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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 4, 2021 14:30:51 GMT -5
Angels is great foreplay song.
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Post by theunderclass on Oct 4, 2021 16:22:06 GMT -5
Came here for discussion on the new album, got pages and pages of trolling … sad to see.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Oct 4, 2021 16:41:23 GMT -5
Came here for discussion on the new album, got pages and pages of trolling … sad to see. The thing is that there is no new album! All anybody knows is the date, the album cover, the titles of maybe 3 songs (one sunshine-y, your definition may vary), the somewhat vague possibility of a song that in Liam's head has a dub reggae influence and that Andrew Wyatt probably wrote a bunch of it and is definitely producing it. I'm sure we'll get some more tidbits in time, and fingers crossed a single within a few months, but until then, and it's not right around the corner, there can only be conjecture and debate of what direction people prefer him to go. There's nothing else. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 4, 2021 17:58:53 GMT -5
Ok then back on topic : percentage of music you think Liam wrote:
My guess : 3.14 %
Wild guess or something that would be cool : a track played only by him, guitar and voice
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Post by tezza198 on Oct 4, 2021 19:48:47 GMT -5
Came here for discussion on the new album, got pages and pages of trolling … sad to see. I know right, I was busy on the weekend so I came to back read everything since the announcement and its all bitching and mounting about fucking everything, unreal. The albums cover is good, I wish that everyone was looking at the camera but it's different and shows what Liam is about - the people. The 8 month wait is long but it means we have 8 exciting months ahead of interesting discussions and excitement. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Oct 5, 2021 0:10:24 GMT -5
I know right, I was busy on the weekend so I came to back read everything since the announcement and its all bitching and mounting about fucking everything, unreal. The albums cover is good, I wish that everyone was looking at the camera but it's different and shows what Liam is about - the people. Was kinda curious if the feeling that posts in this thread are mostly negative is actually true. So I counted the ones since the announcement of COYK. I didn’t count complaints about the store or obvious jokes or personal arguments (there were a lot of negative comments made about people on this board, but I stuck only to comments about Liam’s album, the potential songs, the cover, and Knebworth, anything Liam-output-related.) The final count was: Positive: 29 posts
Mixed: 14 Posts
Negative: 17 posts
(“Mixed” means it was a post that said something like “I like the photo on the cover but I think it could be a bit better." Some posters might think of those comments as mostly positive but I weighted it away from positive just to be as fair as possible) Wasn't a big job. Took me about 12 minutes of skimming (there are only 5 pages of posts since then and I’m used to reading large chunks of text in my job.) Maybe that puts things a little more in perspective, though. There are definitely negative posts here, yet they don’t predominate at all. There are however a pretty high number of posts trading personal barbs which probably adds to the feeling that it’s all negative. In general, though, it might be “Better Days” around here than it appears. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 5, 2021 0:18:02 GMT -5
Things will become more positive as we inch closer to content. Right now we're coasting on very little.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 4:55:31 GMT -5
I know right, I was busy on the weekend so I came to back read everything since the announcement and its all bitching and mounting about fucking everything, unreal. The albums cover is good, I wish that everyone was looking at the camera but it's different and shows what Liam is about - the people. Was kinda curious if the feeling that posts in this thread are mostly negative is actually true. So I counted the ones since the announcement of COYK. I didn’t count complaints about the store or obvious jokes or personal arguments (there were a lot of negative comments made about people on this board, but I stuck only to comments about Liam’s album, the potential songs, the cover, and Knebworth, anything Liam-output-related.) The final count was: Positive: 29 posts
Mixed: 14 Posts
Negative: 17 posts
(“Mixed” means it was a post that said something like “I like the photo on the cover but I think it could be a bit better." Some posters might think of those comments as mostly positive but I weighted it away from positive just to be as fair as possible) Wasn't a big job. Took me about 12 minutes of skimming (there are only 5 pages of posts since then and I’m used to reading large chunks of text in my job.) Maybe that puts things a little more in perspective, though. There are definitely negative posts here, yet they don’t predominate at all. There are however a pretty high number of posts trading personal barbs which probably adds to the feeling that it’s all negative. In general, though, it might be “Better Days” around here than it appears. Hehe nice. Constructive criticism, i would call that. Or It's the Black sheep effect, simply put. That effect is more and more put upfront since social medias and on forums because people tend to reject what is different to them. It's human nature. If you don't like what i like, you don't like me, so i don't like you. Simple as that. what job do you do if i may ask ? screenplays selection ? I read real fast too, from my old job, sometimes a bit too fast. I need to slow down. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2021 5:00:04 GMT -5
Was kinda curious if the feeling that posts in this thread are mostly negative is actually true. So I counted the ones since the announcement of COYK. I didn’t count complaints about the store or obvious jokes or personal arguments (there were a lot of negative comments made about people on this board, but I stuck only to comments about Liam’s album, the potential songs, the cover, and Knebworth, anything Liam-output-related.) The final count was: Positive: 29 posts
Mixed: 14 Posts
Negative: 17 posts
(“Mixed” means it was a post that said something like “I like the photo on the cover but I think it could be a bit better." Some posters might think of those comments as mostly positive but I weighted it away from positive just to be as fair as possible) Wasn't a big job. Took me about 12 minutes of skimming (there are only 5 pages of posts since then and I’m used to reading large chunks of text in my job.) Maybe that puts things a little more in perspective, though. There are definitely negative posts here, yet they don’t predominate at all. There are however a pretty high number of posts trading personal barbs which probably adds to the feeling that it’s all negative. In general, though, it might be “Better Days” around here than it appears. Hehe nice. Constructive criticism, i would call that. Or It's the Black sheep effect, simply put. That effect is more and more put upfront since social medias and on forums because people tend to reject what is different to them. It's human nature. If you don't like what i like, you don't like me, so i don't like you. Simple as that. what job do you do if i may ask ? screenplays selection ? I read real fast too, from my old job, sometimes a bit too fast. I need to slow down. Don’t try and put yourself in the bracket of constructive criticism. A lot of people on this forum criticise with eloquence and intelligence or are blunt but not repetitive. Those things don’t apply to you. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 5:10:06 GMT -5
Hehe nice. Constructive criticism, i would call that. Or It's the Black sheep effect, simply put. That effect is more and more put upfront since social medias and on forums because people tend to reject what is different to them. It's human nature. If you don't like what i like, you don't like me, so i don't like you. Simple as that. what job do you do if i may ask ? screenplays selection ? I read real fast too, from my old job, sometimes a bit too fast. I need to slow down. Don’t try and put yourself in the bracket of constructive criticism. A lot of people on this forum criticise with eloquence and intelligence or are blunt but not repetitive. Those things don’t apply to you. Do i want Liam to get better as an artist and not lie in mediocrity and laziness. Yes, Therefore === constructive criticism. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not valid, again. If i said "Liam is shit, he'll never do anything, all he do is shit" != constructive criticism Get it ? (and who's the repetive one going after every and each one of my posts ? you... ) This is going to the playpen probably, i know. But i have to defend myself.  |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 5:11:36 GMT -5
I sure hope that Liam's new album doesn't have any songs on it which sound like Angels because I absolutely hate that song. Why ? It's good tune. Sure it's robbie williams, but he had some ok album at the beginning of his solo career. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2021 5:34:09 GMT -5
Don’t try and put yourself in the bracket of constructive criticism. A lot of people on this forum criticise with eloquence and intelligence or are blunt but not repetitive. Those things don’t apply to you. Do i want Liam to get better as an artist and not lie in mediocrity and laziness. Yes, Therefore === constructive criticism. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not valid, again. If i said "Liam is shit, he'll never do anything, all he do is shit" != constructive criticism Get it ? (and who's the repetive one going after every and each one of my posts ? you... ) This is going to the playpen probably, i know. But i have to defend myself. How do you know he’s lazy? Isn’t it more likely that he just isn’t a consistent or prolific songwriter as he himself has said and his record shows. Why do you ignore the evidence? It seems you do in order maintain the same line of criticism. So no, I don’t think you’re interested in constructive criticism, as your record shows. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 5, 2021 12:41:54 GMT -5
I wonder how many singles will be released before the album is actually released this time?
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 5, 2021 13:08:17 GMT -5
Do i want Liam to get better as an artist and not lie in mediocrity and laziness. Yes, Therefore === constructive criticism. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not valid, again. If i said "Liam is shit, he'll never do anything, all he do is shit" != constructive criticism Get it ? (and who's the repetive one going after every and each one of my posts ? you... ) This is going to the playpen probably, i know. But i have to defend myself. How do you know he’s lazy? Isn’t it more likely that he just isn’t a consistent or prolific songwriter as he himself has said and his record shows. Why do you ignore the evidence? It seems you do in order maintain the same line of criticism. So no, I don’t think you’re interested in constructive criticism, as your record shows. Yeah I'm not sure how anyone thinks laziness is the reason a man pushing 50 can't suddenly make himself into a great songwriter. It's because he isn't a musician and that limits him to just strumming some chords and getting a verse melody and about twice in his life he has managed to then put a chorus together with it. He isn't good with words either, his Twitter reads like that of a primary school kid sometimes, if there was some unlocked potential in Liam's songwriting it would have been found 2 decades ago. I think he has a good balance where he continues to try and write stuff and then others help polish it up a bit and have them give him good songs to flesh out the album. Anyone who still thinks he should do anything else is an idiot really. |
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Post by darmin on Oct 5, 2021 14:01:24 GMT -5
OMG I can’t with this thread(s). One is moaning that the album is gonna be rushed. You’d think that if this is so important for this person he would check dates and realize that the new album is gonna be released (hopefully) almost 3 years after WMWN. But nope.
Others are moaning that Liam may not/didn’t write songs himself for this album although there is absolutely no information about it. Liam had plenty of time to write songs and if he did write good ones I’m sure they gonna be on the album.
Constructive criticism lol. There is nothing to criticize yet, constructively or not. The album isn’t released yet.
You can criticize only the cover, nothing more. Everything else is speculations. And in one case, pathetic trolling
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 5, 2021 14:08:54 GMT -5
All I know is I can’t wait. Couldn’t care who wrote the songs as long as they’re good and he smashes it on the album and live it’s all good with me
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Post by girllikeabomb on Oct 5, 2021 14:58:17 GMT -5
OMG I can’t with this thread(s). One is moaning that the album is gonna be rushed. You’d think that if this is so important for this person he would check dates and realize that the new album is gonna be released (hopefully) almost 3 years after WMWN. But nope. Others are moaning that Liam may not/didn’t write songs himself for this album although there is absolutely no information about it. Liam had plenty of time to write songs and if he did write good ones I’m sure they gonna be on the album. Constructive criticism lol. There is nothing to criticize yet, constructively or not. The album isn’t released yet. You can criticize only the cover, nothing more. Everything else is speculations. And in one case, pathetic trolling Agreed, it's all speculations. That's all we got right now, hungry as we are. But if people are upset to the point of despair about speculations then why not just come back when there are tunes or at least snippets/titles/descriptions? No one forces anyone to read every post in a time of no news. I certainly skip past plenty! Also, the dates between albums has nothing to do with whether an album is being rushed or not rushed. It has to do with HOW the album is made. We know Liam already said the album was half-recorded earlier this year and would be finished in October. (It's also clear that Wyatt has not been recording with Liam since the earlier session so that timing still seems in place.) So yes, it's a compressed time frame from this point forward, not three years. (Whether songs were written long ago, we don't know and we probably never will but they haven't been recorded yet) Some people wait to finish (or nearly finish) an album and then set the release date and in this case the release date was set in stone before the album is finished. Is that rushed? Maybe, maybe not, but it's not completely out there to bring it up. Since I just read through all these posts last night, I also know for sure that what Leron said was that he "HOPES" the album isn't rushed. He never made a prediction. It's just so harmless, to be honest. Wonder how things are going to when there are more substantive criticisms of the music. (And there will be because no song was ever written that everyone on earth agrees is great--and people have very different desires for Liam's music in particular.) Anyway, interesting to me how people want to police opinions, even when stated respectfully. I'm as excited as anyone about the album, but no one else's opinion can change what it will be or how I will feel when I listen to it, whether it's ecstasy or something lesser. They're only words, folks. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 16:14:00 GMT -5
The constructive criticism was for previous releases if that wasn’t clear. Anyway..
Well MG was recorded in 12 days and look how that turned out, it can take a day or 20 years it doesn’t matter.
Liam albums cant be rushed since people are working on it for him months in advance. If a song sounds bad (erm shockwave this is you) it’s because the people behind it did a terrible job.
He just need to do vocals and maybe (probably) give approval to the mixes. Can’t picture him doing much else, same as in oasis.
WMYN sounded good overall with a very nice production but some wtf moments though.
Am I being good there ? (yes/no teach Tom do you give me a good grade ?)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 5, 2021 16:32:39 GMT -5
I’m a simple man. Give me good tunes and a cool haircut from Liam and I’m a happy guy.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2021 16:35:39 GMT -5
The constructive criticism was for previous releases if that wasn’t clear. Anyway.. Well MG was recorded in 12 days and look how that turned out, it can take a day or 20 years it doesn’t matter. Liam albums cant be rushed since people are working on it for him months in advance. If a song sounds bad (erm shockwave this is you) it’s because the people behind it did a terrible job. He just need to do vocals and maybe (probably) give approval to the mixes. Can’t picture him doing much else, same as in oasis. WMYN sounded good overall with a very nice production but some wtf moments though. Am I being good there ? (yes/no teach Tom do you give me a good grade ?) The fact that you can’t or won’t respond to mine or Freddy’s posts tells me all I need to know. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2021 16:37:07 GMT -5
OMG I can’t with this thread(s). One is moaning that the album is gonna be rushed. You’d think that if this is so important for this person he would check dates and realize that the new album is gonna be released (hopefully) almost 3 years after WMWN. But nope. Others are moaning that Liam may not/didn’t write songs himself for this album although there is absolutely no information about it. Liam had plenty of time to write songs and if he did write good ones I’m sure they gonna be on the album. Constructive criticism lol. There is nothing to criticize yet, constructively or not. The album isn’t released yet. You can criticize only the cover, nothing more. Everything else is speculations. And in one case, pathetic trolling Agreed, it's all speculations. That's all we got right now, hungry as we are. But if people are upset to the point of despair about speculations then why not just come back when there are tunes or at least snippets/titles/descriptions? No one forces anyone to read every post in a time of no news. I certainly skip past plenty! Also, the dates between albums has nothing to do with whether an album is being rushed or not rushed. It has to do with HOW the album is made. We know Liam already said the album was half-recorded earlier this year and would be finished in October. (It's also clear that Wyatt has not been recording with Liam since the earlier session so that timing still seems in place.) So yes, it's a compressed time frame from this point forward, not three years. (Whether songs were written long ago, we don't know and we probably never will but they haven't been recorded yet) Some people wait to finish (or nearly finish) an album and then set the release date and in this case the release date was set in stone before the album is finished. Is that rushed? Maybe, maybe not, but it's not completely out there to bring it up. Since I just read through all these posts last night, I also know for sure that what Leron said was that he "HOPES" the album isn't rushed. He never made a prediction. It's just so harmless, to be honest. Wonder how things are going to when there are more substantive criticisms of the music. (And there will be because no song was ever written that everyone on earth agrees is great--and people have very different desires for Liam's music in particular.) Anyway, interesting to me how people want to police opinions, even when stated respectfully. I'm as excited as anyone about the album, but no one else's opinion can change what it will be or how I will feel when I listen to it, whether it's ecstasy or something lesser. They're only words, folks. Who’s being policed? |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 16:39:54 GMT -5
The fact that you can’t or won’t respond to mine or Freddy’s posts tells me all I need to know. Shit I make one half good comment about Liam and you don’t even recognize the effort. I have a feeling you don’t really like me. Who’s being policed 🤣 you are a funny one. You think you are the law |
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Post by Rolo on Oct 5, 2021 16:45:44 GMT -5
The constructive criticism was for previous releases if that wasn’t clear. Anyway.. Well MG was recorded in 12 days and look how that turned out, it can take a day or 20 years it doesn’t matter. Liam albums cant be rushed since people are working on it for him months in advance. If a song sounds bad (erm shockwave this is you) it’s because the people behind it did a terrible job. He just need to do vocals and maybe (probably) give approval to the mixes. Can’t picture him doing much else, same as in oasis.WMYN sounded good overall with a very nice production but some wtf moments though. Am I being good there ? (yes/no teach Tom do you give me a good grade ?) Not watched As It Was then I take it? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 5, 2021 16:50:36 GMT -5
The fact that you can’t or won’t respond to mine or Freddy’s posts tells me all I need to know. Shit I make one half good comment about Liam and you don’t even recognize the effort. I have a feeling you don’t really like me. Who’s being policed 🤣 you are a funny one. You think you are the law You made a point, me and Freddy both answered it and then you ignore it. That's because you don't really have any interest in the truth, its all about the wind up. If it wasn't someone so committed to authenticity and what's real like yourself wouldn't ignore it. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 5, 2021 17:00:36 GMT -5
Shit I make one half good comment about Liam and you don’t even recognize the effort. I have a feeling you don’t really like me. Who’s being policed 🤣 you are a funny one. You think you are the law You made a point, me and Freddy both answered it and then you ignore it. That's because you don't really have any interest in the truth, its all about the wind up. If it wasn't someone so committed to authenticity and what's real like yourself wouldn't ignore it. What the lazy part ? Ok I’m answering. I do believe he kinda is lazy and using oasis as a way of pursuing a solo career, milking it to the max : Noel’s songs, unplugged, bonehead, now knebworth. What next ? I do believe he is lazy because I believe he has more music in him than his owns fans think he has, and that he gave away some of his soul to be back at the top whatever that means. That’s how lazy I think he is, not in the kind of I don’t do nothing all day kinda lazy. Musical laziness. Doing half oasis songs sets that are all Noel’s at his gig ? That will do… great. Why not play wonderwall 3 times the same night. But At least I don’t call anyone an idiot for thinking differently… |
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