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Post by mossy on Jan 22, 2021 13:24:07 GMT -5
I agree. I haven’t heard the podcast so haven’t heard his exact words, but there’s no way these old songs weren’t recorded. They probably weren’t recorded in a proper studio, but he’ll have a tape of some sort. I can’t remember stuff I did last week never mind from twenty five years ago! X On the other hand, he apparently said that once he's written a song, he can find it again from memory only. Reconstruct it. This is true, it happens to me too. Although unlike Noel, no one wants to hear them  Yeah I remember him saying that. I still doubt all these songs went completely unrecorded. Cos Noel has never used hyperbole has he! X |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 22, 2021 13:51:00 GMT -5
I remember the run up to SOTSOG in the fall of 1999. On those very early message boards and forums we all tried to come up with potential songs for the record. Slow was always included and it stayed that way for HC as well but then faded before DBTT as the song faded from memory. Even when referenced at a Q&A for DBTT Noel seemed to joke around about it even being a thing. Glad it’s legit. Glad it could be released? Will it be good? Who knows. Logic says if it was that good Noel would have used it years ago, especially when he had writers block at the beginning of the 2000s. Funny how 'Slow' seemed to take off where other unreleased songs didn't. I agree that logic dictates that if it was strong it would've come out beforehand but the fact Noel is returning to it after all of this time is interesting and most surprising. Neither do I. It'd be stretching the bounds of what Oasis is but I'd give it a pass if packaged correctly. I've yet to hear the podcast but wouldn't be surprised if these 14 unrecorded songs had in fact been recorded in some format at some point. Is Noel suggesting he's just banked them in his head all this time? The assumption on Revival comes from this Noel quote: Based on that quote, others which describe the song and the timing of these quotes I'd say it's very plausible but not definitive.
Other officially unreleased Noel written songs post-Be Here Now include: - Slow [97] - God Will Never Save Your Soul [97] - For One So Young [98]* - Don't Be Down [02] - The Magic Can't Be Right [02] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era]** - Mile High Moon [09] - Oh Lord! [Post-DOYS]*** * Definitely demoed
** Definitely demoed. In public possession.
*** Definitely demoed. In public possession. Possibly written Post-Oasis.Noel literally says in the pod that all 14 songs were never recorded or properly written down. All from memory. Who knows the truth. Half lies more likely. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 22, 2021 14:07:16 GMT -5
Other officially unreleased Noel written songs post-Be Here Now include: - Slow [97] - God Will Never Save Your Soul [97] - For One So Young [98]* - Don't Be Down [02] - The Magic Can't Be Right [02] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era]** - Mile High Moon [09] - Oh Lord! [Post-DOYS]*** * Definitely demoed
** Definitely demoed. In public possession.
*** Definitely demoed. In public possession. Possibly written Post-Oasis.I'd say all those post MG have been recorded in some form, rough demo or finished demo / rough tracks. That was the way to go for Noel and Andy/Gem when they joined. All Oasis demos from BHN onwards were basically alternate version and not just "demos". So there's hope many many Oasis songs are unreleased. I'd pretty much agree that they've all probably been demoed in some form but no one can say with any certainty. I think there's likely tonnes of unreleased stuff, a fair chunk of which we've probably never even heard about. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 22, 2021 14:24:52 GMT -5
I doubt very much that Noel would ever release these songs under the Oasis name especially now and I think that he'll release them under his own name. I guess it remains to be seen when and if this project gets underway.
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Post by asimarx on Jan 22, 2021 14:27:36 GMT -5
Secondly, it was only Mike Rowe who raved about Dead In The Water - which I think is a masterclass Noel song - in an interview during Chasing Yesterday. Noel never mentioned it before it was released, and almost forgot about it before someone recommended it for the album. He did mention Dead in the Water at least twice around time of the Chasing Yesterday press campaign. I definitely remember a namecheck in a German music magazine in early 2015 and here's a translated quote from the February 2015 issue of the french Rolling Stone (no clue if the mag is actually called "pierre roulante"  ) "I've constantly got twenty-five to thirty songs. Always. There was periods when I didn't have that; before Oasis got a record deal, I had pretty much the first three albums written. But because we were so busy in those four years, when it came to Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, I had no songs – so I had to write from scratch and it freaked me out a little bit. Ever since then, I write all the time. I could play you thirty songs now, on the guitar. And some of them are pretty fucking good. 16 or 17 of them will be finished; others are waiting on a second verse. Some are waiting on lyrics, but they're all there.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 22, 2021 14:33:22 GMT -5
When Noel writes a new song he often says that it's his best song. I really wonder what he thinks is his best song he's written and I'm sure there will be plenty more songs he writes in the future which he thinks are his best song.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 22, 2021 14:40:43 GMT -5
Secondly, it was only Mike Rowe who raved about Dead In The Water - which I think is a masterclass Noel song - in an interview during Chasing Yesterday. Noel never mentioned it before it was released, and almost forgot about it before someone recommended it for the album. He did mention Dead in the Water at least twice around time of the Chasing Yesterday press campaign. I definitely remember a namecheck in a German music magazine in early 2015 and here's a translated quote from the February 2015 issue of the french Rolling Stone (no clue if the mag is actually called "pierre roulante" ) "I've constantly got twenty-five to thirty songs. Always. There was periods when I didn't have that; before Oasis got a record deal, I had pretty much the first three albums written. But because we were so busy in those four years, when it came to Standing on the Shoulders of Giants, I had no songs – so I had to write from scratch and it freaked me out a little bit. Ever since then, I write all the time. I could play you thirty songs now, on the guitar. And some of them are pretty fucking good. 16 or 17 of them will be finished; others are waiting on a second verse. Some are waiting on lyrics, but they're all there.
He said he wrote his best song, it's called : Dead In The Water."
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 22, 2021 15:00:18 GMT -5
When Noel writes a new song he often says that it's his best song. I really wonder what he thinks is his best song he's written and I'm sure there will be plenty more songs he writes in the future which he thinks are his best song. Rock n Roll Star |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2021 15:52:27 GMT -5
Funny how 'Slow' seemed to take off where other unreleased songs didn't. I agree that logic dictates that if it was strong it would've come out beforehand but the fact Noel is returning to it after all of this time is interesting and most surprising. Neither do I. It'd be stretching the bounds of what Oasis is but I'd give it a pass if packaged correctly. I've yet to hear the podcast but wouldn't be surprised if these 14 unrecorded songs had in fact been recorded in some format at some point. Is Noel suggesting he's just banked them in his head all this time? The assumption on Revival comes from this Noel quote: Based on that quote, others which describe the song and the timing of these quotes I'd say it's very plausible but not definitive.
Other officially unreleased Noel written songs post-Be Here Now include: - Slow [97] - God Will Never Save Your Soul [97] - For One So Young [98]* - Don't Be Down [02] - The Magic Can't Be Right [02] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era]** - Mile High Moon [09] - Oh Lord! [Post-DOYS]*** * Definitely demoed
** Definitely demoed. In public possession.
*** Definitely demoed. In public possession. Possibly written Post-Oasis.Noel literally says in the pod that all 14 songs were never recorded or properly written down. All from memory. Who knows the truth. Half lies more likely. All from memory?  Yeah right. They were probably in the same box he found that other Oasis demo. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 22, 2021 17:54:27 GMT -5
When Noel writes a new song he often says that it's his best song. I really wonder what he thinks is his best song he's written and I'm sure there will be plenty more songs he writes in the future which he thinks are his best song. Rock n Roll Star Didn't he once say that Supersonic was the best song he's ever written? I think he did . |
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Post by mossy on Jan 22, 2021 18:06:04 GMT -5
Noel literally says in the pod that all 14 songs were never recorded or properly written down. All from memory. Who knows the truth. Half lies more likely. All from memory? Yeah right. They were probably in the same box he found that other Oasis demo. He’s moved on from his socks drawer to his pants drawer. X |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 22, 2021 18:06:35 GMT -5
Didn't he once say that Supersonic was the best song he's ever written? I think he did . That one, Rock n Roll Star and Some Might Say are the ones he always mentions, but I remember him saying more than once that if one song summed up what he wanted to say and he wanted to be remembered as a songwriter that's RNRS |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 22, 2021 18:21:16 GMT -5
Didn't he once say that Supersonic was the best song he's ever written? I think he did . That one, Rock n Roll Star and Some Might Say are the ones he always mentions, but I remember him saying more than once that if one song summed up what he wanted to say and he wanted to be remembered as a songwriter that's RNRS Yeah, I thought so. It does make me laugh sometimes though as he always changes his best song he's written quite a lot in interviews. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 22, 2021 18:23:50 GMT -5
That one, Rock n Roll Star and Some Might Say are the ones he always mentions, but I remember him saying more than once that if one song summed up what he wanted to say and he wanted to be remembered as a songwriter that's RNRS Yeah, I thought so. It does make me laugh sometimes though as he always changes his best song he's written quite a lot in interviews. Well tbf I think it's quite normal for a songwriter to get excited about new stuff when it's good Then as the time goes by things stabilize themselves and some stand the test of time more than others |
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Post by mossy on Jan 22, 2021 18:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 19:27:39 GMT -5
"Liam Gallagher has been snubbed by Oasis as the band are set to release a brand new album without him."
It's interesting how they are trying to make it sound like the band is doing an album. Like Noel has suddenly got back together with everyone except Liam.
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Post by garylineker on Jan 22, 2021 19:35:27 GMT -5
"Liam Gallagher has been snubbed by Oasis as the band are set to release a brand new album without him."
It's interesting how they are trying to make it sound like the band is doing an album. Like Noel has suddenly got back together with everyone except Liam. It's almost as if Oasis/Noel and Liam get more clicks and interest than any other artist in the UK and making up absolitely any story they can on them is now the only way of getting views on their websites? |
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Post by garylineker on Jan 22, 2021 19:37:46 GMT -5
When Noel writes a new song he often says that it's his best song. I really wonder what he thinks is his best song he's written and I'm sure there will be plenty more songs he writes in the future which he thinks are his best song. When he's feeling ever so slightly humble he will say a song off Definitely Maybe and praise Liam's vocals. When he's in dickhead mode he will say songs he did vocal on. When he's in dickhead, tofu eating, pure delusional mode he will say something off Who Built The Moon. |
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Post by jh on Jan 23, 2021 6:46:19 GMT -5
"Liam Gallagher has been snubbed by Oasis as the band are set to release a brand new album without him."
It's interesting how they are trying to make it sound like the band is doing an album. Like Noel has suddenly got back together with everyone except Liam. It's almost as if Oasis/Noel and Liam get more clicks and interest than any other artist in the UK and making up absolitely any story they can on them is now the only way of getting views on their websites? Yeah total click bait bollocks. Mention Oasis everyone creams their draws, the bookies give some stupid odds and we get a bad posed band pic from 2008 with the grumpy four. Lets be honest, it is not a new oasis album being touted. It's songs that Noel already has, fair enough who cares when he wrote them. We will lap it up like the hungry dawgs we are 🤣 |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 23, 2021 7:15:55 GMT -5
It's not gonna happen but an Oasis album without Liam, that would be fun to watch. Just to see his face and his twitter feed. Only for that, do it NG.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 23, 2021 7:24:07 GMT -5
It's not gonna happen but an Oasis album without Liam, that would be fun to watch. Just to see his face and his twitter feed. Only for that, do it NG. I’d imagine Liam and his Twitter feed would be quite upset, until they heard it. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 23, 2021 7:39:09 GMT -5
Seriously tho, I don't think he'd ever do it, just as Liam and co didn't carry on with the name and became Beady Eye instead
As much shit as they talk about each other, and as many "problems" Noel's had with part of the fanbase, they both know what Oasis mean and represent
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Post by andymorris on Jan 23, 2021 7:47:22 GMT -5
It's not gonna happen but an Oasis album without Liam, that would be fun to watch. Just to see his face and his twitter feed. Only for that, do it NG. I’d imagine Liam and his Twitter feed would be quite upset, until they heard it. Well BHN demos, SOTsOG demos are quality. Of course it wouldnt be the same without Liam but it could work, depending on the kind of songs Noel would choose. NGHFB 1 is basically an Oasis album without Liam too. |
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Post by darmin on Jan 23, 2021 13:14:15 GMT -5
It's not gonna happen but an Oasis album without Liam, that would be fun to watch. Just to see his face and his twitter feed. Only for that, do it NG. I’d imagine Liam and his Twitter feed would be quite upset, until they heard it. Yep if he’s telling the truth about them being old that’s songs that weren’t good enough for the Oasis albums and his first solo records. And sadly this bar wasn’t super high. But maybe he just is hyping his new records, signaling for the fans that he’s gonna return to old roots and these songs are new? No “dudes&dudettes, Mancunian band oasis not gonna release new album, I’m too busy polishing my nails» from him yet. It’s my conspiracy theory I have made after I read this thread. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 23, 2021 13:35:45 GMT -5
I’d imagine Liam and his Twitter feed would be quite upset, until they heard it. Yep if he’s telling the truth about them being old that’s songs that weren’t good enough for the Oasis albums and his first solo records. And sadly this bar wasn’t super high. But maybe he just is hyping his new records, signaling for the fans that he’s gonna return to old roots and these songs are new? No “dudes&dudettes, Mancunian band oasis not gonna release new album, I’m too busy polishing my nails» from him yet. It’s my conspiracy theory I have made after I read this thread. Good God, this has nothing to do with his next record, he's been talking about it for the last 6 months, he talked about it in this episode too He has never even approached these "old demos" yet, may not do it for who knows how long, but they are two completely different things These old Oasis (or written during the Oasis days) tunes exist, he said he'd like to revisit them, as his new tunes ready to be recorded and be part of album #4 exist This is simply a case of an idea and a project he'd like to take on in the studio being turned into a definitive thing when he never said it was He's not come out and denied it as he's not come out and denied the thousands stories they have made up or embellished since the podcast has started |
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Yeah right. They were probably in the same box he found that other Oasis demo.
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