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Post by neila83 on Mar 23, 2024 11:28:47 GMT -5
It's no wonder bands feel entitled to take the piss when judging by this forum, their fans will defend their favourite artist doing things they'd be appalled by anyone else doing.
75 quid for less than an hour is a piss take. LG and JS know what people have paid, there are plenty of ways they could play more songs, they choose not to. That's on them. I would think they'd be embarrassed when the lights go up but apparently not.
You know, you can like Liam Gallagher and still acknowledge that this is poor. You don't have to defend literally everything a musician you like does. That's weird. The story that they were open about this won't fly. When people bought tickets did they receive a message warning it would be a less than 60 minute gig of 10 songs? Liam has made a huge point of the fact since Beady Eye ended that it was a mistake not to play Oasis songs, now he will, and that's what people have received at his gigs. The idea people should listen to all the recent media interviews before buying tickets is bizarre, outside this forum noone does that. People have seen Liam Gallagher for years now doing Oasis songs, that's what they think they'll get. Especially when he's playing outside the UK.
Not only that, but from the video I saw of Jumping Jack Flash they're getting an extremely off key singer as well. Should probably find another cover.
I'd be mad if I saw anyone and they gave me 10 songs for 75 quid, however legendary they are. But noone else does that so I don't need to worry. It's just a weird weird thing for an act to do at their own gigs.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 23, 2024 12:44:38 GMT -5
It's no wonder bands feel entitled to take the piss when judging by this forum, their fans will defend their favourite artist doing things they'd be appalled by anyone else doing. 75 quid for less than an hour is a piss take. LG and JS know what people have paid, there are plenty of ways they could play more songs, they choose not to. That's on them. I would think they'd be embarrassed when the lights go up but apparently not. You know, you can like Liam Gallagher and still acknowledge that this is poor. You don't have to defend literally everything a musician you like does. That's weird. The story that they were open about this won't fly. When people bought tickets did they receive a message warning it would be a less than 60 minute gig of 10 songs? Liam has made a huge point of the fact since Beady Eye ended that it was a mistake not to play Oasis songs, now he will, and that's what people have received at his gigs. The idea people should listen to all the recent media interviews before buying tickets is bizarre, outside this forum noone does that. People have seen Liam Gallagher for years now doing Oasis songs, that's what they think they'll get. Especially when he's playing outside the UK. Not only that, but from the video I saw of Jumping Jack Flash they're getting an extremely off key singer as well. Should probably find another cover. I'd be mad if I saw anyone and they gave me 10 songs for 75 quid, however legendary they are. But noone else does that so I don't need to worry. It's just a weird weird thing for an act to do at their own gigs. You didn’t get a ticket then? 😂 You can pay it or not, it’s that simple. Frankly it would be weird to be doing Oasis or Stone Roses songs as you’re asking one or the other to do a lot more than one cover. Maybe John Squire having written a decent album wants to let it stand on its own. Don’t most new musical ventures play what they’ve got? It seems increasingly common these days that fans of a band or artist just want them to be a jukebox.
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Post by standonit on Mar 23, 2024 14:29:51 GMT -5
Don’t most new musical ventures play what they’ve got? If you're going to see a new band of 21-year olds touring their debut album and tickets cost £20, then yeah that's fair enough. Most new acts aren't charging £75 and haven't had solo careers beforehand that have produced 60-odd tracks they could choose from, they don't even need to go down the covering Oasis/Roses route (which I agree would be a bit weird, but they've obviously done Champagne Supernova together in the past anyway). LG&JS only rehearsing 45 minutes of music was a choice they made, it wasn't their only option. I enjoyed the gig, it was just a bit deflating when the lights go up and the gig is over just as most gigs are normally starting to peak.
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Post by reubenwhitee on Mar 23, 2024 18:18:43 GMT -5
Mars to Liverpool was lowered in pitch tonight, looks like it was to help Liam with the vocals
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 23, 2024 19:02:46 GMT -5
Don’t most new musical ventures play what they’ve got? If you're going to see a new band of 21-year olds touring their debut album and tickets cost £20, then yeah that's fair enough. Most new acts aren't charging £75 and haven't had solo careers beforehand that have produced 60-odd tracks they could choose from, they don't even need to go down the covering Oasis/Roses route (which I agree would be a bit weird, but they've obviously done Champagne Supernova together in the past anyway). LG&JS only rehearsing 45 minutes of music was a choice they made, it wasn't their only option. I enjoyed the gig, it was just a bit deflating when the lights go up and the gig is over just as most gigs are normally starting to peak. They didn't hide what they were going to do. I haven't seen on them this tour, too steep for me at the moment. But if people have the money then good luck to them. They played what they had. The last thing you want is for them to become fan jukeboxes. It's their art, for better or worse they should perform it how they want
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Post by neila83 on Mar 23, 2024 20:50:29 GMT -5
It's no wonder bands feel entitled to take the piss when judging by this forum, their fans will defend their favourite artist doing things they'd be appalled by anyone else doing. 75 quid for less than an hour is a piss take. LG and JS know what people have paid, there are plenty of ways they could play more songs, they choose not to. That's on them. I would think they'd be embarrassed when the lights go up but apparently not. You know, you can like Liam Gallagher and still acknowledge that this is poor. You don't have to defend literally everything a musician you like does. That's weird. The story that they were open about this won't fly. When people bought tickets did they receive a message warning it would be a less than 60 minute gig of 10 songs? Liam has made a huge point of the fact since Beady Eye ended that it was a mistake not to play Oasis songs, now he will, and that's what people have received at his gigs. The idea people should listen to all the recent media interviews before buying tickets is bizarre, outside this forum noone does that. People have seen Liam Gallagher for years now doing Oasis songs, that's what they think they'll get. Especially when he's playing outside the UK. Not only that, but from the video I saw of Jumping Jack Flash they're getting an extremely off key singer as well. Should probably find another cover. I'd be mad if I saw anyone and they gave me 10 songs for 75 quid, however legendary they are. But noone else does that so I don't need to worry. It's just a weird weird thing for an act to do at their own gigs. You didn’t get a ticket then? 😂 You can pay it or not, it’s that simple. Frankly it would be weird to be doing Oasis or Stone Roses songs as you’re asking one or the other to do a lot more than one cover. Maybe John Squire having written a decent album wants to let it stand on its own. Don’t most new musical ventures play what they’ve got? It seems increasingly common these days that fans of a band or artist just want them to be a jukebox. The excuses people will make for their favourite artist. 75 quid for less than an hour is a piss take simple. I thought Liam was the man of the people keeping it real? As for most new musical ventures only playing what they've got, are we comparing LG & JS with 20 year old kids charging a ticket price commensurate with a short set, or other established artists that have gone solo or formed new bands after over 30 years in the business? I don't think many of the latter restrict themselves to less than an hour as a main act. In fact I'd say it's probably pretty unprecedented. If Liam hadn't done this and Damon Alarn had and people here got wind of it they'd be screaming about the Tory posh lad ripping off his fans. Yeh if people want to pay it good for them. But we know fans are not exactly rational, so it's a shame to see their loyalty taken advantage of.
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Post by ee on Mar 23, 2024 21:41:12 GMT -5
When NG did some gigs in my country last year, he did at both the smaller and the bigger venues with the same setlist. The ticket price of the intimate gig(2000 capacity) was over 110 pounds which was double the lowest price of the bigger gig. I don't see any wrong with LGJS tour. I know UK tour and overseas tour can't be the same, of course, but it's an intimate gig of two totemic artists and the support guest is Jake Bugg(some people seem to think JB gig is a sort of freebie lol). Only people who are willing to pay go to see them. Nobody forces you to pay for them.
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Post by psj3809 on Mar 25, 2024 4:16:13 GMT -5
Yeah £75 for 11 songs isnt great value but I personally dont mind. I knew what I was getting as they only have one album worth. If someone whos an Oasis fan came along expecting loads of Oasis fans then yeah they'll be disappointed, do i care ? Nope i dont. As others have said a quick google and you'll find out all you need to know. If some kid is spending £75 which is a lot then surely you would google specially when its Liam Gallagher John Squire not just Liam.
Anyway really enjoying the gig, badly needed a mosh pit though.
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Post by powerage09 on Mar 25, 2024 6:02:04 GMT -5
What have stage times been like and have the times been consistent? According to Setlist FM: Setlist FM - Liam Gallagher John SquireLooks like they start at 9.15 and play until 10.10. Anyone able to confirm this is the case please?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 25, 2024 7:56:08 GMT -5
You didn’t get a ticket then? 😂 You can pay it or not, it’s that simple. Frankly it would be weird to be doing Oasis or Stone Roses songs as you’re asking one or the other to do a lot more than one cover. Maybe John Squire having written a decent album wants to let it stand on its own. Don’t most new musical ventures play what they’ve got? It seems increasingly common these days that fans of a band or artist just want them to be a jukebox. The excuses people will make for their favourite artist. 75 quid for less than an hour is a piss take simple. I thought Liam was the man of the people keeping it real? As for most new musical ventures only playing what they've got, are we comparing LG & JS with 20 year old kids charging a ticket price commensurate with a short set, or other established artists that have gone solo or formed new bands after over 30 years in the business? I don't think many of the latter restrict themselves to less than an hour as a main act. In fact I'd say it's probably pretty unprecedented. If Liam hadn't done this and Damon Alarn had and people here got wind of it they'd be screaming about the Tory posh lad ripping off his fans. Yeh if people want to pay it good for them. But we know fans are not exactly rational, so it's a shame to see their loyalty taken advantage of. Liam isn't my favourite artist but whatever. Funny you mention Damon Albarn. The Gorillaz played through there debut on the first tour. The Good, The Bad and the Queen pretty much did the same and Albarn's second solo album seemed to have been toured with one cover and not particularly well known Blur song. Ed O'Brien of Radiohead seems to just play his solo record through on the handful of dates he did. I don't think it's hugely unusual to be honest. Is the price steep? Yeah, it's why I didn't go. But they aren't performing animals, they owe nobody in terms of picking a setlist.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Mar 25, 2024 8:01:43 GMT -5
What have stage times been like and have the times been consistent? According to Setlist FM: Setlist FM - Liam Gallagher John SquireLooks like they start at 9.15 and play until 10.10. Anyone able to confirm this is the case please? That's accurate. I was asking for the Leeds gig on Saturday, and those were the times. His voice was in good form I thought.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Mar 25, 2024 9:33:27 GMT -5
The little clips they post on Liam's socials are nice, wonder if there will be a longer video or a little doc at some point
Btw saw lots of social media posts from very young fans who were very happy about the shows they attended
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 25, 2024 11:18:26 GMT -5
There's no reason why they can't have 3 or 4 cover versions to flesh the gig out a bit. Sons Of The Stage would be great, maybe a proper go at Come Together (that Foo Fighters performance could've been mega) or maybe Helter Skelter/Heroes as Noel sang them with Oasis. Then a complete curveball that you wouldn't expect from either of them.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 25, 2024 11:47:42 GMT -5
I Am The Walrus alone could take the running time to over an hour.
I think they will look back on their decision to only play the album and one cover as stupid.
The first Beady Eye album at least had 14 songs.
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Post by 2nz on Mar 25, 2024 12:35:30 GMT -5
I Am The Walrus alone could take the running time to over an hour. I think they will look back on their decision to only play the album and one cover as stupid. The first Beady Eye album at least had 14 songs. Will they fuck. They'll check their bank balance and be pretty happy.
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Post by tu on Mar 26, 2024 4:56:52 GMT -5
Berlin: Some providers now seem to be running out / low of tickets. This COULD be because the upper tier may not open. You never know beforehand at Coumbiahalle. Capacity of 3,500 could be ambitious.
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Post by powerage09 on Mar 26, 2024 18:33:38 GMT -5
That was BIBLICAL
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Post by Sadie on Mar 26, 2024 21:40:46 GMT -5
He was fucking incredible vocally at the Troxy gig, easily his best vocals out of all the gigs I've been to
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Post by soulsucker on Mar 27, 2024 3:25:19 GMT -5
Berlin: Some providers now seem to be running out / low of tickets. This COULD be because the upper tier may not open. You never know beforehand at Coumbiahalle. Capacity of 3,500 could be ambitious. Been to Columbiahalle many many times and the upper tier was never closed (mostly sold out shows though, but speaking of other Shows where it wasn't sold out). They could move the concert to a different smaller venue, which I would like. So many better venues in Berlin. On the other hand it's one of only three gigs in mainland Europe. So I think they will have full house.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 27, 2024 4:43:59 GMT -5
He was fucking incredible vocally at the Troxy gig, easily his best vocals out of all the gigs I've been to I watched it on Youtube and he was brilliant!
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Post by Firefly on Mar 27, 2024 10:03:10 GMT -5
He was fucking incredible vocally at the Troxy gig, easily his best vocals out of all the gigs I've been to Agree. Sounded best I've heard him. Good gig. Good crowd, much more responsive than I was expecting, lots of singing and cheering etc. Squire was a marvel. The songs themselves still don't do all that much for me, honestly just don't feel anything at all when I hear em. Mars to Liverpool remains the best and it went over better than the closer Raise Your Hands, he should play Mars To Liverpool last and start with Raise Your Hands.
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 27, 2024 11:15:17 GMT -5
If you got Brooklyn tickets for $80 or so, nice one. Can't find any tickets for less than $130... unless Im looking at the wrong spots.
No interest in going, but I got curious since all the other venues along this tour are selling for 75 a piece or so.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Mar 27, 2024 13:14:58 GMT -5
JJF Best combo Audio/Video
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Post by PepsiNebula on Mar 27, 2024 14:24:14 GMT -5
If you got Brooklyn tickets for $80 or so, nice one. Can't find any tickets for less than $130... unless Im looking at the wrong spots. No interest in going, but I got curious since all the other venues along this tour are selling for 75 a piece or so. It's the only stop in America. Not surprised tickets are higher. Cheaper to pay a bit extra for the concert itself than to fly overseas.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 1, 2024 11:51:43 GMT -5
He was fucking incredible vocally at the Troxy gig, easily his best vocals out of all the gigs I've been to I was there too, just been busy and haven’t had a chance to post my thoughts on the gig. I was in the standing pit up front a few rows back, Squire’s side. Apart from the length of the gig (which I was aware of), I was very happy. It was really tough to choose highlight songs because the whole thing was terrific. They played enthusiastically and Liam sounded great. The crowd reactions to “I’m a wheel”, “raise your hands” and even the colours part of “rainbow” were very memorable. “Mars to Liverpool” also got a great singalong reaction. I was surprised by how much even “love you forever” and “I’m bored” came off extraordinarily well live. Like I said, the only problem was the gig was too short! I didn’t mind that they weren’t going to play Oasis or Roses songs but another cover of two (like “are you experienced?”), a new song to make it 13 at least would have been very welcome. And not unreasonable given prices. I feel it’s easier to throw in another couple songs than charge less. But otherwise, terrific night.
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