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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 28, 2020 7:37:46 GMT -5
Noel also said shortly before the split that he wanted a 5 year break, which caused even more tension with Liam as Noel obviously wanted to do a solo record in that time whereas Liam's life would essentially be put on hold.
I've always thought the attack on Noel at the start of the tour had a lot to do with things though. In his victim statement he said he'd been in chronic pain throughout the tour which would obviously affect his mood. Liam has always maintained 'we had an argument but we've had worse arguments before' - clearly if Noel was in constant pain he'd have less tolerance for his annoying little brother's antics.
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Post by The Chief on Dec 28, 2020 10:53:15 GMT -5
Noel also said shortly before the split that he wanted a 5 year break, which caused even more tension with Liam as Noel obviously wanted to do a solo record in that time whereas Liam's life would essentially be put on hold. I've always thought the attack on Noel at the start of the tour had a lot to do with things though. In his victim statement he said he'd been in chronic pain throughout the tour which would obviously affect his mood. Liam has always maintained 'we had an argument but we've had worse arguments before' - clearly if Noel was in constant pain he'd have less tolerance for his annoying little brother's antics. That's an interesting point of view! I never thought of that. Goes to show the point I was making earlier that we don't know the whole story from the outside. |
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Post by walterglass on Dec 29, 2020 16:13:15 GMT -5
We need Noel’s memoirs.
If he does it wholeheartedly it’ll be one of pop culture’s greatest autobiographies.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 29, 2020 16:40:16 GMT -5
I would love to read an autobiography of both Noel and Liam ,done separately of course. I think that they would both be a very interesting read.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 29, 2020 18:15:01 GMT -5
We need Noel’s memoirs. If he does it wholeheartedly it’ll be one of pop culture’s greatest autobiographies. It would only be so if he brought some real (and rare) self-reflection to it. Rock star autobiographies are a dime a dozen, and precious few do much from a literary or cultural perspective. Beyond a very small group of fans (getting older by the day), people don’t really care to read 500 pages about how you partied with Bono in Biarritz or if you wrote the lyrics to that one song on a train or a plane. There are definitely some very interesting places Noel could go, but would he? Both Gallaghers for all their public shenanigans are quite private people when you get down to it. I know Noel’s dismissed the idea when talking with Matt Morgan but I also get the feeling that Matt is itching to help him write it (for better or for worse, not read his writing.) |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 29, 2020 18:41:08 GMT -5
We need Noel’s memoirs. If he does it wholeheartedly it’ll be one of pop culture’s greatest autobiographies. It would only be so if he brought some real (and rare) self-reflection to it. Rock star autobiographies are a dime a dozen, and precious few do much from a literary or cultural perspective. Beyond a very small group of fans (getting older by the day), people don’t really care to read 500 pages about how you partied with Bono in Biarritz or if you wrote the lyrics to that one song on a train or a plane. There are definitely some very interesting places Noel could go, but would he? Both Gallaghers for all their public shenanigans are quite private people when you get down to it. I know Noel’s dismissed the idea when talking with Matt Morgan but I also get the feeling that Matt is itching to help him write it (for better or for worse, not read his writing.) I'm quite convinced Noel would never do it Liam kinda opened up with As It Was, so who knows |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 29, 2020 19:18:41 GMT -5
I'm quite convinced Noel would never do it Liam kinda opened up with As It Was, so who knows I think "kinda" is a good word. Don't think anyone really knows all that went on in those several years when Liam went away (should say I also don't think he has any obligation whatsoever to share it, unless he wants to), but we do know he had a rough time of it for a bit and then took what what was seemingly his last shot at the solo thing, which did make for a very human story. It's still rare for either brother to share anything really, deeply personal about the past or the present -- it's who they are, of course, and much of what we learn best about them on an emotional level even now comes from the occasional song ... and that's probably how it will remain. Others will write books ... |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 30, 2020 6:24:26 GMT -5
I'm quite convinced Noel would never do it Liam kinda opened up with As It Was, so who knows I think "kinda" is a good word. Don't think anyone really knows all that went on in those several years when Liam went away (should say I also don't think he has any obligation whatsoever to share it, unless he wants to), but we do know he had a rough time of it for a bit and then took what what was seemingly his last shot at the solo thing, which did make for a very human story. It's still rare for either brother to share anything really, deeply personal about the past or the present -- it's who they are, of course, and much of what we learn best about them on an emotional level even now comes from the occasional song ... and that's probably how it will remain. Others will write books ... Yeah, I wonder what was left out of As It Was as I thought the first half was interesting and kinda scratched the surface, then the second half was more of a PR puff piece celebrating the comeback. But we know they had to change things at the last minute after they were denied the rights to the Oasis music, it seemed to transition very quickly from Liam being depressed as his life has fallen apart to Liam has a number 1 album and is on top of the world. I wonder if there was more left out so they could move on to the music they had the rights for quicker? |
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Post by walterglass on Dec 30, 2020 10:54:03 GMT -5
We need Noel’s memoirs. If he does it wholeheartedly it’ll be one of pop culture’s greatest autobiographies. It would only be so if he brought some real (and rare) self-reflection to it. Rock star autobiographies are a dime a dozen, and precious few do much from a literary or cultural perspective. Beyond a very small group of fans (getting older by the day), people don’t really care to read 500 pages about how you partied with Bono in Biarritz or if you wrote the lyrics to that one song on a train or a plane. There are definitely some very interesting places Noel could go, but would he? Both Gallaghers for all their public shenanigans are quite private people when you get down to it. I know Noel’s dismissed the idea when talking with Matt Morgan but I also get the feeling that Matt is itching to help him write it (for better or for worse, not read his writing.) I’d like to think Noel would realise the importance of it as a cultural document. And I have hope, I think he realised the importance of Supersonic, on which you get occasional glimpse of a vulnerable - even insecure - Noel. We can live in hope. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 30, 2020 15:16:12 GMT -5
I’d like to think Noel would realise the importance of it as a cultural document. And I have hope, I think he realised the importance of Supersonic, on which you get occasional glimpse of a vulnerable - even insecure - Noel. We can live in hope. Realizing the importance of it and being willing/able to go there on the page are two different things. But I don't want to be in the hope-crushing business! He may well have a book in him down the road and I definitely hope it's a really good one that captures him, where he came from, the times he was part of creating and what it all meant as it deserves to be captured. Probably would go even better to work with a writer he trusted who might push him (but then who does Noel truly trust on that level?). For sure, there will come a time that people in his sphere will start pressuring him to write one ... more so than now... because it's a thing you can do as you get older and less able to do long tours to revive interest in your career ... and by that point he might be ready to take some risks. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 30, 2020 16:49:06 GMT -5
I think if both Noel and Liam ever did do one then we will have to wait for a very long time as they certainly won't be doing one any time soon.
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