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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 5, 2020 11:33:10 GMT -5
All I know is Liam’s hat is real.
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Post by bestwick8 on Dec 5, 2020 11:41:04 GMT -5
How are all the live versions of this song better than the original studio recording
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Post by underneaththesky on Dec 5, 2020 12:06:28 GMT -5
How are all the live versions of this song better than the original studio recording his vocals are from his home with his shitty mic
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Post by bt95 on Dec 5, 2020 17:29:37 GMT -5
I don't think that was 'live' Maybe the musicianship and back-up singers, but Liam hit exactly the same notes in exactly the same way as he did in other 'live' performances. Either that, or they dubbed the performance from the boat onto the Jonathan Ross version. Not really a massive concern to me like, it must be a very hard song to sing. I'm gutted I'm missing the gig. Wish there was an option to purchase and watch at a different time. Hopefully it'll come out as a download some time soon. God no, not this again. You're taking the piss, ain't you? Because the two performances couldn't sound more different, ffs he sung a completely different melody in the first seconds lol ("while the morning waits", completely different melodies). "Liam hit exactly the same notes in exactly the same way as he did in other 'live' performances" it's the same singer and the same song duh I mean, they were spot on the same. The melody wasn't different. So they're using one version. Now a version sang outside, on a boat, floating down a river, is bound to sound slightly different to one inside. It probably wasn't mimed, I just think it sounds exactly the same to the other ones which were in a totally different setting. It's not a question of liam's quality or whatever, because it sounds great, but there's no way it was a different recording.
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Post by vespa on Dec 5, 2020 18:24:28 GMT -5
Your insane , why so bothered , he’s sung it well live now get a grip fuck sake , you ever recorded music or done live settings?
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Post by lg on Dec 6, 2020 4:25:47 GMT -5
God no, not this again. You're taking the piss, ain't you? Because the two performances couldn't sound more different, ffs he sung a completely different melody in the first seconds lol ("while the morning waits", completely different melodies). "Liam hit exactly the same notes in exactly the same way as he did in other 'live' performances" it's the same singer and the same song duh I mean, they were spot on the same. The melody wasn't different. So they're using one version. Now a version sang outside, on a boat, floating down a river, is bound to sound slightly different to one inside. It probably wasn't mimed, I just think it sounds exactly the same to the other ones which were in a totally different setting. It's not a question of liam's quality or whatever, because it sounds great, but there's no way it was a different recording. www.amplifon.com/uk/hearing-aids
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 5:31:49 GMT -5
Spam tbh
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Post by tommybravo on Dec 6, 2020 6:37:34 GMT -5
Not digging all this tweaking shit, few takes shit, scarf no scarf shit Shhhh! You’re not allowed to talk about this here...
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 6, 2020 6:58:14 GMT -5
Not digging all this tweaking shit, few takes shit, scarf no scarf shit Shhhh! You’re not allowed to talk about this here... You can talk about anything you like but if you’re putting forward conspiracy theories then expect to get pulled up on it. Given the post facts world we now live in I probably shouldn’t be surprised but it’s still quite surprising that’s it’s reached as far as Liam Gallagher’s live performances.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 7:03:21 GMT -5
Shhhh! You’re not allowed to talk about this here... You can talk about anything you like but if you’re putting forward conspiracy theories then expect to get pulled up on it. Given the post facts world we now live in I probably shouldn’t be surprised but it’s still quite surprising that’s it’s reached as far as Liam Gallagher’s live performances. I believe the USA has landed on the moon for the record. I believe in vaccine, and I fuckin hate Donald Trump. I want to be clear about that. But yeah, some people raise that question about Liam live being at least heavily edited (not denying he has GREATLY improved live) so it’s legit to at least talk about it. And it should be normal to let people discuss it on here if they want to. Cheers
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 6, 2020 7:06:29 GMT -5
You can talk about anything you like but if you’re putting forward conspiracy theories then expect to get pulled up on it. Given the post facts world we now live in I probably shouldn’t be surprised but it’s still quite surprising that’s it’s reached as far as Liam Gallagher’s live performances. I believe the USA has landed on the moon for the record. I believe in vaccine, and I fuckin hate Donald Trump. I want to be clear about that. But yeah, some people raise that question about Liam live being at least heavily edited (not denying he has GREATLY improved live) so it’s legit to at least talk about it. And it should be normal to let people discuss it on here if they want to. Cheers I said people can talk about what they want and they do but when you reach a point that a forum member is furiously editing a live take to sound like the studio version just to back up their point you know you’ve crossed the rubicon.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 7:09:16 GMT -5
I believe the USA has landed on the moon for the record. I believe in vaccine, and I fuckin hate Donald Trump. I want to be clear about that. But yeah, some people raise that question about Liam live being at least heavily edited (not denying he has GREATLY improved live) so it’s legit to at least talk about it. And it should be normal to let people discuss it on here if they want to. Cheers I said people can talk about what they want and they do but when you reach a point that a forum member is furiously editing a live take to sound like the studio version just to back up their point you know you’ve crossed the rubicon. That’s where you are wrong. It’s not edited. It’s just two (they say) different version put together. Get your facts right. What if I told you DLBIA is not the original recording speed... am i a conspiracy theorist now. Since the Ross instrumentals are almost agreed to be the studio version and it matches the studio version when slowed down (same piano, back vox, guitars, orchestra), it’s normal to guess the vocals should be slowed down to the same speed.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 6, 2020 8:07:21 GMT -5
I said people can talk about what they want and they do but when you reach a point that a forum member is furiously editing a live take to sound like the studio version just to back up their point you know you’ve crossed the rubicon. That’s where you are wrong. It’s not edited. It’s just two (they say) different version put together. Get your facts right. What if I told you DLBIA is not the original recording speed... am i a conspiracy theorist now. Since the Ross instrumentals are almost agreed to be the studio version and it matches the studio version when slowed down (same piano, back vox, guitars, orchestra), it’s normal to guess the vocals should be slowed down to the same speed. Andy, you basically used Shazam on the Ross performance and thought “brilliant, I can go and wind those Liam fans up! “, until another forum member picked a rather large hole in your argument, then rather than stepping back you doubled down on it and down the rabbit hole we went😂. You actually finished by playing the victim card even though many of your posts in that section have been designed to wind people up. Don’t get mad that people give you short shrift. You couldn’t say that you haven’t earned it.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 8:12:07 GMT -5
That’s where you are wrong. It’s not edited. It’s just two (they say) different version put together. Get your facts right. What if I told you DLBIA is not the original recording speed... am i a conspiracy theorist now. Since the Ross instrumentals are almost agreed to be the studio version and it matches the studio version when slowed down (same piano, back vox, guitars, orchestra), it’s normal to guess the vocals should be slowed down to the same speed. Andy, you basically used Shazam on the Ross performance and thought “brilliant, I can go and wind those Liam fans up! “, until another forum member picked a rather large hole in your argument, then rather than stepping back you doubled down on it and down the rabbit hole we went😂. You actually finished by playing the victim card even though many of your posts in that section have been designed to wind people up. Don’t get mad that people give you short shrift. You couldn’t say that you haven’t earned it. Fair enough. The Shazam thing was to not share official material as requested by mods and trying to find a way to expose my point. It was a mistake and I said so as it was not proof enough. Yet I didn’t have any answer to my game. Many of you think it can be obvious which version was which yet no one answered left or right. No one. Some have been courageous by PM and i thank them for that. Once again it’s not edited just put together at same speed. I didn’t alter the recordings.
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Post by lg on Dec 6, 2020 8:35:42 GMT -5
Andy, you basically used Shazam on the Ross performance and thought “brilliant, I can go and wind those Liam fans up! “, until another forum member picked a rather large hole in your argument, then rather than stepping back you doubled down on it and down the rabbit hole we went😂. You actually finished by playing the victim card even though many of your posts in that section have been designed to wind people up. Don’t get mad that people give you short shrift. You couldn’t say that you haven’t earned it. Fair enough. The Shazam thing was to not share official material as requested by mods and trying to find a way to expose my point. It was a mistake and I said so as it was not proof enough. Yet I didn’t have any answer to my game. Many of you think it can be obvious which version was which yet no one answered left or right. No one. Some have been courageous by PM and i thank them for that. Once again it’s not edited just put together at same speed. I didn’t alter the recordings. Everyone with functioning ears can tell the difference but not everyone is interested in continuing this discussion, that's it.
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Post by Rolo on Dec 6, 2020 8:40:05 GMT -5
I seriously cannot believe how people can't hear they are all different versions. I'm absolutely baffled.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 8:53:41 GMT -5
Fair enough. The Shazam thing was to not share official material as requested by mods and trying to find a way to expose my point. It was a mistake and I said so as it was not proof enough. Yet I didn’t have any answer to my game. Many of you think it can be obvious which version was which yet no one answered left or right. No one. Some have been courageous by PM and i thank them for that. Once again it’s not edited just put together at same speed. I didn’t alter the recordings. Everyone with functioning ears can tell the difference but not everyone is interested in continuing this discussion, that's it. well I discuss with the ones interested, agreeing or disagreeing. You’re free to ignore this. To sum up your post, me saying things and putting things on the table is never proof but people who don’t agree with me saying things with no proof is proof (like this post of yours). And I’m the crazy one. I don’t pretend to know the truth, but I have my doubts. The more recordings we will have the more we can really understand what’s going on. And I would do the same if Noel pretend to do a live that sounded suspicious to me. I’m not the only one raising my unibrow on this matter.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 8:54:17 GMT -5
I seriously cannot believe how people can't hear they are all different versions. I'm absolutely baffled. Left or right then, rolo come on be courageous.
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Post by lg on Dec 6, 2020 9:03:48 GMT -5
Everyone with functioning ears can tell the difference but not everyone is interested in continuing this discussion, that's it. well I discuss with the ones interested, agreeing or disagreeing. You’re free to ignore this. To sum up your post, me saying things and putting things on the table is never proof but people who don’t agree with me saying things with no proof is proof (like this post of yours). And I’m the crazy one. I don’t pretend to know the truth, but I have my doubts. The more recordings we will have the more we can really understand what’s going on. And I would do the same if Noel pretend to do a live that sounded suspicious to me. I’m not the only one raising my unibrow on this matter. Lol I posted the biggest proof you will ever need, it was as clear as water, I really don't know why you're still talking about this but hey who am I to say what you can or can't talk about? If you're having the time of your live talking about this non-sense go on, but to me (and many others) they're so different.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 6, 2020 9:13:15 GMT -5
well I discuss with the ones interested, agreeing or disagreeing. You’re free to ignore this. To sum up your post, me saying things and putting things on the table is never proof but people who don’t agree with me saying things with no proof is proof (like this post of yours). And I’m the crazy one. I don’t pretend to know the truth, but I have my doubts. The more recordings we will have the more we can really understand what’s going on. And I would do the same if Noel pretend to do a live that sounded suspicious to me. I’m not the only one raising my unibrow on this matter. Lol I posted the biggest proof you will ever need, it was as clear as water, I really don't know why you're still talking about this but hey who am I to say what you can or can't talk about? If you're having the time of your live talking about this non-sense go on, but to me (and many others) they're so different.
wrong as you can change notes, correct pitch and add lengths to a sung lyric easily with any pro recording equipement. Not proof enough. If they swapped takes from same sessions as is suspect, not proof enough
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Post by eva on Dec 6, 2020 9:28:47 GMT -5
This is the 3rd thread in which you have spread this "debate" and then you cry about being censored. Ridiculous
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 6, 2020 10:06:06 GMT -5
This is the 3rd thread in which you have spread this "debate" and then you cry about being censored. Ridiculous and you and I are not fair etc.
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Post by eva on Dec 6, 2020 10:11:05 GMT -5
This is the 3rd thread in which you have spread this "debate" and then you cry about being censored. Ridiculous and you and I are not fair etc. Because a graphic was moved to the kiddies corner... *shrug* Oh well, let's not get too off topic
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 6, 2020 10:22:23 GMT -5
and you and I are not fair etc. Because a graphic was moved to the kiddies corner... *shrug* Oh well, let's not get too off topic Agreed. Let's get back to the topic before a certain member reports us to webby again.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 6, 2020 13:47:41 GMT -5
I've downloaded this version of All Your Dreaming Of which was broadcast on Jimmy Fallon's show but I haven't listened to it yet.
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