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Post by The Escapist on Sept 4, 2024 15:02:26 GMT -5
Incredible that half the responses to a tweet announcing more dates is anger at the band over the price hikes.
Liam and Noel: the dynamic duo.
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Post by Supersonic on Sept 4, 2024 15:04:20 GMT -5
Incredible that half the responses to a tweet announcing more dates is anger at the band over the price hikes. Liam and Noel: the dynamic duo. I totally get the anger but I'm completely bewildered that people seem to think it's all completely Liam and Noel's doing. It's the management to blame.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 4, 2024 15:05:30 GMT -5
Incredible that half the responses to a tweet announcing more dates is anger at the band over the price hikes. Liam and Noel: the dynamic duo. It's insane how people have completely missed the part about the sale being staggered - releasing batches of tickets means that the demand won't reach the point where dynamic pricing would kick in and, after all this, do people really think they'd be dumb enough to continue using dynamic pricing?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2024 15:06:52 GMT -5
Whereās all the whingers nowš told you it wasnāt the bands fault .. Noelās divorce turned them into greedy bastards , Jesus wept .. the tour is based round the uk start tour .. a world tour is to follow It goes some way to correcting the mistake. Fans should never stop pointing out how shite dynamic pricing is. It's cartel behavior.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 4, 2024 15:12:24 GMT -5
Incredible that half the responses to a tweet announcing more dates is anger at the band over the price hikes. Liam and Noel: the dynamic duo. I totally get the anger but I'm completely bewildered that people seem to think it's all completely Liam and Noel's doing. It's the management to blame. No-one comes out of this smelling of roses. It's Ticketmaster's scheme and Ignition/Marcus will have made the deal, but when other artists like Robert Smith have refused to lower themselves to it, and both Noel and Liam have derided corporate money-grubbing of the same kind in the past, it puts the spotlight firmly on them all when their big celebration of a return decides to cash in with just the same technique. And it's Oasis. It means more. Sadie makes a good point, though. If it's true that the staggered release prevents the dynamic artful-dodging, then that's an elegant solution to the problem going forward. Let's see how it all plays out, I suppose.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 4, 2024 15:19:09 GMT -5
I totally get the anger but I'm completely bewildered that people seem to think it's all completely Liam and Noel's doing. It's the management to blame. It's Ticketmaster's scheme and Ignition/Marcus will have made the deal A bit random I guess, but have you read this article? It's fucking mind-boggling (I can't remember who originally shared it here, sorry) www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmw0l30vk0o
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Post by epiphoney on Sept 4, 2024 15:19:39 GMT -5
Be interesting to see how they address the dynamic pricing for those that already paid. Seen a few people not amused they have already paid well over the odds.
If they did refunds how would they do it for people who've already bought platinum on resale etc. You might have a fare few of out of pocket bots on Twickets.
Also shouldn't the band being looking at firing some people if it's a management balls up on this scale. Not forgeting Ticketmaster threw them under the bus to start with.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 4, 2024 15:23:03 GMT -5
Another thing The Escapist, during the presale where obviously there was a limited amount of tickets available at one time, dynamic pricing didn't kick in. If I'm reading into this correctly, releasing the tickets in 3, 4 or more batches this time over the course of the day would create the scenario where you'd have multiple 'presale-like' periods - sure enough, queues were much more efficient during the presale, everyone had ample time to purchase (I got tickets over half an hour after they went on sale for instance) and tickets stayed at a static price the entire time. Do that a few times over the course of the day, maybe a batch per hour, and it'd be much more streamlined!
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Post by vespa on Sept 4, 2024 15:24:29 GMT -5
Half are thick as shit .. the band have said that dynamic pricing was nothing to do with them and didnāt agree to it hence the reason they are cancelling viagogo tickets and putting out tickets for those selected in the presale .. most are moaning because they are catering for the demand.. to cater for it they need to do 150 nights at Wembley .. folks have lost the plot
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 4, 2024 15:24:43 GMT -5
It's Ticketmaster's scheme and Ignition/Marcus will have made the deal A bit random I guess, but have you read this article? It's fucking mind-boggling (I can't remember who originally shared it here, sorry) www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmw0l30vk0oIt's always pleasant to reflect on how our cultural life is hog-tied, hacked up, and flogged back to us by a small club of screeching corporate lizards.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 4, 2024 15:26:54 GMT -5
Another thing The Escapist , during the presale where obviously there was a limited amount of tickets available at one time, dynamic pricing didn't kick in. If I'm reading into this correctly, releasing the tickets in 3, 4 or more batches this time over the course of the day would create the scenario where you'd have multiple 'presale-like' periods - sure enough, queues were much more efficient during the presale, everyone had ample time to purchase (I got tickets over half an hour after they went on sale for instance) and tickets stayed at a static price the entire time. Do that a few times over the course of the day, maybe a batch per hour, and it'd be much more streamlined! I like that solution. Make a statement on how doing this will deliberately reward the unlucky fans as well as prevent dynamic pricing, and all's well. I'll still be Ā£1,500 down, of course, but then again I downloaded an MP3 leak of "The Mexican" back in 2015 so maybe Noel feels I owe him. In all seriousness, though, I don't expect a refund - I bought the tickets. It was a scum move to hike the price up in the panic hours, knowing the emotional stakes of an Oasis reunion for a largely working-class fanbase, but I bought them all the same. I just want it to feel like money well spent on the meaningful and euphoric return of what has always been the most meaningful and euphoric band of my lifetime.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:09:56 GMT -5
My oh my do they suck at that.
People who bougght overpriced tickets will be Even more furious š
Keep digging its not the lowest get but close enough
I fully expect insults being chanted at every gig now
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Post by supersonic84 on Sept 4, 2024 16:14:27 GMT -5
Sell them on here ya fruit cake!! Ok. 1.500Ā£ each for you. Aye, good luck with that pal.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2024 16:15:34 GMT -5
I fully expect insults being chanted at every gig now š That's not going to happen.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:17:23 GMT -5
I fully expect insults being chanted at every gig now š That's not going to happen. Times have changed my friend, people get very angry and want the world to know. All it takes is one dynamic fan and the rest of the dynamic people Will follow Question is : Will dynamic fans be put in the same section of the STADIUM, With less room, no food or water and no restroom
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Post by alanjwhite on Sept 4, 2024 16:21:56 GMT -5
Some of you need to grow up. DM is 30 years old, meaning many fans are in their 40s and 50s by now. This dramatic angst about some expensive tickets is way over the top.
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 4, 2024 16:23:52 GMT -5
My oh my do they suck at that. People who bougght overpriced tickets will be Even more furious š Keep digging its not the lowest get but close enough I fully expect insults being chanted at every gig now A riot will take place, the stage will be stormed by the crowd and Noel will be forced to apologized and will announce the tour is cancelled, everything will be remade from the beginning with a presale ballot sent to you and no dynamic pricing, and everything will end well. A then you wake up.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:24:14 GMT -5
Some of you need to grow up. DM is 30 years old, meaning many fans are in their 40s and 50s by now. This dramatic angst about some expensive tickets is way over the top. Have you seen the crowd at Liam gigs ? Most are barely 12
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 4, 2024 16:25:18 GMT -5
Some of you need to grow up. DM is 30 years old, meaning many fans are in their 40s and 50s by now. This dramatic angst about some expensive tickets is way over the top. Have you seen the crowd at Liam gigs ? Most are barely 12 Good thing it was expensive then, no under 14 allowed on the pitch.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:26:35 GMT -5
My oh my do they suck at that. People who bougght overpriced tickets will be Even more furious š Keep digging its not the lowest get but close enough I fully expect insults being chanted at every gig now A riot will take place, the stage will be stormed by the crowd and Noel will be forced to apologized and will announce the tour is cancelled, everything will be remade from the beginning with a presale ballot sent to you and no dynamic pricing, and everything will end well. A then you wake up. No need i already passed on the pre sale ballot when i saw the silly prices not Even dynamic
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Post by andymorris on Sept 4, 2024 16:29:47 GMT -5
Have you seen the crowd at Liam gigs ? Most are barely 12 Good thing it was expensive then, no under 14 allowed on the pitch. Probably to save them from riots. See that was planed all along.
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 4, 2024 16:40:53 GMT -5
A riot will take place, the stage will be stormed by the crowd and Noel will be forced to apologized and will announce the tour is cancelled, everything will be remade from the beginning with a presale ballot sent to you and no dynamic pricing, and everything will end well. A then you wake up. No need i already passed on the pre sale ballot when i saw the silly prices not Even dynamic Well let just say you have to process the frustration in a different manner. Look I will never see Leonard Cohen because I was low on cash last time he was in Paris - it was at least 130ā¬ and more that 10 years ago ! So I get the anger believe me. But thatās show business, they could, and they have, and 1.4 millions tickets have been sold in hours. Oasis is classic rock now. And I feel old for saying that.
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Post by Marissa on Sept 4, 2024 16:57:58 GMT -5
I totally get the anger but I'm completely bewildered that people seem to think it's all completely Liam and Noel's doing. It's the management to blame. No-one comes out of this smelling of roses. It's Ticketmaster's scheme and Ignition/Marcus will have made the deal, but when other artists like Robert Smith have refused to lower themselves to it, and both Noel and Liam have derided corporate money-grubbing of the same kind in the past, it puts the spotlight firmly on them all when their big celebration of a return decides to cash in with just the same technique. And it's Oasis. It means more. Sadie makes a good point, though. If it's true that the staggered release prevents the dynamic artful-dodging, then that's an elegant solution to the problem going forward. Let's see how it all plays out, I suppose. My thought is honestly that LG & NG probably asked to have as little involvement in the business side of things as possible. It doesn't seem like their style. I don't think they personally signed off on it. But Marcus absolutely did.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 4, 2024 17:20:10 GMT -5
No-one comes out of this smelling of roses. It's Ticketmaster's scheme and Ignition/Marcus will have made the deal, but when other artists like Robert Smith have refused to lower themselves to it, and both Noel and Liam have derided corporate money-grubbing of the same kind in the past, it puts the spotlight firmly on them all when their big celebration of a return decides to cash in with just the same technique. And it's Oasis. It means more. Sadie makes a good point, though. If it's true that the staggered release prevents the dynamic artful-dodging, then that's an elegant solution to the problem going forward. Let's see how it all plays out, I suppose. My thought is honestly that LG & NG probably asked to have as little involvement in the business side of things as possible. It doesn't seem like their style. I don't think they personally signed off on it. But Marcus absolutely did. Quite a few of us said this. From the very start I pointed the blame at Ignition (and Ticketmaster) above anyone else, although SJM arent absolved either. Iām not saying theyāre innocent. But it almost cracks me up to see people on X talking about Liam Gallagher like heās got the financial mind of Bernie Madoff.
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Post by ajito on Sept 4, 2024 17:22:14 GMT -5
They should rename āLiveā25ā as āOasis: The Dynamic Tourā.
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