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Post by jumpinjackflash78 on Sept 2, 2024 20:30:45 GMT -5
I know these tickets just got a different name to sell them in a higher range.
With 'luxury experience' I meant the ticket prices you have to pay these days in general if you want to a big concert.
You can't even attend the random arena size show without having to pay 80-90 quid these days and for younger people it's normal aka they never witnessed anything else.
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Post by settingson on Sept 3, 2024 8:18:35 GMT -5
Comparing concert ticket prices pre and post (large scale) streaming doesn't really make sense.
At the end of the day, however much the bands and their music mean to us, it's just a business. With the streaming companies now making a lot of the money in that business, the other players have to find a way to make their cut.
Ticketmaster and their ilk have been a massive beneficiary of the new business model. It just fell in their laps.
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Post by vespa on Sept 3, 2024 10:13:31 GMT -5
Streaming ruined the music business and made touring more expensive due to loss of royalties , energy crisis is making venues double the cost ..
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Post by stardustez on Sept 3, 2024 11:27:02 GMT -5
Hi everyone, first post here, from Spain, fan of oasis from the 90’s, never saw them live, and have been dreaming with this for years.
The day of the ticket go live I was so exited, logged in the laptop and cellphone both my wife and I, I got in the queue number 400k or so and wife got 20k for wembkey, we were for hours waiting anxiously, when she got in she was immediately kicked out. She just screamed and left it with frustration. I kept trying until 16hr or so when I got into again but suddenly only tickets available were those in demand 356£ each, I was left in despair, and just by FOMO and the urge of getting something I bought 2 of them without really knowing what was that. I thought it was some VIP shit, but no…
Later I did understand how this was working and now instead of feeling happy to have the tickets I feel scammed, sad. What has this become? This MF of Ticketmaster saying that YOU cannot sell tickets at market price, but THEY CAN? That can get advantage of your FOMO (created by them) and rip you off?
Honestly, what was happiness has become sadness and a feeling of being used and scammed. Right now I don’t really feel like spending another 1k£ at least to buy plane and accommodation to Edimburg to see them. I am thinking of doing as they do and selling the tickets in viagogo, cash out and pay my wife a nice trip out, or either just get rid of them. I don’t know if this feeling would change with the time, but it is what it is right now….
Also them not saying a word about this complete bullshit does not help. We feel abandoned.
Don’t think they are worth 2k£ to be honest.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 3, 2024 12:32:01 GMT -5
Comparing concert ticket prices pre and post (large scale) streaming doesn't really make sense. At the end of the day, however much the bands and their music mean to us, it's just a business. With the streaming companies now making a lot of the money in that business, the other players have to find a way to make their cut. Ticketmaster and their ilk have been a massive beneficiary of the new business model. It just fell in their laps. Yeah Noel And Liam would be on the break of financial ruin if they had pocketed 25 millions instead of 50 And that s not counting marketing (sponsors etc) or merchandising Prices should have been higher Even ! (Lets remember Noel make 2k a day from Wonderwall streams alone, Said so himself) This kind of comment does not apply to such bands. Its not hard to make the difference
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 3, 2024 13:35:48 GMT -5
Hi everyone, first post here, from Spain, fan of oasis from the 90’s, never saw them live, and have been dreaming with this for years. The day of the ticket go live I was so exited, logged in the laptop and cellphone both my wife and I, I got in the queue number 400k or so and wife got 20k for wembkey, we were for hours waiting anxiously, when she got in she was immediately kicked out. She just screamed and left it with frustration. I kept trying until 16hr or so when I got into again but suddenly only tickets available were those in demand 356£ each, I was left in despair, and just by FOMO and the urge of getting something I bought 2 of them without really knowing what was that. I thought it was some VIP shit, but no… Later I did understand how this was working and now instead of feeling happy to have the tickets I feel scammed, sad. What has this become? This MF of Ticketmaster saying that YOU cannot sell tickets at market price, but THEY CAN? That can get advantage of your FOMO (created by them) and rip you off? Honestly, what was happiness has become sadness and a feeling of being used and scammed. Right now I don’t really feel like spending another 1k£ at least to buy plane and accommodation to Edimburg to see them. I am thinking of doing as they do and selling the tickets in viagogo, cash out and pay my wife a nice trip out, or either just get rid of them. I don’t know if this feeling would change with the time, but it is what it is right now…. Also them not saying a word about this complete bullshit does not help. We feel abandoned. Don’t think they are worth 2k£ to be honest. I get you frustration. I would have probably bought those tickets as well so don’t feel bad. I understand you spent an extra 400£ for these, which hurts, but without dynamic pricing you may have ended up with nothing, who know ? Some people before you gave up because of that. And considering the prices on the secondary market, it seems like a lot of peuple would have love to be proposed the same offer you had.
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Post by stardustez on Sept 3, 2024 14:41:35 GMT -5
Hi everyone, first post here, from Spain, fan of oasis from the 90’s, never saw them live, and have been dreaming with this for years. The day of the ticket go live I was so exited, logged in the laptop and cellphone both my wife and I, I got in the queue number 400k or so and wife got 20k for wembkey, we were for hours waiting anxiously, when she got in she was immediately kicked out. She just screamed and left it with frustration. I kept trying until 16hr or so when I got into again but suddenly only tickets available were those in demand 356£ each, I was left in despair, and just by FOMO and the urge of getting something I bought 2 of them without really knowing what was that. I thought it was some VIP shit, but no… Later I did understand how this was working and now instead of feeling happy to have the tickets I feel scammed, sad. What has this become? This MF of Ticketmaster saying that YOU cannot sell tickets at market price, but THEY CAN? That can get advantage of your FOMO (created by them) and rip you off? Honestly, what was happiness has become sadness and a feeling of being used and scammed. Right now I don’t really feel like spending another 1k£ at least to buy plane and accommodation to Edimburg to see them. I am thinking of doing as they do and selling the tickets in viagogo, cash out and pay my wife a nice trip out, or either just get rid of them. I don’t know if this feeling would change with the time, but it is what it is right now…. Also them not saying a word about this complete bullshit does not help. We feel abandoned. Don’t think they are worth 2k£ to be honest. I get you frustration. I would have probably bought those tickets as well so don’t feel bad. I understand you spent an extra 400£ for these, which hurts, but without dynamic pricing you may have ended up with nothing, who know ? Some people before you gave up because of that. And considering the prices on the secondary market, it seems like a lot of peuple would have love to be proposed the same offer you had. You are completely right. But seeing number 20k in the queue…I was sure we were getting 2 ticket at face value…. There must be an easier way. But well, will see what happens, I expect to get the hype back.
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Post by resurrection89 on Sept 3, 2024 15:07:58 GMT -5
I wonder if Noel and Liam will release a statement on this soon to try and deflect some of the flak they are receiving, rightly or wrongly. I agree with Elias on page 10 that what’s probably happened is Noel and Liam would’ve been unaware of the dynamic pricing. Liam especially seems to be not interested in the business side of things when I’ve watched numerous interviews of him.
Maybe a nice gesture would be if say they put another gig on at Wembley, that anyone who has proof they paid £358 then they get a free ticket or something🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 3, 2024 15:15:05 GMT -5
I wonder if Noel and Liam will release a statement on this soon to try and deflect some of the flak they are receiving, rightly or wrongly. I agree with Elias on page 10 that what’s probably happened is Noel and Liam would’ve been unaware of the dynamic pricing. Liam especially seems to be not interested in the business side of things when I’ve watched numerous interviews of him. Maybe a nice gesture would be if say they put another gig on at Wembley, that anyone who has proof they paid £358 then they get a free ticket or something🤷🏻♂️ It’s not just the people who paid over the odds, it’s all those who queued for ages, and didn’t progress with a purchase as £200 extra had been added on. I feel for them more tbh especially die hard fans who were already stretching it at £150 tickets but can’t afford more, especially £200 more
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Post by resurrection89 on Sept 3, 2024 15:32:17 GMT -5
I wonder if Noel and Liam will release a statement on this soon to try and deflect some of the flak they are receiving, rightly or wrongly. I agree with Elias on page 10 that what’s probably happened is Noel and Liam would’ve been unaware of the dynamic pricing. Liam especially seems to be not interested in the business side of things when I’ve watched numerous interviews of him. Maybe a nice gesture would be if say they put another gig on at Wembley, that anyone who has proof they paid £358 then they get a free ticket or something🤷🏻♂️ It’s not just the people who paid over the odds, it’s all those who queued for ages, and didn’t progress with a purchase as £200 extra had been added on. I feel for them more tbh especially die hard fans who were already stretching it at £150 tickets but can’t afford more, especially £200 more I agree👍 I was one of those thousands. Yeah you’re right, my idea would be them seeing oasis twice and thousands not seeing them once. Maybe something like a pack that gets sent to the ones that paid £358 that includes a t shirt, tour programme, poster or something
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Post by settingson on Sept 3, 2024 15:53:41 GMT -5
Comparing concert ticket prices pre and post (large scale) streaming doesn't really make sense. At the end of the day, however much the bands and their music mean to us, it's just a business. With the streaming companies now making a lot of the money in that business, the other players have to find a way to make their cut. Ticketmaster and their ilk have been a massive beneficiary of the new business model. It just fell in their laps. Yeah Noel And Liam would be on the break of financial ruin if they had pocketed 25 millions instead of 50 And that s not counting marketing (sponsors etc) or merchandising Prices should have been higher Even ! (Lets remember Noel make 2k a day from Wonderwall streams alone, Said so himself) This kind of comment does not apply to such bands. Its not hard to make the difference In theory, I totally agree with you, but rich people just don't think that way. It's never enough and there's always someone with more to compare themselves with. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it's definitely a thing. You see it everywhere ... sports, politics, business ... as well as music.
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Post by macnuggets on Sept 3, 2024 22:18:05 GMT -5
Guys, they're not doing a free gig for anyone who paid the dynamic pricing. If YOU paid for it then you agreed to it, you don't get to take it back.
I don't agree with the Dynamic Pricing at all, but it's been a thing for a long time. Anyone see the post that now it's affecting middle aged white people its massive deal and not right, but no one said anything for the past 5 years when it was always there?
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Post by stardustez on Sept 4, 2024 2:04:11 GMT -5
Guys, they're not doing a free gig for anyone who paid the dynamic pricing. If YOU paid for it then you agreed to it, you don't get to take it back. I don't agree with the Dynamic Pricing at all, but it's been a thing for a long time. Anyone see the post that now it's affecting middle aged white people its massive deal and not right, but no one said anything for the past 5 years when it was always there? I’ve never seen that, I was never told that, I never saw that in the price list. The last two years I have seen Metallica several times, Guns N’ Roses, Pearl Jam and many others, and never heard of this shit. Middle aged white people? What kind of woke bullshit is that?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2024 2:24:00 GMT -5
Guys, they're not doing a free gig for anyone who paid the dynamic pricing. If YOU paid for it then you agreed to it, you don't get to take it back. I don't agree with the Dynamic Pricing at all, but it's been a thing for a long time. Anyone see the post that now it's affecting middle aged white people its massive deal and not right, but no one said anything for the past 5 years when it was always there? I had honestly never come across it before and I won't ever buy a ticket that's subject to it. Even if they dig up The Beatles.
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Post by globe on Sept 4, 2024 2:51:21 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now.
EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2024 2:57:07 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. Yeah they'll soon be squeezing every last drop out of people here.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Sept 4, 2024 2:57:49 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. Yeah they'll soon be squeezing every last drop out of people here. Hope attendance decreases. They are a shit team atm.
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Post by stardustez on Sept 4, 2024 3:05:17 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. No surprise that if any la Liga team was gonna do that, it would be them. The most hated club owners in Spain. Nobody likes them.
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Post by globe on Sept 4, 2024 3:10:53 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. No surprise that if any la Liga team was gonna do that, it would be them. The most hated club owners in Spain. Nobody likes them. Thing is, if they get away with it and the Valencia fans don’t protest against it, other clubs in Spain will do the same. Then it will spread to other places too.
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Post by Four 🍁 Tayback on Sept 4, 2024 3:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 4, 2024 4:21:04 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. I wonder how that would work? Clubs already charge different fees depending on the opposition. So Man City at home will cost more than Ipswich at home. There’s usually 2 or 3 bands. And each club fits in one of them. Then you’ll have varying prices depending on location on the ground. I know with my own club the ground is almost full with season tickets. The remaining tickets go into the member’s ballot but there’s only really a handful of those so I don’t know you would use DP on those. Price increases with every 100 tickets sold?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 4, 2024 4:22:40 GMT -5
Guys, they're not doing a free gig for anyone who paid the dynamic pricing. If YOU paid for it then you agreed to it, you don't get to take it back. I don't agree with the Dynamic Pricing at all, but it's been a thing for a long time. Anyone see the post that now it's affecting middle aged white people its massive deal and not right, but no one said anything for the past 5 years when it was always there? I’ve never seen that, I was never told that, I never saw that in the price list. The last two years I have seen Metallica several times, Guns N’ Roses, Pearl Jam and many others, and never heard of this shit. Middle aged white people? What kind of woke bullshit is that? Apparently it was introduced BECAUSE you saw Metallica several times. The universe needs to right its wrongs.
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Post by supersonic84 on Sept 4, 2024 4:43:12 GMT -5
Dynamic pricing is a complete and utter scam. It's there to prey on the desperation of fans FOMO. Calling tickets for OASIS "in demand" is an absolute nonsense - of course they are in demand, its OASIS live in concert 16 years after splitting up.
At no point beforehand were we informed that a dynamic pricing structure would be in place for these gigs. The ticket prices were advertised 2/3 days before they went on sale. That gave fans just about enough time to sort finances out and budget accordingly for the ticket type that suites their financial position best. Those advertised prices should have been what fans paid end of story. For Ticketmaster to suddenly stop sales/block the queue or whatever they did at around midday and put a 150% mark up on the advertised ticket prices is nothing short of legalised robbery/extortion. There has to be more regulation in the ticket market because it's well out of control.
However, Oasis must have agreed to this pricing policy as it is the at the artists discretion if they opt in, or out of the dynamic pricing structure. They are rightly getting slaughtered online for this and will continue to do so. They, (especially Liam) are supposed to be men of the people, have they forgotten their roots and that most of their fans come from similar backgrounds and upbringings as them? For them to forget that and basically bleed fans dry is very poor. They have dropped the ball here big time and should at least comment and explain why it was allowed to happen, or guarantee fans it wont happen again if they do go on to do more shows.
I know none of us were 'forced' to pay these prices but when you join an online queue and have a ticket type and budget in mind and then suddenly you get to the select tickets page after hours of waiting only to you see that the £150 standing ticket you wanted is now £335 just because its "in demand" is definitely going to leave a very bitter taste in your mouth. What do you do? Walk away and forever regret not getting to see them live again? Or pay it and go onto beans on toast for the rest of the month or months and maybe just scrape by with the mortgage and bills.
Thats my tuppence worth anyway.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 4, 2024 4:54:24 GMT -5
People keep saying ticket prices were advertised beforehand but my recollection is we didn’t seen them until the pre-sale?
The only thing we saw before that was from MCD saying prices would start at €86. There were reports in some papers about £150 standing tickets but I don’t remember seeing the actual prices and tiers advertised anywhere (although I could be wrong).
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Post by globe on Sept 4, 2024 4:57:47 GMT -5
Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here yet- haven’t went back and read through it all but I see Valencia are introducing dynamic pricing for tickets for their home games now. EPL clubs will be rubbing their hands with glee at that. I wonder how that would work? Clubs already charge different fees depending on the opposition. So Man City at home will cost more than Ipswich at home. There’s usually 2 or 3 bands. And each club fits in one of them. Then you’ll have varying prices depending on location on the ground. I know with my own club the ground is almost full with season tickets. The remaining tickets go into the member’s ballot but there’s only really a handful of those so I don’t know you would use DP on those. Price increases with every 100 tickets sold? Not sure, but they’d find a way. Perhaps in your club’s situation they’d do away with that ballot and just have a free for all with dynamic pricing. Let’s face it, these elite clubs would probably rather not have season tickets now and just open each seat in the whole stadium up to the highest bidder for each game.
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