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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 20, 2021 16:22:33 GMT -5
I read the book. It’s ok. Not great. Definitely needed a big script job. Liam spoke that he wanted Johnny Depp to play Derek Taylor and for Beady Eye to do the soundtrack. Not sure how that would have worked. Beady doing Beatles covers? That would have been strange. Granted I know their music would be very pricey! I don't think they were planning to do that, I think Liam said Beady Eye was supposed to do the film score. Noel has that failed movie project too, let's hope this film (whatever it'll be) will turn out better! What is the point of a Beatles themed movie with music that isn’t the Beatles? I was never sure if they were gonna do covers or originals. I’m not sure they were talented enough to do the soundtrack. Maybe Andy based on his recent output. What failed Noel movie project?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 16:37:07 GMT -5
I don't think they were planning to do that, I think Liam said Beady Eye was supposed to do the film score. Noel has that failed movie project too, let's hope this film (whatever it'll be) will turn out better! What is the point of a Beatles themed movie with music that isn’t the Beatles? I was never sure if they were gonna do covers or originals. I’m not sure they were talented enough to do the soundtrack. Maybe Andy based on his recent output. What failed Noel movie project? Noel had a film made to go with Who Built the Moon? but never released it.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 20, 2021 16:53:04 GMT -5
Whatever happened to that Beatles film Liam was involved with? I recall he set up a production company and weren’t BDI going to do the soundtrack, but it went nowhere right? X It got stuck in development, like the vast majority of films. It wasn't any unusual failure, just normal movie business (I work in that business so speaking from experience.) Development is the early stages of filmmaking during which necessary rights are sought, the script is rewritten multiple times (typically) and finalized, financing is worked out and an initial filmmaking team and casting package is put together. It can take years (in some cases decades.) Tons of stuff can go and usually does go wrong during development. For The Longest Cocktail Party I know there were reports at the time that they had problems with the script (pretty normal), with getting music rights (potentially fatal for a film about The Beatles) and then Michael Winterbottom, who had been attached, dropped out as director (the dagger often, as getting a movie made depends on having someone with box-office cred attached.) You never hear about most projects in development unless you read the industry trades ... but gazillions go by the wayside. By the way, even among films that get made, about 40% are never released theatrically. People think it's one thing, but movies are actually an insane business in which big success is truly the exception rather than the rule. A business built very much on dreams.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 20, 2021 18:33:20 GMT -5
Whatever happened to that Beatles film Liam was involved with? I recall he set up a production company and weren’t BDI going to do the soundtrack, but it went nowhere right? X It got stuck in development, like the vast majority of films. It wasn't any unusual failure, just normal movie business (I work in that business so speaking from experience.) Development is the early stages of filmmaking during which necessary rights are sought, the script is rewritten multiple times (typically) and finalized, financing is worked out and an initial filmmaking team and casting package is put together. It can take years (in some cases decades.) Tons of stuff can go and usually does go wrong during development. For The Longest Cocktail Party I know there were reports at the time that they had problems with the script (pretty normal), with getting music rights (potentially fatal for a film about The Beatles) and then Michael Winterbottom, who had been attached, dropped out as director (the dagger often, as getting a movie made depends on having someone with box-office cred attached.) You never hear about most projects in development unless you read the industry trades ... but gazillions go by the wayside. By the way, even among films that get made, about 40% are never released theatrically. People think it's one thing, but movies are actually an insane business in which big success is truly the exception rather than the rule. A business built very much on dreams. Cheaper these days to dump projects to a streaming services. Less overhead. Anyways, I was just surprised Liam announced it at Cannes 2010. That isn’t usually where you announce projects for the first time. You debut films there and so forth.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 20, 2021 23:07:31 GMT -5
Anyways, I was just surprised Liam announced it at Cannes 2010. That isn’t usually where you announce projects for the first time. You debut films there and so forth. I think Liam went to Cannes in 2010 in part to whip up initial interest in the project (Michael Winterbottom wasn’t attached until 2011) and in part because it was just fun to go to Cannes and play movie producer for a weekend! Of course, film people can’t resist a rock star any more than anyone else. Liam also showed up briefly in Cannes in 2018 when “As It Was” screened at the market where it was bought by U.S distributor Screen Media. (Cannes is really a massive global film market, as well as the world's major art film competition.)
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 21, 2021 13:16:57 GMT -5
That's true but whatever the reason or reasons it's a shame that nothing ever came of it. I read the book. It’s ok. Not great. Definitely needed a big script job. Liam spoke that he wanted Johnny Depp to play Derek Taylor and for Beady Eye to do the soundtrack. Not sure how that would have worked. Beady doing Beatles covers? That would have been strange. Granted I know their music would be very pricey! Well whatever Beady Eye were planning for the soundtrack it would have been interesting. But it would have been better if they had written the songs themselves rather than doing cover versions of Beatles songs.
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 21, 2021 13:19:32 GMT -5
As for Noel's film which was made to go with his Who Built The Moon album I hope that it will get released one day but of course it remains to be seen.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 21, 2021 13:40:50 GMT -5
As for Noel's film which was made to go with his Who Built The Moon album I hope that it will get released one day but of course it remains to be seen. Plot? Actors? Director?
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 21, 2021 13:59:19 GMT -5
As for Noel's film which was made to go with his Who Built The Moon album I hope that it will get released one day but of course it remains to be seen. Plot? Actors? Director? Well that's just it I don't know and I really wonder if anything will come of it but of course time will tell.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 21, 2021 14:12:55 GMT -5
Noel on Matt's podcast said "we have different companies for different stuff", he dismissed the biopic thing and all Knebworth doc seems the most likely thing to me
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 21, 2021 14:14:43 GMT -5
Noel on Matt's podcast said "we have different companies for different stuff", he dismissed the biopic thing and all Knebworth doc seems the most likely thing to me It’s def for Knebworth.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 14:59:21 GMT -5
Noel on Matt's podcast said "we have different companies for different stuff", he dismissed the biopic thing and all Knebworth doc seems the most likely thing to me so was he asked about Knebworth?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 21, 2021 15:38:10 GMT -5
Noel on Matt's podcast said "we have different companies for different stuff", he dismissed the biopic thing and all Knebworth doc seems the most likely thing to me so was he asked about Knebworth? Nah they left it at that, he was asked about KK and said what the press said about a biopic was totally made up (he's been dismissive of biopics very often on the pod btw) and that they set up companies all the time for various business things Knebworth was my comment on it
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 22, 2021 13:52:57 GMT -5
I can understand Noel not wanting to do a biopic but it would be interesting as would a Liam one. And, I would love an Oasis one but I guess it probably won't ever happen but time will tell I guess.
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Post by mossy on Mar 22, 2021 15:47:55 GMT -5
Well that's just it I don't know and I really wonder if anything will come of it but of course time will tell. It was called Stranded On The Earth and was just a string of music videos. Several of them already leaked ages ago. All the links I can find now are dead but I believe fabulousbakers recorded them. He may share if you ask nicely and put out on the first date. They were directed by Mike Bruce though, so don’t get your hopes up too much. They were binned for a reason. Edit: I believe igotflair has the whole film too. Mike Bruce was unhappy it didn’t get released so leaked a silent version onto Vimeo a year ago, with Noel’s music removed, so you have to sync up the music yourself. What madness. X
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Post by oasispodcast on Mar 23, 2021 10:30:15 GMT -5
Well that's just it I don't know and I really wonder if anything will come of it but of course time will tell. It was called Stranded On The Earth and was just a string of music videos. Several of them already leaked ages ago. All the links I can find now are dead but I believe fabulousbakers recorded them. He may share if you ask nicely and put out on the first date. They were directed by Mike Bruce though, so don’t get your hopes up too much. They were binned for a reason. Edit: I believe igotflair has the whole film too. Mike Bruce was unhappy it didn’t get released so leaked a silent version onto Vimeo a year ago, with Noel’s music removed, so you have to sync up the music yourself. What madness. X open.spotify.com/episode/6kJN1Y3xOke0eFKaQxKRSp?si=RcWVKDvGReeiU4XOHbIVyAI interviewed Mike Bruce about it a couple of times, all broken down on this episode
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 23, 2021 12:25:17 GMT -5
Well that's just it I don't know and I really wonder if anything will come of it but of course time will tell. It was called Stranded On The Earth and was just a string of music videos. Several of them already leaked ages ago. All the links I can find now are dead but I believe fabulousbakers recorded them. He may share if you ask nicely and put out on the first date. They were directed by Mike Bruce though, so don’t get your hopes up too much. They were binned for a reason. Edit: I believe igotflair has the whole film too. Mike Bruce was unhappy it didn’t get released so leaked a silent version onto Vimeo a year ago, with Noel’s music removed, so you have to sync up the music yourself. What madness. X Well that certainly isn’t a movie “movie” like the Longest Cocktail Party. I figured this was distorted Noel news.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Mar 23, 2021 13:34:35 GMT -5
The only problem with an Oasis biopic, is that there isn't really a proper ending...
Nobody dies, nobody gets back together. It's just in that weird limbo where they aren't speaking but Liam keeps asking him to come back. How would a biopic actually end on screen?
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 23, 2021 13:59:36 GMT -5
Well that's just it I don't know and I really wonder if anything will come of it but of course time will tell. It was called Stranded On The Earth and was just a string of music videos. Several of them already leaked ages ago. All the links I can find now are dead but I believe fabulousbakers recorded them. He may share if you ask nicely and put out on the first date. They were directed by Mike Bruce though, so don’t get your hopes up too much. They were binned for a reason. Edit: I believe igotflair has the whole film too. Mike Bruce was unhappy it didn’t get released so leaked a silent version onto Vimeo a year ago, with Noel’s music removed, so you have to sync up the music yourself. What madness. X Oh right thanks for clearing that one up. So it looks like that's it then for the film but at least I know now.
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2021 16:30:13 GMT -5
It was called Stranded On The Earth and was just a string of music videos. Several of them already leaked ages ago. All the links I can find now are dead but I believe fabulousbakers recorded them. He may share if you ask nicely and put out on the first date. They were directed by Mike Bruce though, so don’t get your hopes up too much. They were binned for a reason. Edit: I believe igotflair has the whole film too. Mike Bruce was unhappy it didn’t get released so leaked a silent version onto Vimeo a year ago, with Noel’s music removed, so you have to sync up the music yourself. What madness. X open.spotify.com/episode/6kJN1Y3xOke0eFKaQxKRSp?si=RcWVKDvGReeiU4XOHbIVyAI interviewed Mike Bruce about it a couple of times, all broken down on this episode Thanks for sharing. I just listened to the first part. Definitely get Amorphous Androgynous vibes from his story. That Noel can be one cold muthafucker. I’ve always wondered how bothered Noel was about this project from the off though. I was surprised Noel agreed to work with Mike again after the shockingly appalling roller derby video. My understanding is Mike approached Noel about this project, not the other way round. And by the time Mike had finished it, the album cycle was well and truly over. Sounds like Noel had simply moved onto his next project. But it was stupid to advertise it in the Love Is The Law video if they had doubts. I’d still be interested in seeing it though. (Cough cough igotflair). As you say in the podcast, hopefully it gets released for an anniversary at some point... just like all that AA material. X
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 23, 2021 17:01:48 GMT -5
The only problem with an Oasis biopic, is that there isn't really a proper ending... Nobody dies, nobody gets back together. It's just in that weird limbo where they aren't speaking but Liam keeps asking him to come back. How would a biopic actually end on screen? Depends on what story you're telling (you can tell the story of their rise and rise and skip the fall, as Supersonic smartly did, or you could even start with their fall and tell a completely different story of brothers divided, or take a wilder, non-linear approach and make it a broader story of the rapidly changing times and the changing meaning of rock and roll success/excess... so many ways to go with such a Shakespearean tale)... but in general, for multiple reasons, biopics tend to work best, and have the best chance to escape the horrible clichés of biopics, when the subject(s) are either very, very old or no longer in this world ... biopics attempted in middle-age are usually jumping the gun.
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2021 17:11:31 GMT -5
The only problem with an Oasis biopic, is that there isn't really a proper ending... Nobody dies, nobody gets back together. It's just in that weird limbo where they aren't speaking but Liam keeps asking him to come back. How would a biopic actually end on screen? Depends on what story you're telling (you can tell the story of their rise and rise and skip the fall, as Supersonic smartly did, or you could even start with their fall and tell a completely different story of brothers divided, or take a wilder, non-linear approach and make it a broader story of the rapidly changing times and the changing meaning of rock and roll success/excess... so many ways to go with such a Shakespearean tale)... but in general, for multiple reasons, biopics tend to work best, and have the best chance to escape the horrible clichés of biopics, when the subject(s) are either very, very old or no longer in this world ... biopics attempted in middle-age are usually jumping the gun. I really hope we never get an Oasis biopic. Seeing actors play people I know well always makes me cringe. I can’t imagine any actor, no matter how good, playing Liam or Noel and not making me cringe. I haven’t seen the Creation Records film yet and I’m already cringing in advance. The horror. X
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 17:19:03 GMT -5
I don't want to see actors playing Liam or Noel either, but I'd like to see Liam and Noel try acting
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 23, 2021 17:23:59 GMT -5
Seeing actors play people I know well always makes me cringe. I can’t imagine any actor, no matter how good, playing Liam or Noel and not making me cringe. I haven’t seen the Creation Records film yet and I’m already cringing in advance. The horror. X Essentially impossibly without feeling like parody ... while they're still relatively young and still part of the culture. But you couldn't have played Lennon while he was alive either ... not to mention Elvis ... and now they are played all the time, shamelessly.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 23, 2021 17:28:05 GMT -5
I don't want to see actors playing Liam or Noel either, but I'd like to see Liam and Noel try acting They need to be themselves ... they can't be no one else.
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