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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 1, 2021 12:37:33 GMT -5
I don’t think that there is realistic possibility that Liam will release 2 albums in 1 year. He is not Taylor Swift, he can’t just drop albums and disappear, he needs to promote them. I don’t think he can do 2 promo cycles in 1 year. Realistically I hope they choose the best songs for the new album. And maybe little EP later? Or super deluxe album with 20 songs? I don’t have much hope for b sides, I don’t know a lot about the music industry but who releases b-sides with singles nowadays? I mean real b-sides, not remixes or acoustic versions. I take all Gallagher brother quotes like a grain of salt. They talk so much and it rarely transpired the way they imagine. |
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 1, 2021 13:46:01 GMT -5
Well if it is only one album then I hope that we'll get to hear all of the other songs which Liam has got on the go as well. Perhaps they'll give the singles b-sides this time round, rather than just lyric etchings. That could provide an outlet for them. Maybe but knowing the Liam camp they probably won't. It would be nice if they gave us extra songs as bonus tracks on the album though other than just three. |
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Post by lg on Nov 2, 2021 3:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 3:56:08 GMT -5
I think it sounds promising. Liam having strong opinions how he likes it, but Andrew Wyatt also pushing for new influences (like a producer should) could be a good mix. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2021 4:20:07 GMT -5
I'll listen to that thank, at least we'll get some insider info. Is the guy actually eating while he's been interviewed ?  |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Nov 2, 2021 4:20:35 GMT -5
Quite the 3 a.m. dorm conversation! Didn't hear where he said specifically that he wrote the entire thing but it does sound like it's basically his musical vision driving it. Andrew's a trip, would love to be a fly-on-the-wall to hear how he and Liam converse ... |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2021 4:28:28 GMT -5
Quite the 3 a.m. dorm conversation! Didn't hear where he said specifically that he wrote the entire thing but it does sound like it's basically his musical vision driving it. Andrew's a trip, would love to be a fly-on-the-wall to hear how he and Liam converse ... He implied that he did it all without Liam, Liam just saying what sound he wants, at the beginning of the interview, just starting to listen but doesn't look like Liam did anything again. The guy sounds nuts and psychotic, should be a fun record |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Nov 2, 2021 4:38:55 GMT -5
Quite the 3 a.m. dorm conversation! Didn't hear where he said specifically that he wrote the entire thing but it does sound like it's basically his musical vision driving it. Andrew's a trip, would love to be a fly-on-the-wall to hear how he and Liam converse ... He implied that he did it all without Liam, Liam just saying what sound he wants, at the beginning of the interview, just starting to listen but doesn't look like Liam did anything again. The guy sounds nuts and psychotic, should be a fun record He implies that he's heavily involved in the musical direction but as to where each of the songs and lyrics came from ... not discussed at all. So, once again, you might never know, Andy, which is going to drive you crazy ... Most of the Liam news is at the beginning. He comes up a bit when talking about young people's desire for organic experiences, etcetera, but most of the last 2/3 gets into a whole range of sociopolitical convo ... interesting to learn that Wyatt was involved in Occupy. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2021 4:44:09 GMT -5
He implied that he did it all without Liam, Liam just saying what sound he wants, at the beginning of the interview, just starting to listen but doesn't look like Liam did anything again. The guy sounds nuts and psychotic, should be a fun record He implies that he's heavily involved in the musical direction but as to where each of the songs and lyrics came from ... not discussed at all. So, once again, you might never know, Andy, which is going to drive you crazy ... "The lyrics Liam is gonna have"... ok he didn't write shit. Keep listening, he says it clearly.  (he says "our" lyrics too later, so i don't know ) It is gonna drive me crazy indeed, but once again, if that's not clear enough, there is a rat. Always. He's an interesting character, i'll give you that. A bit Crazy, but who isn't. I loved his comments about people not being all talented. If Noel had said that... fire on the forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 4:57:55 GMT -5
Quite the 3 a.m. dorm conversation! Didn't hear where he said specifically that he wrote the entire thing but it does sound like it's basically his musical vision driving it. Andrew's a trip, would love to be a fly-on-the-wall to hear how he and Liam converse ... I didn't hear him say that either, maybe he was talking about producing it all? And to me it sounded like it was tricky because Liam had his musical vision and Andrew his, and that's why blending it all together has been a lot work. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 2, 2021 4:59:35 GMT -5
He implies that he's heavily involved in the musical direction but as to where each of the songs and lyrics came from ... not discussed at all. So, once again, you might never know, Andy, which is going to drive you crazy ... "The lyrics Liam is gonna have"... ok he didn't write shit. Keep listening, he says it clearly. (he says "our" lyrics too later, so i don't know ) It is gonna drive me crazy indeed, but once again, if that's not clear enough, there is a rat. Always. He's an interesting character, i'll give you that. A bit Crazy, but who isn't. I loved his comments about people not being all talented. If Noel had said that... fire on the forum. I can’t wait for more of your thoughts 😂 |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Nov 2, 2021 4:59:54 GMT -5
He implies that he's heavily involved in the musical direction but as to where each of the songs and lyrics came from ... not discussed at all. So, once again, you might never know, Andy, which is going to drive you crazy ... "The lyrics Liam is gonna have"... ok he didn't write shit. Keep listening, he says it clearly. (he says "our" lyrics too later, so i don't know ) It is gonna drive me crazy indeed, but once again, if that's not clear enough, there is a rat. Always. He's an interesting character, i'll give you that. A bit Crazy, but who isn't. I loved his comments about people not being all talented. If Noel had said that... fire on the forum. Well, whoever wrote what, it sounds like the album intends to break out of the wheelhouse and go bolder (either that or Wyatt is messing with us), so try to keep an open mind ... |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2021 5:00:53 GMT -5
Quite the 3 a.m. dorm conversation! Didn't hear where he said specifically that he wrote the entire thing but it does sound like it's basically his musical vision driving it. Andrew's a trip, would love to be a fly-on-the-wall to hear how he and Liam converse ... I didn't hear him say that either, maybe he was talking about producing it all? And to me it sounded like it was tricky because Liam had his musical vision and Andrew his, and that's why blending it all together has been a lot work. Yeah that was pretty vague, but what i got from that was that Liam had a big say in the way the song sound, not the way they are written. It was really about producing, and rejecting songs if they don't fit a certain musical period. We'll see. "The lyrics Liam is gonna have"... ok he didn't write shit. Keep listening, he says it clearly. (he says "our" lyrics too later, so i don't know ) It is gonna drive me crazy indeed, but once again, if that's not clear enough, there is a rat. Always. He's an interesting character, i'll give you that. A bit Crazy, but who isn't. I loved his comments about people not being all talented. If Noel had said that... fire on the forum. Well, whoever wrote what, it sounds like the album intends to break out of the wheelhouse and go bolder (either that or Wyatt is messing with us), so try to keep an open mind ... I am, i'm listening to a podcast from a guy who i think is writing average songs at best (but a good producer). If that's not open mind, what is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 5:32:31 GMT -5
I didn't hear him say that either, maybe he was talking about producing it all? And to me it sounded like it was tricky because Liam had his musical vision and Andrew his, and that's why blending it all together has been a lot work. Yeah that was pretty vague, but what i got from that was that Liam had a big say in the way the song sound, not the way they are written. It was really about producing, and rejecting songs if they don't fit a certain musical period. We'll see. Now you are just making things up. He didn't talk about Liam rejecting songs, he was talkin about where Liam's musical references come from. |
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Post by lg on Nov 2, 2021 6:25:19 GMT -5
I don't like this shifting tbh
I've said this before, Andrew is very talented but I'm not here for Andrew Wyatt, I'm here for LG
It should be a real co-writing partnership and not "Andrew writes and produces the whole thing and Liam Just sings the songs"
I know that Liam Is working for a Major but he always talks about being "real", what's real about this whole process?
People will say "yeah but he's not a songwriter". He can write some great tunes,he's not very prolific and this Is why he needs help in the songwriting process.
I just hope that he didn't choose the easy way.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 2, 2021 6:28:17 GMT -5
I don't like this shifting tbh I've said this before, Andrew is very talented but I'm not here for Andrew Wyatt, I'm here for LG It should be a real co-writing partnership and not "Andrew writes and produces the whole thing and Liam Just sings the songs" I know that Liam Is working for a Major but he always talks about being "real", what's real about this whole process? People will say "yeah but he's not a songwriter". He can write some great tunes,he's not very prolific and this Is why he needs help in the songwriting process. I just hope that he didn't choose the easy way. Why did you like Liam Gallagher from DM to SOTSOG? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 2, 2021 6:31:50 GMT -5
I don't like this shifting tbh I've said this before, Andrew is very talented but I'm not here for Andrew Wyatt, I'm here for LG It should be a real co-writing partnership and not "Andrew writes and produces the whole thing and Liam Just sings the songs" I know that Liam Is working for a Major but he always talks about being "real", what's real about this whole process? People will say "yeah but he's not a songwriter". He can write some great tunes,he's not very prolific and this Is why he needs help in the songwriting process. I just hope that he didn't choose the easy way. Why did you like Liam Gallagher from DM to SOTSOG? Oasis were Noel's vision with Liam's voice being a prominent factor of the success, they were a band and people in it had different tasks and roles IF (if) what will come out is Andrew Wyatt's vision, a commissioned songwriter from a record label, well let's hear Wyatt's record then, not something with Liam Gallagher written in capital letters on the front cover |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 2, 2021 6:39:33 GMT -5
Why did you like Liam Gallagher from DM to SOTSOG? Oasis were Noel's vision with Liam's voice being a prominent factor of the success, they were a band and people in it had different tasks and roles IF (if) what will come out is Andrew Wyatt's vision, a commissioned songwriter from a record label, well let's hear Wyatt's record then, not something with Liam Gallagher written in capital letters on the front cover Clearly from his comments Liam has a say on the musical direction. He’s doing what good producers do, push the artist. Are you saying Oasis should have just had Noel Gallagher written in capital letters on the front as it was his vision? More than that, Liam clearly wants to work, sing songs and go out and play them to people. This is way to do that, if you’re not on board with it that’s fair enough but you know, listening or being interested is optional. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 2, 2021 6:46:37 GMT -5
Oasis were Noel's vision with Liam's voice being a prominent factor of the success, they were a band and people in it had different tasks and roles IF (if) what will come out is Andrew Wyatt's vision, a commissioned songwriter from a record label, well let's hear Wyatt's record then, not something with Liam Gallagher written in capital letters on the front cover Clearly from his comments Liam has a say on the musical direction. He’s doing what good producers do, push the artist. Are you saying Oasis should have just had Noel Gallagher written in capital letters on the front as it was his vision? More than that, Liam clearly wants to work, sing songs and go out and play them to people. This is way to do that, if you’re not on board with it that’s fair enough but you know, listening or being interested is optional. No, I'm saying Oasis had not "Noel Gallagher" written on the front, the way they worked was still within the members of the band Liam has his own name written on the front, I'd love a bit more than an Andrew Wyatt record with Liam singing My opinion, I'm perfectly aware Liam is happy this way and I can fuck off Tom |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 7:14:04 GMT -5
Weird how differently everyone is interpreting what was said in the podcast.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 2, 2021 8:00:56 GMT -5
I don't like this shifting tbh I've said this before, Andrew is very talented but I'm not here for Andrew Wyatt, I'm here for LG It should be a real co-writing partnership and not "Andrew writes and produces the whole thing and Liam Just sings the songs" I know that Liam Is working for a Major but he always talks about being "real", what's real about this whole process? People will say "yeah but he's not a songwriter". He can write some great tunes,he's not very prolific and this Is why he needs help in the songwriting process. I just hope that he didn't choose the easy way. Agreed. Seems like Liam just order songs and says that they have to sound retro rock n roll. Again, Wyatt was jut vague enough not to reveal the whole scam. You have to read between the lines really. What Wyatt said sounded a lot like what Noel was saying about Liam (But Noel always lies, right) and seemed under a lot of pressure to produce the record a certain way. Liam wants a certain type of songs and doesnt want to get out of this formula. Sounded annoyed a bit by his close minded approach tbh. But again, Liam's cult will want to ignore that. Also thought Wyatt saw Liam as a bit of a difficult guy to work with, again, as Noel said. He's smart in that way, Liam, he knows what his fans wants, and wont move a bit south to surprise them. That's clever for business, but is it interesting ? hardly. Wait and see with this new record. Clearly from his comments Liam has a say on the musical direction. He’s doing what good producers do, push the artist. Are you saying Oasis should have just had Noel Gallagher written in capital letters on the front as it was his vision? More than that, Liam clearly wants to work, sing songs and go out and play them to people. This is way to do that, if you’re not on board with it that’s fair enough but you know, listening or being interested is optional. No, I'm saying Oasis had not "Noel Gallagher" written on the front, the way they worked was still within the members of the band Liam has his own name written on the front, I'd love a bit more than an Andrew Wyatt record with Liam singing My opinion, I'm perfectly aware Liam is happy this way and I can fuck off Tom Amen |
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Post by Rolo on Nov 2, 2021 8:02:57 GMT -5
They've been working on The Worlds In Need so there will be Liam tunes on the album. That podcast doesn't prove how much he's written or contributed at all. It's all guesswork.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 2, 2021 8:56:31 GMT -5
I don't like this shifting tbh I've said this before, Andrew is very talented but I'm not here for Andrew Wyatt, I'm here for LG It should be a real co-writing partnership and not "Andrew writes and produces the whole thing and Liam Just sings the songs" I know that Liam Is working for a Major but he always talks about being "real", what's real about this whole process? People will say "yeah but he's not a songwriter". He can write some great tunes,he's not very prolific and this Is why he needs help in the songwriting process. I just hope that he didn't choose the easy way. Agreed. Seems like Liam just order songs and says that they have to sound retro rock n roll. Again, Wyatt was jut vague enough not to reveal the whole scam. You have to read between the lines really. What Wyatt said sounded a lot like what Noel was saying about Liam (But Noel always lies, right) and seemed under a lot of pressure to produce the record a certain way. Liam wants a certain type of songs and doesnt want to get out of this formula. Sounded annoyed a bit by his close minded approach tbh. But again, Liam's cult will want to ignore that. Also thought Wyatt saw Liam as a bit of a difficult guy to work with, again, as Noel said. He's smart in that way, Liam, he knows what his fans wants, and wont move a bit south to surprise them. That's clever for business, but is it interesting ? hardly. Wait and see with this new record. No, I'm saying Oasis had not "Noel Gallagher" written on the front, the way they worked was still within the members of the band Liam has his own name written on the front, I'd love a bit more than an Andrew Wyatt record with Liam singing My opinion, I'm perfectly aware Liam is happy this way and I can fuck off Tom Amen It’s not a scam but you are an idiot |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Nov 2, 2021 9:31:52 GMT -5
A crazy (if typical) amount of assumptions are being made from a podcast in which they talked more about ketamine and Bernie Sanders than Liam's record!
Nowhere did Wyatt say he wrote 100% of the songs. Nowhere did Wyatt even come close to saying Liam was hard to work with. He said he was finding it musically challenging to incorporate Liam's traditional influences with newer sounds, a challenge someone like Wyatt clearly enjoys.
Most importantly, nowhere did you get any sense as to whether you will like the new album or not unless you are clairvoyant. At best you got a few tidbits about how Wyatt and Liam want to seize on this cultural moment to do something more wide-reaching than what they have done before (and yes, it's "they." Obviously, Wyatt is a gun-for-hire whose name goes in the credits and not on the cover ... but they'll have collaborated on nearly half as many studio albums as Oasis when this one's done so not sure why anyone is surprised at what was already known before this podcast: they have a good partnership that they're both invested in. Everyone knew this part already, so it's unclear to me why it's suddenly a controversy again.)
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 2, 2021 9:45:09 GMT -5
A crazy (if typical) amount of assumptions are being made from a podcast in which they talked more about ketamine and Bernie Sanders than Liam's record! Nowhere did Wyatt say he wrote 100% of the songs. Nowhere did Wyatt even come close to saying Liam was hard to work with. He said he was finding it musically challenging to incorporate Liam's traditional influences with newer sounds, a challenge someone like Wyatt clearly enjoys. Most importantly, nowhere did you get any sense as to whether you will like the new album or not unless you are clairvoyant. At best you got a few tidbits about how Wyatt and Liam want to seize on this cultural moment to do something more wide-reaching than what they have done before (and yes, it's "they." Obviously, Wyatt is a gun-for-hire whose name goes in the credits and not on the cover ... but they'll have collaborated on nearly half as many studio albums as Oasis when this one's done so not sure why anyone is surprised at what was already known before this podcast: they have a good partnership that they're both invested in. Everyone knew this part already, so it's unclear to me why it's suddenly a controversy again.) I'll answer for myself as obviously not everyone has the same views: - I've said it multiple times already, I'd love to hear a record where it's Liam's songwriting inputs developed by someone who can help him doing it instead of a half-Liam/half-someone else with a few lines Liam changes to get a writing credit or even worse an 80 someone else/20 Liam record I don't like the way the industry and majors work with pop acts, it's not just Liam by the way Now it could be that in the end what we get is a Liam heavy record, I'll be the happiest person, but TO ME it doesn't seem to be what we're heading towards to - This is more personal, but I'm not a huge fan of Wyatt's songwriting, to use a euphemism Would've preferred various songwriting partnerships and then a sole producer to bring it all together Again, as it seems to be something that needs to be clarified, these are just my thoughts I'm aware Liam is probably happy this way and will sell a shitload of records and I can just go and listen to something else in my collection and my opinion doesn't hold any kind of meaning It's just that I like to discuss stuff and despite not loving the direction I still have an interest in what Liam comes up with |
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