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Post by glider on Jan 16, 2023 16:37:04 GMT -5
I'm going to be controversial but I like Pretty Boy much better. It's just a vibe/mood tune for me that doesn't sound like the sort of thing Noel has done before. Yeah I do wish he'd taken it further, and it seems more like an idea of a song that worryingly would need a producer to tell him so, but it's a song in the right ballpark. It's a throwaway tune at worst but folk ranking it on the terrible scale with the likes of Good Rebel must be on something. Can't help but think the video scared a lot of insecure guys away! I like the vibe, I like the atmosphere, I like the sound, but for me there's no getting around the fact that the chorus just walks right into a brick wall every time. It's such a flat, uninspired hook to just repeat the "You said you want it, yeah, yeah!" melody a few times and then duck back down with that "So get your head down, pretty boy" bit. The verses are also a bit vibe-over-tune as well, so there's not a lot of credit in the bank for such a bland chorus. I don't know. It's a b-side, to me. And I've always enjoyed the sleek, crisp, punchy groove of ITHOTM. Higher Power > Pretty Boy
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2023 16:44:59 GMT -5
I'm going to be controversial but I like Pretty Boy much better. It's just a vibe/mood tune for me that doesn't sound like the sort of thing Noel has done before. Yeah I do wish he'd taken it further, and it seems more like an idea of a song that worryingly would need a producer to tell him so, but it's a song in the right ballpark. It's a throwaway tune at worst but folk ranking it on the terrible scale with the likes of Good Rebel must be on something. Can't help but think the video scared a lot of insecure guys away! I don't remember that Good Rebel was the single. Nowhere in that post did I mention single.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 16, 2023 16:48:43 GMT -5
I like the vibe, I like the atmosphere, I like the sound, but for me there's no getting around the fact that the chorus just walks right into a brick wall every time. It's such a flat, uninspired hook to just repeat the "You said you want it, yeah, yeah!" melody a few times and then duck back down with that "So get your head down, pretty boy" bit. The verses are also a bit vibe-over-tune as well, so there's not a lot of credit in the bank for such a bland chorus. I don't know. It's a b-side, to me. And I've always enjoyed the sleek, crisp, punchy groove of ITHOTM. Higher Power > Pretty Boy Goes without saying.
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 16, 2023 17:06:06 GMT -5
I like the vibe, I like the atmosphere, I like the sound, but for me there's no getting around the fact that the chorus just walks right into a brick wall every time. It's such a flat, uninspired hook to just repeat the "You said you want it, yeah, yeah!" melody a few times and then duck back down with that "So get your head down, pretty boy" bit. The verses are also a bit vibe-over-tune as well, so there's not a lot of credit in the bank for such a bland chorus. I don't know. It's a b-side, to me. And I've always enjoyed the sleek, crisp, punchy groove of ITHOTM. Higher Power > Pretty Boy Get You Down(Sam Fender)>>> Higher Power or Pretty Boy.😱
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Post by GlastoEls on Jan 16, 2023 17:43:14 GMT -5
I dunno. It’s my favourite NG since the second album.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 16, 2023 17:49:38 GMT -5
I like the vibe, I like the atmosphere, I like the sound, but for me there's no getting around the fact that the chorus just walks right into a brick wall every time. It's such a flat, uninspired hook to just repeat the "You said you want it, yeah, yeah!" melody a few times and then duck back down with that "So get your head down, pretty boy" bit. The verses are also a bit vibe-over-tune as well, so there's not a lot of credit in the bank for such a bland chorus. I don't know. It's a b-side, to me. And I've always enjoyed the sleek, crisp, punchy groove of ITHOTM. Higher Power > Pretty Boy I honestly find that song (and the vast majority of Coldplay's output in almost 15 years) unlistenable.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 16, 2023 17:56:38 GMT -5
Higher Power > Pretty Boy I honestly find that song (and the vast majority of Coldplay's output in almost 15 years) unlistenable. Coloratura > Everything released by a Gallagher in the last five years.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 16, 2023 18:08:37 GMT -5
I don't remember that Good Rebel was the single. Nowhere in that post did I mention single. We were talking about singles.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 16, 2023 18:20:50 GMT -5
Pretty Boy > Higher Power
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 16, 2023 18:21:19 GMT -5
I honestly find that song (and the vast majority of Coldplay's output in almost 15 years) unlistenable. Coloratura > Everything released by a Gallagher in the last five years. Glad you like it, but definitely not my cup of tea
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2023 18:27:38 GMT -5
Nowhere in that post did I mention single. We were talking about singles. I really don't think it matters mate.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jan 17, 2023 18:24:01 GMT -5
On the Stephen McCauley Show, Noel said Pretty Boy was the most successful thing he's ever done and people, including Stephen, are telling him it's the best thing he's ever done.
I need to unplug from the matrix, cause to me, it's the WORST thing he's ever done.
Amazing how people hear things so differently.
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Post by PepsiNebula on Jan 17, 2023 18:36:48 GMT -5
On the Stephen McCauley Show, Noel said Pretty Boy was the most successful thing he's ever done and people, including Stephen, are telling him it's the best thing he's ever done. I need to unplug from the matrix, cause to me, it's the WORST thing he's ever done. Amazing how people hear things so differently. Okay, I do actually like the song and also am familiar with Noel's brand of BS, but even so: most successful? Whaaaaaat. I realize he doesn't remember the 90s very well but this is going a bit far.
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Post by martha on Jan 17, 2023 20:58:18 GMT -5
On the Stephen McCauley Show, Noel said Pretty Boy was the most successful thing he's ever done and people, including Stephen, are telling him it's the best thing he's ever done. I need to unplug from the matrix, cause to me, it's the WORST thing he's ever done. Amazing how people hear things so differently. Okay, I do actually like the song and also am familiar with Noel's brand of BS, but even so: most successful? Whaaaaaat. I realize he doesn't remember the 90s very well but this is going a bit far. his assertion on Zoe Ball's show was much more accurate "you'll find Pretty Boy has been my most recent single" or something
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Post by garylineker on Jan 24, 2023 10:50:13 GMT -5
I think for hardcore Oasis/HFB fans on initial listen it was very much like what we'd heard from Noel before, in terms of the chorus especially.
Yet, the more i hear it played on radio (which is a hell of a lot), its a very smart move by Noel to release it. Catchy, easy on the ears and a bit different musically to what he's done before.
I could almost guarantee it won't be in my top 5 from the album knowing Noel and how he picks the singles now.
Definetely gone up in my estimation as a song the more i've heard it played.
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Post by glider on Jan 24, 2023 11:25:15 GMT -5
I think for hardcore Oasis/HFB fans on initial listen it was very much like what we'd heard from Noel before, in terms of the chorus especially. Yet, the more i hear it played on radio (which is a hell of a lot), its a very smart move by Noel to release it. Catchy, easy on the ears and a bit different musically to what he's done before. I could almost guarantee it won't be in my top 5 from the album knowing Noel and how he picks the singles now. Definetely gone up in my estimation as a song the more i've heard it played. It just sounds like a bonus track to me. Not a lead single.
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Post by garylineker on Jan 24, 2023 13:54:35 GMT -5
I think for hardcore Oasis/HFB fans on initial listen it was very much like what we'd heard from Noel before, in terms of the chorus especially. Yet, the more i hear it played on radio (which is a hell of a lot), its a very smart move by Noel to release it. Catchy, easy on the ears and a bit different musically to what he's done before. I could almost guarantee it won't be in my top 5 from the album knowing Noel and how he picks the singles now. Definetely gone up in my estimation as a song the more i've heard it played. It just sounds like a bonus track to me. Not a lead single. I've seen it more as the Flick Of The Finger type teaser to the album as opposed to lead single. I'm not sure what singles even are any more to acts like Noel. They don't do anything in the charts, and are just basically for the playlists of Radio X and BBC Radio 2. I reckon just the announcement of Noel's new album gets all of his pre-orders in, and the quality of the initial single doesn't have much bearing any more. There's a bit of a difference with Liam in terms of his first song seems to have a decent chance of the top 20 and then drops out. But even then, i'd doubt (unless it was truly terrible) the quality of the song would have much bearing on how many would buy it.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 26, 2023 3:32:56 GMT -5
It's always the same formula : first single doesn't need to be the strongest song because its the comeback single. The big thing is the comeback, not the song.
The second one need to be the biggest tune (that's where the worry is for the rest of the album, although he says Dead to the World is the best one). And third one is the third one, whatever to keep the artist name in the news.
The only time Noel didn't follow this formula was for his first solo album, where he released his best tune (Death of You and Me) first. But it was to launch his solo career. He needed the big one first.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 26, 2023 13:40:38 GMT -5
I wonder what the third single will be from the new album if it's something that we've already heard or something different.
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 22, 2023 4:42:23 GMT -5
The thing is that music today and radio stations are so shit that Pretty Boy sounds biblical on one of the Serbian radio station right now. So better than everything before. But probably most of us don't listen to random music but best of the past, so Pretty Boy after Beatles sounds shit
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Post by walterglass on Apr 1, 2023 20:27:40 GMT -5
Every time I start hating it, I spend rest of the day singing it in my head 🤣 This is the thing. I think it’s very rudimentary. I don’t think it really goes anywhere. It also buries itself in to the groove of my inner-monologue and refuses to piss off.
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Post by norkbauer on May 3, 2023 17:51:17 GMT -5
Criminally underrated.
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Post by World71R on May 4, 2023 20:48:34 GMT -5
Agreed! My only gripe is I wish the rhythm guitar and drums really kicked harder in the chorus, but I love the way it falls into that dreamy acoustic guitar and electronic drums in the verse. Great song. Forget the haters
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Post by mattcox048 on May 26, 2023 15:18:06 GMT -5
I'd really like someone to convince me that Pretty Boy isn't as transphobic as it now seems, given Noel's recent comments.
A great song potentially ruined.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2023 15:27:56 GMT -5
It's lyrically about the endless struggle about not being accepted to be what you want to be.
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