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Post by bencdzporto on Dec 18, 2020 6:32:46 GMT -5
Noel in 2009: "I'll never leave Oasis"
Also Noel in 2009: "I'll leave Oasis"
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Post by powerage09 on Dec 19, 2020 18:04:13 GMT -5
Noel's poker face is immense.
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Post by The Chief on Dec 21, 2020 7:30:16 GMT -5
We all know, apart from the hardcore Liam fanboys and fangirls, that leaving Oasis was a swift decision that came after months of tension building up to a fight that was the last straw. When he said he would not leave Oasis, I'm sure he meant it then because every tour had its tensions and eventually the tour would end, everyone would calm down and they'd start again. He even said after the breakup that if he hadn't left that night that this is what would have happened. So I don't see a poker face or him being hypocritical or anything here.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Dec 21, 2020 11:57:30 GMT -5
Remember that not long after (or maybe before) he also said that the band were only staying together for the fans. Noel and Liam hated each other. Facts.
There is an interview SOMEWHERE where Noel said post-break up that Liam, at a family do (Noel and Sarah, Liam and Nicole and Paul) pre-tour said that he wanted out. The band was toxic at this point in their timeline.
Noel wanted out and fair do's.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 21, 2020 12:00:30 GMT -5
I can see a liar, sitting by the fire.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 21, 2020 12:13:00 GMT -5
I think he meant "I will never leave Oasis... until the tour is almost done and the money is in".
Also in 1994, Liam Gallagher : "i will only sing Noel's and Lennon's tunes".
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Post by The Chief on Dec 22, 2020 7:03:58 GMT -5
Remember that not long after (or maybe before) he also said that the band were only staying together for the fans. Noel and Liam hated each other. Facts. There is an interview SOMEWHERE where Noel said post-break up that Liam, at a family do (Noel and Sarah, Liam and Nicole and Paul) pre-tour said that he wanted out. The band was toxic at this point in their timeline. Noel wanted out and fair do's. Would love to see that interview! But you're right, the band was toxic especially in the end and I think both brothers are better off without it personally. Liam's doing great and Noel is exploring anything and everything he so chooses and he relies only on himself for his gigs. And I'm sure both Gem and Andy are better off as well without them being in between the Gallaghers both in the band and in interviews. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Dec 22, 2020 10:20:30 GMT -5
Remember that not long after (or maybe before) he also said that the band were only staying together for the fans. Noel and Liam hated each other. Facts. There is an interview SOMEWHERE where Noel said post-break up that Liam, at a family do (Noel and Sarah, Liam and Nicole and Paul) pre-tour said that he wanted out. The band was toxic at this point in their timeline. Noel wanted out and fair do's. Would love to see that interview! But you're right, the band was toxic especially in the end and I think both brothers are better off without it personally. Liam's doing great and Noel is exploring anything and everything he so chooses and he relies only on himself for his gigs. And I'm sure both Gem and Andy are better off as well without them being in between the Gallaghers both in the band and in interviews. I can't find the interview anywhere. I saw it on this forum ages ago - I think it was between the press conference and the first album. Can't remember where I saw it though |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 12:03:53 GMT -5
We all know, apart from the hardcore Liam fanboys and fangirls, that leaving Oasis was a swift decision that came after months of tension building up to a fight that was the last straw. When he said he would not leave Oasis, I'm sure he meant it then because every tour had its tensions and eventually the tour would end, everyone would calm down and they'd start again. He even said after the breakup that if he hadn't left that night that this is what would have happened. So I don't see a poker face or him being hypocritical or anything here. What do the Liam fanboys think? |
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Post by The Chief on Dec 22, 2020 12:17:43 GMT -5
We all know, apart from the hardcore Liam fanboys and fangirls, that leaving Oasis was a swift decision that came after months of tension building up to a fight that was the last straw. When he said he would not leave Oasis, I'm sure he meant it then because every tour had its tensions and eventually the tour would end, everyone would calm down and they'd start again. He even said after the breakup that if he hadn't left that night that this is what would have happened. So I don't see a poker face or him being hypocritical or anything here. What do the Liam fanboys think? That he had been plotting this for months or years, stashing songs away and waiting for any excuse to leave the band and become a solo artist, that the fight they had didn't justify him leaving and was just used by Noel to make Liam the culprit and that somehow Sara's behind it all because she got in Noel's head, made him leave the band and not want to rejoin... Sounds batshit crazy yet that's the narrative Liam's been pushing for years and his fanboys and fangirls are repeating without questionning it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 15:14:19 GMT -5
How does any of that make any sense at all?
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 22, 2020 16:44:36 GMT -5
The truth is it was both of Noel and Liam's fault when the band split up. Noel just wanted to blame Liam at the time to make it look like he wasn't to blame at the time. But I doubt very much that Oasis would've gone on much longer even if there wasn't a fight between Noel and Liam. And, I doubt very much that Noel or Liam were even enjoying the band in their final days of the band's final tour. We know that there was stories about Noel and Liam travelling separately during those final toxic days during that tour. Anyway, even if the band did continue after that tour they probably would have gone away for a while, then come back with a new album and tour and the same thing would happen again. So it was bound to end sooner or later.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 23, 2020 0:49:13 GMT -5
We all know, apart from the hardcore Liam fanboys and fangirls, that leaving Oasis was a swift decision that came after months of tension building up to a fight that was the last straw. When he said he would not leave Oasis, I'm sure he meant it then because every tour had its tensions and eventually the tour would end, everyone would calm down and they'd start again. He even said after the breakup that if he hadn't left that night that this is what would have happened. So I don't see a poker face or him being hypocritical or anything here. And the AA confirming Noel come to them backstage in 2008 and asked them about working on his solo record? |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 23, 2020 1:35:31 GMT -5
What do the Liam fanboys think? That he had been plotting this for months or years, stashing songs away and waiting for any excuse to leave the band and become a solo artist, that the fight they had didn't justify him leaving and was just used by Noel to make Liam the culprit and that somehow Sara's behind it all because she got in Noel's head, made him leave the band and not want to rejoin... Sounds batshit crazy yet that's the narrative Liam's been pushing for years and his fanboys and fangirls are repeating without questionning it. But they know, they are right. Can't question Liam Gallagher. He is the truth. Ask his wives.  And the AA confirming Noel come to them backstage in 2008 and asked them about working on his solo record? Yeah, since they are good friends, i guess we take their word as truth  Backstage talk is the equivalent of talking serious matter in a bar at 4am. It's very serious. |
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Post by walterglass on Dec 23, 2020 2:13:34 GMT -5
Gene orchestrated everything. He wanted that second drummer slot since - well, since he can remember. And he knew Uncle Noel would never go for it. He even introduced Liam to Debbie, at the expense of his own mother’s wellbeing. That’s how cutthroat the kid is, he’s as hard as a coffin nail. Think...the Keyser Soze of the group. By the time Noel realises what’s been done to him, Gene will have long exited the scene of the crime and moved on to his next target, probably bagging himself a spot as the touring drummer with The Who - or something. Whatever, it’s not important. What is important in this game is staying in work - now more than ever. His way of doing things, It might be difficult for others to swallow - but the kid knows in every situation there has to be a winner and a loser. A natural order...and all he does is play the hand that was dealt him the best way he god damn knows.
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Post by The Chief on Dec 23, 2020 8:00:22 GMT -5
Noel just wanted to blame Liam at the time to make it look like he wasn't to blame at the time. You see I don't buy that wanting to blame Liam thing. Why? Why blame it on Liam? What would have been the point? He could have easily done a solo record and/or career without leaving Oasis. So when he says he decided there and then that it was enough, I tend to believe him. We all know, apart from the hardcore Liam fanboys and fangirls, that leaving Oasis was a swift decision that came after months of tension building up to a fight that was the last straw. When he said he would not leave Oasis, I'm sure he meant it then because every tour had its tensions and eventually the tour would end, everyone would calm down and they'd start again. He even said after the breakup that if he hadn't left that night that this is what would have happened. So I don't see a poker face or him being hypocritical or anything here. And the AA confirming Noel come to them backstage in 2008 and asked them about working on his solo record? Let's say for argument' sake that this is true, which I have no reason to doubt, would ONE solo record with AA especially after how much Noel loved what they did with Falling Down, mean that Noel wanted to leave Oasis? How many artists have solo careers and are still part of a band? What if that solo record was supposed to be this "far out" thing he did in between Dig Out Your Soul and another Oasis record? Gene orchestrated everything. He wanted that second drummer slot since - well, since he can remember. And he knew Uncle Noel would never go for it. He even introduced Liam to Debbie, at the expense of his own mother’s wellbeing. That’s how cutthroat the kid is, he’s as hard as a coffin nail. Think...the Keyser Soze of the group. By the time Noel realises what’s been done to him, Gene will have long exited the scene of the crime and moved on to his next target, probably bagging himself a spot as the touring drummer with The Who - or something. Whatever, it’s not important. What is important in this game is staying in work - now more than ever. His way of doing things, It might be difficult for others to swallow - but the kid knows in every situation there has to be a winner and a loser. A natural order...and all he does is play the hand that was dealt him the best way he god damn knows. That was brilliant |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 23, 2020 8:05:09 GMT -5
Y'all crazy, Noel has been plotting his Oasis departure since 1993
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Post by My Big Name on Dec 23, 2020 8:20:24 GMT -5
Y'all crazy, Noel has been plotting his Oasis departure since 1993 Was he ever really part of oasis in the first place??  |
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Post by The Chief on Dec 23, 2020 10:29:50 GMT -5
Y'all crazy, Noel has been plotting his Oasis departure since 1993 I know this was a joke but there had been rumours about Noel's first solo record pretty much since after the release of Morning Glory. It was written in the stars that it would happen some day! |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 23, 2020 12:43:56 GMT -5
Y'all crazy, Noel has been plotting his Oasis departure since 1993 I know this was a joke but there had been rumours about Noel's first solo record pretty much since after the release of Morning Glory. It was written in the stars that it would happen some day! Well DM, MG and BHN are noel's solo albums. He just don't sing on it, he's got a singer featuring on it that had nothing to do with the rest of the recordings. and some other musicians that parts were probably replaced by Noel. And a drummer. and Tony. The genius of Noel Gallagher is fooling us into believing Oasis was a band. |
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Post by garylineker on Dec 23, 2020 16:22:00 GMT -5
That he had been plotting this for months or years, stashing songs away and waiting for any excuse to leave the band and become a solo artist, that the fight they had didn't justify him leaving and was just used by Noel to make Liam the culprit and that somehow Sara's behind it all because she got in Noel's head, made him leave the band and not want to rejoin... Sounds batshit crazy yet that's the narrative Liam's been pushing for years and his fanboys and fangirls are repeating without questionning it. But they know, they are right. Can't question Liam Gallagher. He is the truth. Ask his wives. And the AA confirming Noel come to them backstage in 2008 and asked them about working on his solo record? Yeah, since they are good friends, i guess we take their word as truth Backstage talk is the equivalent of talking serious matter in a bar at 4am. It's very serious. I dont know why you'd be so adamant its Liam fanboys who go along with his narrative blindly but then go along with Noel's for the same reason. No way would he have gone without doing a solo record and making it all about him. |
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Post by garylineker on Dec 23, 2020 16:24:18 GMT -5
I know this was a joke but there had been rumours about Noel's first solo record pretty much since after the release of Morning Glory. It was written in the stars that it would happen some day! Well DM, MG and BHN are noel's solo albums. He just don't sing on it, he's got a singer featuring on it that had nothing to do with the rest of the recordings. and some other musicians that parts were probably replaced by Noel. And a drummer. and Tony. The genius of Noel Gallagher is fooling us into believing Oasis was a band. By this logic a lot of bands arent bands. That singer kind of turned out to be the biggest reason those songs sold like they did so it's disingenous to suggest it was like you said. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 23, 2020 16:40:18 GMT -5
Noel just wanted to blame Liam at the time to make it look like he wasn't to blame at the time. You see I don't buy that wanting to blame Liam thing. Why? Why blame it on Liam? What would have been the point? He could have easily done a solo record and/or career without leaving Oasis. So when he says he decided there and then that it was enough, I tend to believe him. And the AA confirming Noel come to them backstage in 2008 and asked them about working on his solo record? Let's say for argument' sake that this is true, which I have no reason to doubt, would ONE solo record with AA especially after how much Noel loved what they did with Falling Down, mean that Noel wanted to leave Oasis? How many artists have solo careers and are still part of a band? What if that solo record was supposed to be this "far out" thing he did in between Dig Out Your Soul and another Oasis record? Gene orchestrated everything. He wanted that second drummer slot since - well, since he can remember. And he knew Uncle Noel would never go for it. He even introduced Liam to Debbie, at the expense of his own mother’s wellbeing. That’s how cutthroat the kid is, he’s as hard as a coffin nail. Think...the Keyser Soze of the group. By the time Noel realises what’s been done to him, Gene will have long exited the scene of the crime and moved on to his next target, probably bagging himself a spot as the touring drummer with The Who - or something. Whatever, it’s not important. What is important in this game is staying in work - now more than ever. His way of doing things, It might be difficult for others to swallow - but the kid knows in every situation there has to be a winner and a loser. A natural order...and all he does is play the hand that was dealt him the best way he god damn knows. That was brilliant But remember those statements and the press conference which Noel did ? He blamed Liam and also other members of Oasis for not stepping in to help. I'm sorry but I don't believe Noel and that the split wasn't any of his fault because of course it was. And, yes, he could've made a solo album when he was in Oasis and I remember him saying in an interview during the band's final tour that he would like all of the members of the band to do a solo album each. |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 24, 2020 1:47:23 GMT -5
But they know, they are right. Can't question Liam Gallagher. He is the truth. Ask his wives. Yeah, since they are good friends, i guess we take their word as truth Backstage talk is the equivalent of talking serious matter in a bar at 4am. It's very serious. I dont know why you'd be so adamant its Liam fanboys who go along with his narrative blindly but then go along with Noel's for the same reason. No way would he have gone without doing a solo record and making it all about him. Backstage talks are backstage talks, they dont mean anything. Quote me somewhere where i said believe Noel's story. I dare you. I always said the split was 50/50 their fault and truth lies inbetween the two storylines. Hell, maybe there was never a fight and it's all a marketing ploy. What i'm saying is that Liam used the poor abandonned brother tactic to sell records and his stupid fake documentary. And that people blindly fell for it. Well DM, MG and BHN are noel's solo albums. He just don't sing on it, he's got a singer featuring on it that had nothing to do with the rest of the recordings. and some other musicians that parts were probably replaced by Noel. And a drummer. and Tony. The genius of Noel Gallagher is fooling us into believing Oasis was a band. By this logic a lot of bands arent bands. That singer kind of turned out to be the biggest reason those songs sold like they did so it's disingenous to suggest it was like you said. This was obviously a joke. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 24, 2020 9:22:57 GMT -5
I dont know why you'd be so adamant its Liam fanboys who go along with his narrative blindly but then go along with Noel's for the same reason. No way would he have gone without doing a solo record and making it all about him. Backstage talks are backstage talks, they dont mean anything. Quote me somewhere where i said believe Noel's story. I dare you. I always said the split was 50/50 their fault and truth lies inbetween the two storylines. Hell, maybe there was never a fight and it's all a marketing ploy. What i'm saying is that Liam used the poor abandonned brother tactic to sell records and his stupid fake documentary. And that people blindly fell for it. By this logic a lot of bands arent bands. That singer kind of turned out to be the biggest reason those songs sold like they did so it's disingenous to suggest it was like you said. This was obviously a joke. But was it really a joke?  |
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