/holiday companies have been doing it since the dawn of modern web technology. Air BnB are also at it. I am in no way defending Oasis and their management for doing this - the prices of all the tickets, never mind the "in-demand" ones are a joke - just pointing out this is nothing new. Capitalism eh.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 4:05:26 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing has been around for 20+ years - airlines, hotels/holiday companies have been doing it since the dawn of modern web technology. Air BnB are also at it. I am in no way defending Oasis and their management for doing this - the prices of all the tickets, never mind the "in-demand" ones are a joke - just pointing out this is nothing new. Capitalism eh. yeah, buts they are different "products". On one side, a service, on the other, a cultural phenomenom that have an impact on society. This is a missed opportunity to have another cultural impact on society
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 4:07:15 GMT -5
and it was expensive back then ! this is how they manipulate people; Slowly but surely raising tickets price, fees and etc. The new generation find perfectly normal to pay for 150 standing tickets.
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Post by globe on Sept 2, 2024 4:10:32 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing has been around for 20+ years - airlines, hotels/holiday companies have been doing it since the dawn of modern web technology. Air BnB are also at it. I am in no way defending Oasis and their management for doing this - the prices of all the tickets, never mind the "in-demand" ones are a joke - just pointing out this is nothing new. Capitalism eh. yeah, buts they are different "products". On one side, a service, on the other, a cultural phenomenom that have an impact on society. This is a missed opportunity to have another cultural impact on society Very true - I suspect living in a bubble of being incredibly wealthy for 20+ years makes you see these things a bit differently, especially when you have the likes of Marcus Russell and Ignition in your ear.
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Post by wildliam on Sept 2, 2024 4:13:03 GMT -5
and it was expensive back then ! this is how they manipulate people; Slowly but surely raising tickets price, fees and etc. The new generation find perfectly normal to pay for 150 standing tickets. And standing tickets historically the less expensive for a gig. And some gig are really big shows with huge technical or performance. Oasis it is 5 men on a stage and that's all (for me it needed nothing more, just music, but it is even less justifiable to put such prices)
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 2, 2024 4:33:31 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing has been around for 20+ years - airlines, hotels/holiday companies have been doing it since the dawn of modern web technology. Air BnB are also at it. I am in no way defending Oasis and their management for doing this - the prices of all the tickets, never mind the "in-demand" ones are a joke - just pointing out this is nothing new. Capitalism eh. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 4:55:20 GMT -5
and it was expensive back then ! this is how they manipulate people; Slowly but surely raising tickets price, fees and etc. The new generation find perfectly normal to pay for 150 standing tickets. And standing tickets historically the less expensive for a gig. And some gig are really big shows with huge technical or performance. Oasis it is 5 men on a stage and that's all (for me it needed nothing more, just music, but it is even less justifiable to put such prices) There will probably an orchestra that could justify a small bump in prices. But yeah, those standing tickets prices were surprising. We'll see about the support; If its big bands, then it could justify the prices too, kind of like a festival event; But it starts at 5 pm, so the "big supports" will be 1 max.
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Post by dampcottage on Sept 2, 2024 4:58:13 GMT -5
So if tickets are considered "in demand" the prices go up, therefore if there's no demand the opposite should happen and prices should drop? Yeah they do. Similar to the standard slashing of ticket prices that happens when they are not moving. Tickets were half the price at the end for Pearl Jam tickets this summer. So in reality is just a way to push up prices without having to communicate the high prices at the get-go. Before, tickets could just go cheaper but never suddenly be raised. so how can it be stopped?
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Post by dampcottage on Sept 2, 2024 4:59:12 GMT -5
So if tickets are considered "in demand" the prices go up, therefore if there's no demand the opposite should happen and prices should drop? That would be amazing but then how do they fuck you up? They actually do it over here from time to time, when tickets are selling *badly* they give them out for 10-20€ in the last days of sale well it seems this was always the plan anyway
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 2, 2024 5:19:17 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing has been around for 20+ years - airlines, hotels/holiday companies have been doing it since the dawn of modern web technology. Air BnB are also at it. I am in no way defending Oasis and their management for doing this - the prices of all the tickets, never mind the "in-demand" ones are a joke - just pointing out this is nothing new. Capitalism eh. yeah, buts they are different "products". On one side, a service, on the other, a cultural phenomenom that have an impact on society. This is a missed opportunity to have another cultural impact on society But the gigs have sold out. The same number of people will see them in 2025 whatever the tickets cost. I don’t see how selling the same number of tickets at a lower cost will have had any more of a cultural impact on society.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 5:42:31 GMT -5
yeah, buts they are different "products". On one side, a service, on the other, a cultural phenomenom that have an impact on society. This is a missed opportunity to have another cultural impact on society But the gigs have sold out. The same number of people will see them in 2025 whatever the tickets cost. I don’t see how selling the same number of tickets at a lower cost will have had any more of a cultural impact on society. It doesnt matter if they sold out. they will always sell out for a while, because the demand is strong. its up to promoters and the band to set a price. if tickets where 500 for all of them, it would still sell out. the world is currently in full inflation, in the verge of recession. Everything has gone up 30% in the last two years. Oasis Reunion, maybe the most anticipated event in the recent history (bar aliens landing and who killed Kennedy), the band could have pushed hard to keep ticket prices low. Maybe even have a strong message like "prices the same as when we broke up in 2009" or something; That would make one hell of a headline. Its events like that that shake a society, a broken system. that makes the mind think and maybe this is not totally OKAY. The new generation does not know tickets were affordable before; instead, you have articles like that that floorish www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13783905/oasis-2025-tour-ticket-price-fans-reminisce-2009-gig.html
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 2, 2024 5:44:55 GMT -5
I would suggest they gave them away but a £100 for standing, £80 for seating seems more reasonable.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 5:47:08 GMT -5
I would suggest they gave them away but a £100 for standing, £80 for seating seems more reasonable. Totally;
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 2, 2024 5:50:11 GMT -5
But the gigs have sold out. The same number of people will see them in 2025 whatever the tickets cost. I don’t see how selling the same number of tickets at a lower cost will have had any more of a cultural impact on society. It doesnt matter if they sold out. they will always sell out for a while, because the demand is strong. its up to promoters and the band to set a price. if tickets where 500 for all of them, it would still sell out. the world is currently in full inflation, in the verge of recession. Everything has gone up 30% in the last two years. Oasis Reunion, maybe the most anticipated event in the recent history (bar aliens landing and who killed Kennedy), the band could have pushed hard to keep ticket prices low. Maybe even have a strong message like "prices the same as when we broke up in 2009" or something; That would make one hell of a headline. Its events like that that shake a society, a broken system. that makes the mind think and maybe this is not totally OKAY. The new generation does not know tickets were affordable before; instead, you have articles like that that floorish www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13783905/oasis-2025-tour-ticket-price-fans-reminisce-2009-gig.htmlHonestly, I see posts like this and I’m convinced some of you have a fantasy version of Noel and Liam in your heads.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 2, 2024 5:50:19 GMT -5
I would suggest they gave them away but a £100 for standing, £80 for seating seems more reasonable. This would be great. Something has to happen, surely. An interview with them chatting about how great Definitely Maybe was would come across poor, now.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 2, 2024 5:55:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I see posts like this and I’m convinced some of you have a fantasy version of Noel and Liam in your heads. no fantasy really, just pure facts and observation. i did not expect low prices; i choose not to buy them in the pre sale; I'm saying, they could have, it would have been smart . Its a band that always had relatively good priced tickets; never over the top. this is now over. that's it. the web is currently being flooded with articles about unhappy fans and broken system. the Oasis name is now attached to it, its a major mistake. just like napster and metallica;
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 2, 2024 5:59:29 GMT -5
I would suggest they gave them away but a £100 for standing, £80 for seating seems more reasonable. Only issue is whether you could ensure they were bought by the right people.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 2, 2024 6:08:01 GMT -5
I would suggest they gave them away but a £100 for standing, £80 for seating seems more reasonable. Only issue is whether you could ensure they were bought by the right people. Not bothered by that to be fair mate. Me being a fan for 30 years gives me no more ownership over the band than someone that started with them 6 months ago or someone that just wants to go and experience it.
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Post by standonit on Sept 2, 2024 6:12:55 GMT -5
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Post by wildliam on Sept 2, 2024 6:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 2, 2024 6:26:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I see posts like this and I’m convinced some of you have a fantasy version of Noel and Liam in your heads. no fantasy really, just pure facts and observation. i did not expect low prices; i choose not to buy them in the pre sale; I'm saying, they could have, it would have been smart . Its a band that always had relatively good priced tickets; never over the top. this is now over. that's it. the web is currently being flooded with articles about unhappy fans and broken system. the Oasis name is now attached to it, its a major mistake. just like napster and metallica; Do you remember that one time where Oasis donated to charity or asked you to give ? Well me neither. There is no hypocrisy in all of this, they are who they are and if they put a big reunion tour it is to become filthy rich. Who cares ? It’s not like Noel will start the gig by asking the audience to think about starving children.
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Post by wildliam on Sept 2, 2024 6:38:57 GMT -5
Twickets is totally out of services.
We can be sure all bots are on the platform to take the resale tickets.
The problem is it is impossible to wait months for tickets if we have to find a plane and a hotel.
I think I will just give up and let this mascarade
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