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Post by jaq515 on Oct 5, 2024 18:52:06 GMT -5
our posts merged. I just cant see how the problem with ticketmaster is that if you make living selling tickets makes ticketmaster a problem .. the person making a living from taking tickets from fans to make profit off is the problem to me Careful there, I never said Ticketmaster was bad because they don't allow people to make a living reselling tickets. I'm not defending resellers, I just don't get bent out of shape like others (not you) when talking about this issue. I only used an example of a reseller to make a point as to why sites like Stubhub exist in the first place. Reselling will never end, not as long as there is a demand. Any demand for a good or service creates someone willing to fulfill it. Sometimes legally, sometimes not. But I do believe that giving Ticketmaster more power than it already has cannot be a good thing. There is no solution on this topic because artists or sporting events are localized and finite in time. Oasis can't play 8 nights in Soldier Field and then play another 6 in Dallas, and then 4 in Seattle and then 5 in Atlanta. If they did, supply would exceed demand and tickets would be dirt cheap. Like I said previously, even events that explicitly prohibit transferring and reselling tickets are not immune to resellers. And we might see a ticket only makes a reseller $50 in profit, but if it's part of an organization that bought 1000 tickets, that's 50K in profit out of one single event, on one day, on one location. There's events every day, everywhere, for all kinds of things, sporting events, music events, theater, museums, movies, amusement parks (Disney for example), comedy shows, circus or other performance shows, zoos, museums, gun shows, air shows, lectures or conferences, horse races, nascar or other motosports, charity events, fashion events, haunted houses, exclusive parties, wine tasting courses, culture festivals, professional or networking events, political rallies, pet competitions, gaming!!!! that one is huge I can't believe I didn't think about it sooner, escape rooms, podcast events (there was a mini market for buying tickets to go see Bill Simmons late last year or early this year in Chicago), etc. never said you said TM was bad at all was literally just paraphrasing what you said which was 'So of course for the consumer, today, Ticketmaster is the better option. Problem is ticketmaster right now only allows seller to list for face value, so if you make your living reselling tickets, you're not gonna use Ticketmaster. Resellers go to Stubhub and list the tickets for as much as they think they can make' I think if you bought something you can no longer use .. sell at face value .. if you bought something to just make someone pay well over the odds thats not rock n roll mister |
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 5, 2024 20:05:38 GMT -5
Careful there, I never said Ticketmaster was bad because they don't allow people to make a living reselling tickets. I'm not defending resellers, I just don't get bent out of shape like others (not you) when talking about this issue. I only used an example of a reseller to make a point as to why sites like Stubhub exist in the first place. Reselling will never end, not as long as there is a demand. Any demand for a good or service creates someone willing to fulfill it. Sometimes legally, sometimes not. But I do believe that giving Ticketmaster more power than it already has cannot be a good thing. There is no solution on this topic because artists or sporting events are localized and finite in time. Oasis can't play 8 nights in Soldier Field and then play another 6 in Dallas, and then 4 in Seattle and then 5 in Atlanta. If they did, supply would exceed demand and tickets would be dirt cheap. Like I said previously, even events that explicitly prohibit transferring and reselling tickets are not immune to resellers. And we might see a ticket only makes a reseller $50 in profit, but if it's part of an organization that bought 1000 tickets, that's 50K in profit out of one single event, on one day, on one location. There's events every day, everywhere, for all kinds of things, sporting events, music events, theater, museums, movies, amusement parks (Disney for example), comedy shows, circus or other performance shows, zoos, museums, gun shows, air shows, lectures or conferences, horse races, nascar or other motosports, charity events, fashion events, haunted houses, exclusive parties, wine tasting courses, culture festivals, professional or networking events, political rallies, pet competitions, gaming!!!! that one is huge I can't believe I didn't think about it sooner, escape rooms, podcast events (there was a mini market for buying tickets to go see Bill Simmons late last year or early this year in Chicago), etc. never said you said TM was bad at all was literally just paraphrasing what you said which was 'So of course for the consumer, today, Ticketmaster is the better option. Problem is ticketmaster right now only allows seller to list for face value, so if you make your living reselling tickets, you're not gonna use Ticketmaster. Resellers go to Stubhub and list the tickets for as much as they think they can make' I think if you bought something you can no longer use .. sell at face value .. if you bought something to just make someone pay well over the odds thats not rock n roll mister Unfortunately most resellers are not individuals. They are businesses with computers that snap up thousands of tickets. It’s exploitive not capitalism. Don’t know how anyone can defend that. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2024 3:30:46 GMT -5
never said you said TM was bad at all was literally just paraphrasing what you said which was 'So of course for the consumer, today, Ticketmaster is the better option. Problem is ticketmaster right now only allows seller to list for face value, so if you make your living reselling tickets, you're not gonna use Ticketmaster. Resellers go to Stubhub and list the tickets for as much as they think they can make' I think if you bought something you can no longer use .. sell at face value .. if you bought something to just make someone pay well over the odds thats not rock n roll mister Unfortunately most resellers are not individuals. They are businesses with computers that snap up thousands of tickets. It’s exploitive not capitalism. Don’t know how anyone can defend that. I’ll agree with you there, you make a very valid point. |
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Post by MadCyril78 on Oct 6, 2024 6:18:18 GMT -5
Somehow managed to get 8 tickets for New Jersey. Over the moon. Roll on 2025
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Post by Plantpot on Oct 6, 2024 11:19:17 GMT -5
Somehow managed to get 8 tickets for New Jersey. Over the moon. Roll on 2025 Do you need all eight, or are you willing to unload two of them to a fellow disloyal fan?  |
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Post by herticalvorizon on Oct 6, 2024 13:18:25 GMT -5
What's the policy on resell here? I am not selling tickets I'm wondering because I'm looking to buy and don't know if people here will list some if they have extras or whatever
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Post by bt95 on Oct 6, 2024 15:47:05 GMT -5
I just can't foresee a new album. Or if there is, then I doubt it will be out in time for the tour. This is a reunion tour and they'll play the hits - maybe one new song. Noel will be fine. Either way. Oasis always went into the studio, even when they shouldn’t. The shows aren’t for a year. I think it’s nailed on! I mean Noel would have to totally change how he's made albums for the last 20 years now though (ofc, it's not the biggest thing he's changed!) I'd be surprised, personally, but we'll see - it's the time for surprises. But it's not like the strength of these ticket sales is anything to do with a new album. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2024 16:05:01 GMT -5
Oasis always went into the studio, even when they shouldn’t. The shows aren’t for a year. I think it’s nailed on! I mean Noel would have to totally change how he's made albums for the last 20 years now though (ofc, it's not the biggest thing he's changed!) I'd be surprised, personally, but we'll see - it's the time for surprises. But it's not like the strength of these ticket sales is anything to do with a new album. They do in the sense that there’s a strong demand for one. |
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 6, 2024 16:10:01 GMT -5
I mean Noel would have to totally change how he's made albums for the last 20 years now though (ofc, it's not the biggest thing he's changed!) I'd be surprised, personally, but we'll see - it's the time for surprises. But it's not like the strength of these ticket sales is anything to do with a new album. They do in the sense that there’s a strong demand for one. (ill preface I adore BHN) but on those thoughts thats just BHN all over again |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2024 16:12:59 GMT -5
They do in the sense that there’s a strong demand for one. (ill preface I adore BHN) but on those thoughts thats just BHN all over again Unless they were really motivated to make one. Seems like they are. And it seems like Noel has written a ‘defiant rock’ album. Liam straight out said a November release (which would make sense with the timing, actually, but I’m skeptical about that specific detail). |
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 6, 2024 16:16:09 GMT -5
(ill preface I adore BHN) but on those thoughts thats just BHN all over again Unless they were really motivated to make one. Seems like they are. And it seems like Noel has written a ‘defiant rock’ album. Liam hinted at a November release (which would make sense, with the t8ming actually. but I’m skeptical about that specific detail). I think there will be one from what Liam has said, what noel said and the time until the gigs and think was matt asking about the Sony deal (which didnt see if anyone answered) could all be a tidy package coming together. Just saying if they was going to make one 'cos of demand' which is what those few posts was sort of saying that be a bad idea |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Oct 6, 2024 16:35:02 GMT -5
The “November” tweet that Liam posted was in April, and was before the DM30 tour where he was still taking shots at Noel on stage (he’s playing hard to get, box of chocolates, etc).
I know that tweet has fueled a lot of speculation but there’s no evidence — other than people who believe on blind faith — that they are making a new album.
Noel is old school, so if we don’t see constant tabloid shots of both he and Liam going in and out of studios soon, there is no new album. No, it doesn’t count when Noel recently went to his old studio to pick up one guitar.
Is Noel sending Liam tracks “in secret”? It would break 30 years of pattern and behavior, but God I hope so, cause all I care about is new music.
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 6, 2024 16:50:13 GMT -5
They have a lot of time to do an album realistically when will rehearsals start may/June?
So 9 months to record that new baby
Im sure noel said in an interview recently he was going to on holiday for few months France, ibiza etc then spending some time in LA with friends so he could put some stuff together then ready to do properly early next year
rather than linking the mirror he said it on Matt Morgan
"I’ll be all over the place on holiday. I’m going to the South of France for a week and then I’m going to Ibiza for a week and then I’m back in London for a week and then I’m going to Greece for a couple of weeks and then maybe off to LA to see some friends."
obv he could just be going to see friends or could be meeting with some music friends maybe? obv who knows
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Post by blaskiboo on Oct 6, 2024 16:52:09 GMT -5
I think I'd be more surprised if there wasn't a new album than if there was.
I can't imagine either of them being content to sit around twiddling their thumbs and doing nothing creative for the next few months.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2024 16:55:14 GMT -5
The “November” tweet that Liam posted was in April, and was before the DM30 tour where he was still taking shots at Noel on stage (he’s playing hard to get, box of chocolates, etc). I know that tweet has fueled a lot of speculation but there’s no evidence — other than people who believe on blind faith — that they are making a new album. Noel is old school, so if we don’t see constant tabloid shots of both he and Liam going in and out of studios soon, there is no new album. No, it doesn’t count when Noel recently went to his old studio to pick up one guitar. Is Noel sending Liam tracks “in secret”? It would break 30 years of pattern and behavior, but God I hope so, cause all I care about is new music. If I remember correctly, the BHN lead up and hype was surrounded by intentional secrecy…. Are they employing the same marketing strategy here with Live ‘25? I think they are, you know. |
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 6, 2024 16:58:23 GMT -5
I want a new album. But I would prefer it be after this tour. I want a greatest hits tour. Save the new tunes for the next tour. Maybe just a new single.
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 6, 2024 17:02:24 GMT -5
I want a new album. But I would prefer it be after this tour. I want a greatest hits tour. Save the new tunes for the next tour. Maybe just a new single. I said this yesterday and think will be this. live 25 is the reunion tour, massive build up and hype, then album out late 25 then another 6 month tour for 26 (as obv cant be called live 25) then call it a day or think about more of a future |
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Post by bt95 on Oct 6, 2024 17:13:11 GMT -5
I think I'd be more surprised if there wasn't a new album than if there was. I can't imagine either of them being content to sit around twiddling their thumbs and doing nothing creative for the next few months. I mean, Noel definitely will be quite happy counting his money. Look, it'd be great if there was a new album. I'm not sure it's needed - I think their legacy does the talking and there's already too many great songs to squeeze in. But perhaps they will, or there'll be a song or two. But that would require them to be in the studio together. For a fair bit. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 6, 2024 17:26:35 GMT -5
I’m still rock hard after scoring tickets got MetLife. August 31st can’t come soon enough.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 6, 2024 17:37:03 GMT -5
I’m still rock hard after scoring tickets got MetLife. August 31st can’t come soon enough. I hope you and everyone else on here that's going has a brilliant time. You're a veteran of the 90s glory days, aren't you? It would be wonderful if the Gallaghers could give you something that rivalled the memories of the peaks they ascended to then.
They have the songs; they just need to do right by them on the night. Here's hoping!
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Post by acquiesce19 on Oct 6, 2024 21:12:11 GMT -5
I’m still rock hard after scoring tickets got MetLife. August 31st can’t come soon enough. See you there! I'm bringing my 11-year-old son, Liam... |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 7, 2024 3:21:56 GMT -5
We should do a meet up for MetLife second night…. and sneak Beady in if his ticket fails (lol).
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 7, 2024 4:47:47 GMT -5
We should do a meet up for MetLife second night…. and sneak Beady in if his ticket fails (lol). (this is banter not being serious) but there is a sweet irony that you manifested the reunion to happen with this thread but you'll not end seeing them (sure you Will really).. You'll still be able to hear from the outside tho!! |
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 7, 2024 5:26:34 GMT -5
What's the policy on resell here? I am not selling tickets I'm wondering because I'm looking to buy and don't know if people here will list some if they have extras or whatever This is a particular thread for that case: forum.live4ever.uk.com/post/1762352/threadPlease read this word by our webm@ster before using above thread: L4E has no way of verifying the authenticity of tickets offered for sale on our Box Office board. Please use your discretion when giving out your personal address and email to vendors unknown to you. .
Beware of ripoffs and sellers making profits from goods they have no rights for. Let's keep the deals on this board fair and square.
Cheers
webmasterforum.live4ever.uk.com/thread/63800/read-before-using-bulletin-boardAll the posts regarding rip-off, posts made by touts or a professinal tickets re-saler will be deleted and their accounts will be deleted at once. |
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Post by Plantpot on Oct 7, 2024 10:16:06 GMT -5
We should do a meet up for MetLife second night…. and sneak Beady in if his ticket fails (lol). Not a bad idea. My fellow oldies should remember this, but an official Live4ever meetup was organized back in 2005 when Oasis played Madison Square Garden [Mustang Harry's (Sally's), if I recall correctly]. Great times! |
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