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Post by AppleScruff on Sept 28, 2024 9:05:36 GMT -5
In all seriousness - To me the question "which is inferior - Soldier On or Sail On?" isn't even relevant, both are just examples of songs recorded by the brand "Oasis" or written by the same person who wrote the "real Oasis" songs, but none of those are "real Oasis" songs, and thats what im trying to say here - even HC brought an Oasis classic such as SCYHO, but nowadays...no way they could come up with an album full of worthy songs. So imagine you're waiting 15 year for an Oasis gig, just to stand there and wait for them to go through some promotion of a throwaway single like "Shock of the lighting"... If you were at the Stone Roses reunion gigs, man you know what a bummer it was for the crowd when they played that awful "one for all" song, when instead they could have played Ten Story Love Song.... But when was the last album full of worthy songs? Be Here Now? Every album arguably since then has plenty of filler. An album largely written by Noel and sung by Liam would 100% be a worthwhile exercise. Forget about the gigs, we’re talking a maximum of 2 new tracks being played anyway. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 28, 2024 9:50:00 GMT -5
Yeah its almost weird, but you are right, Be Here Now is the last Oasis record that's strong from start to finish. The other ones all go downhill after the first half (DBTT, DOYS), or are weak in the middle (HC), or a stupid rollercoaster of good, great and weak (SOTSOG).
I would even argue that BHN is the most perfect album Oasis has ever released, in the song selection.
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Post by rlx on Sept 28, 2024 9:55:50 GMT -5
In all seriousness - To me the question "which is inferior - Soldier On or Sail On?" isn't even relevant, both are just examples of songs recorded by the brand "Oasis" or written by the same person who wrote the "real Oasis" songs, but none of those are "real Oasis" songs, and thats what im trying to say here - even HC brought an Oasis classic such as SCYHO, but nowadays...no way they could come up with an album full of worthy songs. So imagine you're waiting 15 year for an Oasis gig, just to stand there and wait for them to go through some promotion of a throwaway single like "Shock of the lighting"... If you were at the Stone Roses reunion gigs, man you know what a bummer it was for the crowd when they played that awful "one for all" song, when instead they could have played Ten Story Love Song.... But when was the last album full of worthy songs? Be Here Now? Every album arguably since then has plenty of filler. An album largely written by Noel and sung by Liam would 100% be a worthwhile exercise. Forget about the gigs, we’re talking a maximum of 2 new tracks being played anyway. NGHFB self titled |
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Post by Firefly on Sept 28, 2024 11:16:27 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason for them not to release an eighth album. Noel has been on a writing tear ever since they broke up. We have all suspected that he has been stockpiling away Oasis sounding songs for a while, and on top of it he has spoken of shelving a stadium rock-like sounding album. Liam tweeted the next Oasis album is coming in November. I don't mean to get everybody's hopes up, but these people don't have writer's block or perfectionist problems like Guns N' Roses. Just like the chorus of Cigarettes and Alcohol goes, the Gallagher brothers gotta make it happen! I don't suspect this, really; if he had been, what was the sense in releasing "Lock All the Doors"? Or "Freaky Teeth"? Or "Come On Outside?". You could say that they were pre-written and he was developing new songs, but I'm not convinced. It's a nice idea to think he's been writing "Some Might Say" tracks in secret for the last decade, but I doubt he had the slightest intention of a reunion pre-divorce, and would have released any song he wrote in that time if he thought it was good for him. Perhaps he had songs written at home during the Moon era, which didn't work for the studio-only method of that album and then were too upbeat for Council Skies, but outside of that, I doubt it. He once told Matt Morgan he had songs put aside that he loved but in the end he couldn't sing them, in not so many words but that was the gist of it. Might be unlikely but not impossible that he's got a few left overs that are just right for Liam. |
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Post by bathqueen on Sept 28, 2024 12:18:55 GMT -5
IMO, DOYS was a weird compilation made of fake-Oasis-rocker Bag It Up, pseudo-sophisticated-chord-progression Falling Down, table-banging level of composing in Aint Got Nothin', and i have no idea what anyone was thinking when agreeing to record The Nature of Reality.
I have absolutely no need in another attempt such as this, and i seriously believe a re-recording and release of some old b-side like Stay Young as an a-side would be more appropriate than some Liam sung "heres a candle for your birthday cake".
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We're all praying they would actually bare with one another throughout the tour so, adding an album recording session to that pressure??
Nope, no thank u.........
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Post by Supersonic on Sept 30, 2024 9:48:14 GMT -5
When do you think they'd announce the album?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 30, 2024 10:25:57 GMT -5
When do you think they'd announce the album? Early spring for an early summer release. Gotta flog the merch stands with new album shit. |
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Post by drselker on Sept 30, 2024 14:59:34 GMT -5
I don't suspect this, really; if he had been, what was the sense in releasing "Lock All the Doors"? Or "Freaky Teeth"? Or "Come On Outside?". You could say that they were pre-written and he was developing new songs, but I'm not convinced. It's a nice idea to think he's been writing "Some Might Say" tracks in secret for the last decade, but I doubt he had the slightest intention of a reunion pre-divorce, and would have released any song he wrote in that time if he thought it was good for him. Perhaps he had songs written at home during the Moon era, which didn't work for the studio-only method of that album and then were too upbeat for Council Skies, but outside of that, I doubt it. He once told Matt Morgan he had songs put aside that he loved but in the end he couldn't sing them, in not so many words but that was the gist of it. Might be unlikely but not impossible that he's got a few left overs that are just right for Liam. Sounds like a certain stadium rock album that was scrapped  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 30, 2024 15:38:02 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason for them not to release an eighth album. Noel has been on a writing tear ever since they broke up. We have all suspected that he has been stockpiling away Oasis sounding songs for a while, and on top of it he has spoken of shelving a stadium rock-like sounding album. Liam tweeted the next Oasis album is coming in November. I don't mean to get everybody's hopes up, but these people don't have writer's block or perfectionist problems like Guns N' Roses. Just like the chorus of Cigarettes and Alcohol goes, the Gallagher brothers gotta make it happen! I don't suspect this, really; if he had been, what was the sense in releasing "Lock All the Doors"? Or "Freaky Teeth"? Or "Come On Outside?". You could say that they were pre-written and he was developing new songs, but I'm not convinced. It's a nice idea to think he's been writing "Some Might Say" tracks in secret for the last decade, but I doubt he had the slightest intention of a reunion pre-divorce, and would have released any song he wrote in that time if he thought it was good for him. Perhaps he had songs written at home during the Moon era, which didn't work for the studio-only method of that album and then were too upbeat for Council Skies, but outside of that, I doubt it. I find it odd that people think Noel's got 10 bangers lying around marked 'Oasis'. I'm not currently expecting anything at all. I think for Oasis to continue as a studio band they would have to take a different approach and that is absolutely not going to happen. |
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Post by Terrasolo on Sept 30, 2024 17:10:20 GMT -5
I don't suspect this, really; if he had been, what was the sense in releasing "Lock All the Doors"? Or "Freaky Teeth"? Or "Come On Outside?". You could say that they were pre-written and he was developing new songs, but I'm not convinced. It's a nice idea to think he's been writing "Some Might Say" tracks in secret for the last decade, but I doubt he had the slightest intention of a reunion pre-divorce, and would have released any song he wrote in that time if he thought it was good for him. Perhaps he had songs written at home during the Moon era, which didn't work for the studio-only method of that album and then were too upbeat for Council Skies, but outside of that, I doubt it. I find it odd that people think Noel's got 10 bangers lying around marked 'Oasis'. I'm not currently expecting anything at all. I think for Oasis to continue as a studio band they would have to take a different approach and that is absolutely not going to happen. I have a feeling he has a few tunes that would be perfect for Oasis, in fact I remember before Liam started a solo career, he offered to give him a few songs that he had ready - I'm sure knowing full well that Liam would not ask for them. But I do believe that Noel still has a song book, and has unfinished songs, or even complete songs that await their day in the sunshine. However, I more so believe that all of those times he said over the last 15 years, that when he writes a song that sounds a bit Oasis, he starts over, I think he simply means that he finds a way to play or rewrite the tune to sound less Oasis and use it like that. So no, I'm doubtful that he had a full Oasis album ready to go. That said, I do think that he has a magic gift to take songs at the ready and make them either Oasis, or NGHFBs, so who knows. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 30, 2024 18:07:05 GMT -5
I find it odd that people think Noel's got 10 bangers lying around marked 'Oasis'. I'm not currently expecting anything at all. I think for Oasis to continue as a studio band they would have to take a different approach and that is absolutely not going to happen. I have a feeling he has a few tunes that would be perfect for Oasis, in fact I remember before Liam started a solo career, he offered to give him a few songs that he had ready - I'm sure knowing full well that Liam would not ask for them. But I do believe that Noel still has a song book, and has unfinished songs, or even complete songs that await their day in the sunshine. However, I more so believe that all of those times he said over the last 15 years, that when he writes a song that sounds a bit Oasis, he starts over, I think he simply means that he finds a way to play or rewrite the tune to sound less Oasis and use it like that. So no, I'm doubtful that he had a full Oasis album ready to go. That said, I do think that he has a magic gift to take songs at the ready and make them either Oasis, or NGHFBs, so who knows. I'm not convinced that offer was particularly genuine. And the question should always be asked that if a song is unfinished, why is it unfinished? I'm not pointing this at you specifically, I just think there's a bit of wishful thinking happening. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Sept 30, 2024 21:34:06 GMT -5
Wouldn’t a new album interfere with WTSMG 30th sales? Feels like this tour is about pumping that record for more global sales.
No one wants a new album more than me, but I’m not seeing a lot of evidence for hope, other than people wanting to believe. Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 30, 2024 21:42:13 GMT -5
The last time Noel had stockpiled some 'classics' they ended up being Let There Be Love, Stop The Clocks and Record Machine.
I'm not holding my breath over anything that he's put to one side. Just let him be inspired by being a rocker again and write some tunes.
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Post by Gas Panic on Oct 1, 2024 0:32:27 GMT -5
Wouldn’t a new album interfere with WTSMG 30th sales? Feels like this tour is about pumping that record for more global sales. No one wants a new album more than me, but I’m not seeing a lot of evidence for hope, other than people wanting to believe. Hope I’m wrong. My hope is the new album comes in May before the tour starts, to get people even more pumped for the shows. Then release an uber MG boxset in October/November for the 30th anniversary, to cash in on Christmas sales. I dont think this is unlikely, as someone else said this isn't a GNR or Rolling Stones scenario where there's a reluctance to release new music. I'm definitely expecting new Oasis music, sooner rather than later. |
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Post by NicOasis on Oct 1, 2024 1:25:28 GMT -5
My fantasy is Oasis The Lost Album using that pretty gold logo they made to tease the reunion.
I just want to hear rkid singing You Know We Can't Go Back. (Not AI, get outta here with that nonsense)
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Post by yeayeayeah on Oct 1, 2024 3:23:51 GMT -5
The best part of any of the post 90s albums was the build up to release day. I hope we get to relive that one more time.
Noel's solo albums are so much better than late Oasis because he wrote all the songs.
If the new album is all Noel written, I think we could get something special again.
I hope it's not just a live album.
They should get Microdot back to do the artwork too.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 1, 2024 4:05:36 GMT -5
I don't suspect this, really; if he had been, what was the sense in releasing "Lock All the Doors"? Or "Freaky Teeth"? Or "Come On Outside?". You could say that they were pre-written and he was developing new songs, but I'm not convinced. It's a nice idea to think he's been writing "Some Might Say" tracks in secret for the last decade, but I doubt he had the slightest intention of a reunion pre-divorce, and would have released any song he wrote in that time if he thought it was good for him. Perhaps he had songs written at home during the Moon era, which didn't work for the studio-only method of that album and then were too upbeat for Council Skies, but outside of that, I doubt it. I think for Oasis to continue as a studio band they would have to take a different approach and that is absolutely not going to happen. Why? I believe that if the tour goes well and both are happy with it, there’s a chance for a new album. And since both have tried out quite a lot musically in the last 15 years, they could certainly tale a new approach for a new album aswell. But it’s all hard to say because we haven’t even seen them together yet, and we’re painfully waiting for an interview or anything |
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Post by trippertrasher on Oct 1, 2024 5:27:29 GMT -5
When do you think they'd announce the album? given morning glory reissue next year potentially I think sooner rather than later. I’m convinced we’ll get something this side of Christmas with an album drop Easter time. Wishful thinking but who knows |
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 1, 2024 6:17:16 GMT -5
The best part of any of the post 90s albums was the build up to release day. I hope we get to relive that one more time. Noel's solo albums are so much better than late Oasis because he wrote all the songs. If the new album is all Noel written, I think we could get something special again. I hope it's not just a live album. They should get Microdot back to do the artwork too. Yep!! |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Oct 1, 2024 7:26:28 GMT -5
The best part of any of the post 90s albums was the build up to release day. I hope we get to relive that one more time. Noel's solo albums are so much better than late Oasis because he wrote all the songs. If the new album is all Noel written, I think we could get something special again. I hope it's not just a live album. They should get Microdot back to do the artwork too. I don't agree. If Noel wrote an Oasis album today like the last 3 HFB albums I wouldn't buy even half a song. For me the ugliest and most atrocious things after Oasis came from Noel's pen. If there is a new Oasis album I hope they will be based on old unreleased demos. Or I hope it has a new qualitative inspiration. Otherwise I'd rather not have any Oasis albums. |
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Post by racingman11 on Oct 1, 2024 8:16:29 GMT -5
In this day and age only one banger will do the trick. It's not like we're in an album era anymore.
And Oasis is a band of the 90's, so no-one expects them to release seminal music in 2025, just as no-one remember any tune of the Stones from the 90's.
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Post by ain on Oct 1, 2024 8:24:41 GMT -5
Maybe 'nothing nowhere' is a noel tune  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 1, 2024 10:44:21 GMT -5
Noel always said he accomplished all of Oasis' goals except one, getting a #1 album in America. I think if everything broke right next spring/summer, no major artist releases or phenomenon going on in the charts, they could squeak out a #1 album. Its a ton of what ifs and luck.
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Post by rlx on Oct 1, 2024 13:18:46 GMT -5
The best part of any of the post 90s albums was the build up to release day. I hope we get to relive that one more time. Noel's solo albums are so much better than late Oasis because he wrote all the songs. If the new album is all Noel written, I think we could get something special again. I hope it's not just a live album. They should get Microdot back to do the artwork too. I don't agree. If Noel wrote an Oasis album today like the last 3 HFB albums I wouldn't buy even half a song. For me the ugliest and most atrocious things after Oasis came from Noel's pen. If there is a new Oasis album I hope they will be based on old unreleased demos. Or I hope it has a new qualitative inspiration. Otherwise I'd rather not have any Oasis albums. Man entered the olympics for the "worst take" category |
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Post by drselker on Oct 1, 2024 14:02:18 GMT -5
As long as it doesn't sound like most of C'mon You Know (and most of Beady Eye), I'd be happy if a new album were similar in style to any of the solo albums. I think more than anything hoping they sound like DM/MG/BHN is the wishful thinking that's going around more than the existence of a new album itself (Of course if they made something 90's sounding it would also be great)
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