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Post by andymorris on Jul 27, 2021 9:39:17 GMT -5
we already got shockwave so what's the point of shockwave 2.0? It didn't age well tbh Shockwave was shit day 1  I doubt Liam will escape the rock n roll format, maybe there will one or two weird / adventurous tracks, but that's it. I dont mind it personally if he stays rock n roll. He doesn't need change, he needs authenticity. Maybe the Covid crisis gave him time to write more. fingers crossed. |
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Post by lg on Jul 27, 2021 9:48:25 GMT -5
we already got shockwave so what's the point of shockwave 2.0? It didn't age well tbh Shockwave was shit day 1 I doubt Liam will escape the rock n roll format, maybe there will one or two weird / adventurous tracks, but that's it. I dont mind it personally if he stays rock n roll. He doesn't need change, he needs authenticity. Maybe the Covid crisis gave him time to write more. fingers crossed. Well then somebody should tell him that there isn't much rock n roll in his albums Easy&safe format sounds better :v |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 27, 2021 12:28:28 GMT -5
It's far too early to say what Liam's next album will sound like. But like I've said before Liam won't go out of his comfort zone especially as it works for him.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 27, 2021 15:18:14 GMT -5
Well if he is going back only in october sounds like the result wasn't that satisfying. Wyatt and Kurstin have 3 months to find better melodies (or steal arrangements from Beatles / Harrison / Lennon records). I smell a rat.  Yeah it’s really shocking that an album might be recorded over different sessions a few months apart! Never happened before. Fuck me 😂 |
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Post by megyesitomate on Jul 27, 2021 21:23:30 GMT -5
It's far too early to say what Liam's next album will sound like. But like I've said before Liam won't go out of his comfort zone especially as it works for him. I think there's still a lot to explore within his comfort zone. For example, he is yet to record a proper heavy track, in terms of production at least. That not only would suit him but the fans would be up for it as well. I'd like to hear a Natural Mystic or Bless You-like tune too, but of course he and his songwriters would have to work super hard not to emberrass themselves with that. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 28, 2021 0:10:48 GMT -5
Well if he is going back only in october sounds like the result wasn't that satisfying. Wyatt and Kurstin have 3 months to find better melodies (or steal arrangements from Beatles / Harrison / Lennon records). I smell a rat. Yeah it’s really shocking that an album might be recorded over different sessions a few months apart! Never happened before. Fuck me 😂 Yeah shocking, something isn't right. Writer's block from 12 different songwriters at the same time, that's a first. I'm worried. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 28, 2021 0:12:32 GMT -5
Shockwave was shit day 1 I doubt Liam will escape the rock n roll format, maybe there will one or two weird / adventurous tracks, but that's it. I dont mind it personally if he stays rock n roll. He doesn't need change, he needs authenticity. Maybe the Covid crisis gave him time to write more. fingers crossed. Well then somebody should tell him that there isn't much rock n roll in his albums Easy&safe format sounds better :v I expect one tune to have at least one guitar in it. Or maybe all of them. And drums, and bass. That's how different it will be. Dont expect a saxophone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 2:22:56 GMT -5
Liam tweets next album will be different and some are already complaining it won't be different enough for them... And we haven't heard anything.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 28, 2021 2:27:19 GMT -5
I think there's still a lot to explore within his comfort zone. Yeah this ^^^^^^^ I find it kind of funny that half the people want a more rock and roll sound, half the people want more branching out from rock and roll -- making Liam seem pretty dead-on for shooting straight down the middle. But he can definitely push the edges of the middle and wind up with a different vibe for #3. Perhaps we'll get more snippets in October, or far better, a new song played at an upcoming gig ... |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 28, 2021 2:34:05 GMT -5
He also said it will be biblical, but we already know it wont be.
I'd settle for a live-feel rock n roll album. The last two were too polished. We new RRAAAWWWW.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 28, 2021 2:43:46 GMT -5
He also said it will be biblical, but we already know it wont be. I'd settle for a live-feel rock n roll album. The last two were too polished. We new RRAAAWWWW. BIBLICAL is in the eye of the beholder; it says so right in the Bible. But I'm very up for a live-feel rock and roll album at some point. Won't be this one, I don't think. |
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Post by lg on Jul 28, 2021 2:48:05 GMT -5
I think there's still a lot to explore within his comfort zone. Yeah this ^^^^^^^ I find it kind of funny that half the people want a more rock and roll sound, half the people want more branching out from rock and roll -- making Liam seem pretty dead-on for shooting straight down the middle. But he can definitely push the edges of the middle and wind up with a different vibe for #3. Perhaps we'll get more snippets in October, or far better, a new song played at an upcoming gig ... I just want him to do something different A rock n roll album would be great too but it has to be a real rock n roll album, ntify ain't rock n roll Despite his tweet and his attitude his album aren't rock n roll/punk rock, they're generic pop rock (with a few exceptions like greedy soul) Don't get me wrong I still love ayw and wmwn but now it's time to evolve a little bit, stepping out his comfort zone And again, I don't think it's going to happen. It takes some balls to change something that it's working in a commercial sense |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 28, 2021 3:21:51 GMT -5
He also said it will be biblical, but we already know it wont be. I'd settle for a live-feel rock n roll album. The last two were too polished. We new RRAAAWWWW. BIBLICAL is in the eye of the beholder; it says so right in the Bible. But I'm very up for a live-feel rock and roll album at some point. Won't be this one, I don't think. It's funny that Liam's favorite word is biblical too. He wears a long dress ( = parka), speaks in a few enigmatic words, and has a cult following. And has risen from musical death. Hmmm... could it be... As for the new record, i heard it will be all his Beady Eye songs re-recorded. They went that way because no one remembers they were released 10 years ago, and this time, people will like them. Smart. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 28, 2021 3:28:07 GMT -5
I just want him to do something different A rock n roll album would be great too but it has to be a real rock n roll album, ntify ain't rock n roll Despite his tweet and his attitude his album aren't rock n roll/punk rock, they're generic pop rock (with a few exceptions like greedy soul) Don't get me wrong I still love ayw and wmwn but now it's time to evolve a little bit, stepping out his comfort zone And again, I don't think it's going to happen. It takes some balls to change something that it's working in a commercial sense Yeah, it takes balls to change something that is working but maybe also he is just happy with where he is at right now. Easy to forget that just a few years ago this very board here had all but written off any musical future for Liam Gallagher at all. He was practically sentenced to B Celebrity Hell. Now he's got a loyal young fan base he feels grateful towards and can fill arenas again and that's pretty much gonna do him. For this moment. He may get more ambitious and daring as he feels less pressure to keep it all going. I'm hopeful too for some evolution and I think there will be some -- he knows as well as anyone out there what the expectations are for a third album after two successes, no?-- but it's likely not going to be the raw and personal album that andynorris wants and it's not going to be electronica. But that doesn't mean a lot of us won't fall in love with a song or three ... or that he won't surprise us in one way or another. Overall, this is a very hard group to HYPE!  |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 28, 2021 3:36:16 GMT -5
It's funny that Liam's favorite word is biblical too. He wears a long dress ( = parka), speaks in a few enigmatic words, and has a cult following. And has risen from musical death. "But He also can turn a barren wilderness into an OASIS .." Psalms 107:35 And so it was prophesied ...  |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 28, 2021 7:15:31 GMT -5
It's funny that Liam's favorite word is biblical too. He wears a long dress ( = parka), speaks in a few enigmatic words, and has a cult following. And has risen from musical death. "But He also can turn a barren wilderness into an OASIS .." Psalms 107:35 And so it was prophesied ... Wow, it all makes sense now. He has returned. He just didn't care to save humanity this time. Was i'm Outta Time really about the Passion ? Born on a different Cloud about being the son of God ? And what aout Pass me Down the Wine.... Mind blown. Better Man, Bring the Light... I Never Wanna Be Like You... Pontius Pilate ? Greedy Soul about the Temple merchants ? Need i go on ? Too many proofs. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 28, 2021 12:47:27 GMT -5
It's far too early to say what Liam's next album will sound like. But like I've said before Liam won't go out of his comfort zone especially as it works for him. I think there's still a lot to explore within his comfort zone. For example, he is yet to record a proper heavy track, in terms of production at least. That not only would suit him but the fans would be up for it as well. I'd like to hear a Natural Mystic or Bless You-like tune too, but of course he and his songwriters would have to work super hard not to emberrass themselves with that. Maybe but I don't know if Liam would ever do anything like a Natural Mystic or Bless You like tune. I can't ever see him coming out of his comfort zone. The songs maybe different as Liam says but I still expect them to be inside his comfort zone. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 29, 2021 0:38:00 GMT -5
I think there's still a lot to explore within his comfort zone. For example, he is yet to record a proper heavy track, in terms of production at least. That not only would suit him but the fans would be up for it as well. I'd like to hear a Natural Mystic or Bless You-like tune too, but of course he and his songwriters would have to work super hard not to emberrass themselves with that. Maybe but I don't know if Liam would ever do anything like a Natural Mystic or Bless You like tune. I can't ever see him coming out of his comfort zone. The songs maybe different as Liam says but I still expect them to be inside his comfort zone. Of course it will be. He's signed a contract with Warner and they got the final say in the musical direction, so there is no way they will let him do space disco rap. It will be like the last two records. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It wont be different, or different as in different songs we have not heard before. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 29, 2021 2:14:13 GMT -5
Of course it will be. He's signed a contract with Warner and they got the final say in the musical direction, so there is no way they will let him do space disco rap. It will be like the last two records. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It wont be different, or different as in different songs we have not heard before. Oh, really??? Seeing as you have a copy of his contract, might as well post it here. Could be fascinating ... p.s. No entertainment lawyer in their right mind would let someone of Liam Gallagher's stature sign a contract ceding all creative control. That's for acts fresh off the boat. I'm willing to bet Liam has a prior approval clause for song selection. Would be truly shocked if he doesn't. Doesn't mean he's going to lay some space disco rap on them. Obviously Liam wants the same that Warner wants--for the records to have really good sales--and obviously, Liam is going to be Liam, but then some of us happen to like that alright. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 29, 2021 3:22:44 GMT -5
Of course it will be. He's signed a contract with Warner and they got the final say in the musical direction, so there is no way they will let him do space disco rap. It will be like the last two records. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It wont be different, or different as in different songs we have not heard before. Oh, really??? Seeing as you have a copy of his contract, might as well post it here. Could be fascinating ... p.s. No entertainment lawyer in their right mind would let someone of Liam Gallagher's stature sign a contract ceding all creative control. That's for acts fresh off the boat. I'm willing to bet Liam has a prior approval clause for song selection. Would be truly shocked if he doesn't. Doesn't mean he's going to lay some space disco rap on them. Obviously Liam wants the same that Warner wants--for the records to have really good sales--and obviously, Liam is going to be Liam, but then some of us happen to like that alright. No, that's not how major companies work. Especially when they come to the rescue to save a failing artist who was willing to do anything to come back to his previous glory. It's their way, they picked who would write for him. but hey, their way fits what Liam wants. So it's all good. They agree on a direction and it won't change. I'm not saying he is in prison or anything, but he clearly doesn't have freedom to do whatever he wants. He has a say. It's pretty different. Songs are recorded and he sings on them. Song selection and sound are two different things. You can make style out of any song. Shockwave could have been disco pop rap if Warner wanted it to be. This is why i'm saying it won't be different, because there is no way Warner will market a "different" Liam Gallagher. It has to be the Liam Gallagher who sings Liam Gallaghers tunes. And we all know what they are : a rocker, a ballad, and a "a bit adventurous" tune for the 3 main singles. The rest can be something else, no one really cares. |
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Post by idleross on Jul 29, 2021 3:26:18 GMT -5
Is this the last record of Liam's current deal with Warner? I think I remember it being written somewhere that he signed for 3 Albums.
What do we think will happen next? Oasis Reunion?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 29, 2021 4:09:57 GMT -5
No, that's not how major companies work. Especially when they come to the rescue to save a failing artist who was willing to do anything to come back to his previous glory. This is a made-up narrative. They didn't "come to his rescue" while he was lying in the gutter out of the goodness of their A&R souls. He brought them some songs that had potential (we know what they were), he was Liam Gallagher, legendary frontman of Oasis, still a household name in an era of fewer and fewer household names, and they put together a deal, as people do, that protected both of their interests should it all fall apart. And happily for most, it didn't all fall apart. Within that deal, creative control was certainly addressed and it can be split several ways, which perhaps you know. I don't know the specifics of his contract and neither do you. But I do know he had a high-paid lawyer, as one does, who fought for him. I've worked with an entertainment lawyer before on contracts and they go to bat for you, I mean really go to bat on every little thing that could affect you in any small way, even if you're super low on the food chain. That's what they learn to do in school. And they know what is standard for artists at a certain level. So I'm still highly skeptical that he ceded all creative control, but let's leave it at we don't know what his contract says. This narrative that he was so desperate he would sign anything and had no leverage at all, though, is pretty out there from my POV. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 29, 2021 4:58:21 GMT -5
No, that's not how major companies work. Especially when they come to the rescue to save a failing artist who was willing to do anything to come back to his previous glory. This is a made-up narrative. They didn't "come to his rescue" while he was lying in the gutter out of the goodness of their A&R souls. He brought them some songs that had potential (we know what they were), he was Liam Gallagher, legendary frontman of Oasis, still a household name in an era of fewer and fewer household names, and they put together a deal, as people do, that protected both of their interests should it all fall apart. And happily for most, it didn't all fall apart. Within that deal, creative control was certainly addressed and it can be split several ways, which perhaps you know. I don't know the specifics of his contract and neither do you. But I do know he had a high-paid lawyer, as one does, who fought for him. I've worked with an entertainment lawyer before on contracts and they go to bat for you, I mean really go to bat on every little thing that could affect you in any small way, even if you're super low on the food chain. That's what they learn to do in school. And they know what is standard for artists at a certain level. So I'm still highly skeptical that he ceded all creative control, but let's leave it at we don't know what his contract says. This narrative that he was so desperate he would sign anything and had no leverage at all, though, is pretty out there from my POV. Andy conflates his own bitterness towards Liam Gallagher with the circumstances of Liam’s solo career. He’s basically a man with a fear of needles that becomes a anti-vaxxer conspiracist. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 29, 2021 12:35:05 GMT -5
I certainly don't want Liam to do disco or rap music and I can't ever imagine him doing that anyway.
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 29, 2021 12:37:31 GMT -5
Is this the last record of Liam's current deal with Warner? I think I remember it being written somewhere that he signed for 3 Albums. What do we think will happen next? Oasis Reunion? I'm not too sure but if it is you never know Warner might decide to sign another contract with Liam if that's the case. |
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