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Post by uboasis on Jun 23, 2022 11:59:45 GMT -5
Never thought it would happen but i am really into Oh Sweet Children...love the sound alot - kind of Elo vs Beatles mash up with an LG backbone sound actually strikes me very much as sounding like a song by The Move, which was the proto ELO but with Roy Wood alongside Jeff Lynne. Well worth checking out if you don't know em
The Move with Wood and Lynne together we're amazing! Early ELO is fantastic as well. I actually pick up subtle references of Nelly Takes Her Bow and Kuiama on CMYK album |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 23, 2022 16:34:46 GMT -5
A great thing with More Power is you don't get the feeling the words are someone else effort. That song is 100% what LG is as an artist in 2022, not even trying to be that great single like Once was. Just one soulful great opening track. Totally agree about it feeling like a Liam solo song. Exactly what i meant when i said he doesn't need to have had all the involvement in writing, it just needs to feel like he has ownership of it and it's a proper addition to his solo work. Wall Of Glass, For What It's Worth, One Of Us, Once, The River, Halo and More Power all do this for me. There are songs like that, that he clearly has enough attachment to to want to sing live again and again and really give them their own life, then there's songs that he's just been given and done little with. There wasn't too many like that on the last album but i feel like there's a lot of this one he will never play. |
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jun 24, 2022 11:07:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know how this is doing sales wise compared to YMYN? Granted it's still early days but these days most albums kick off with a bang then tumble down the charts until they fall out completely.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 24, 2022 12:48:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know how this is doing sales wise compared to YMYN? Granted it's still early days but these days most albums kick off with a bang then tumble down the charts until they fall out completely. I have no idea and I don't even know what number the album is in the charts this week as I don't follow them. But I'm sure someone will know the answer to your question. |
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Post by mancraider on Jun 24, 2022 12:56:56 GMT -5
#26 this week. Time Flies at 20.
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Post by chamu on Jun 24, 2022 13:16:26 GMT -5
Does anyone know how this is doing sales wise compared to YMYN? Granted it's still early days but these days most albums kick off with a bang then tumble down the charts until they fall out completely. After 4 weeks: WMWN ~97k CMYK ~83k The album is fading away quickly on the charts. Zero promotion after release |
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Post by jh on Jun 25, 2022 2:15:43 GMT -5
Its of course easy to read too much into a lyric, they probably just thought it sounded funny. However what I take from that lyric is the sense that a lion (an apex predator) floating in water is completely removed from it natural environment so gives a sense of vulnerability and being lost. Which fits with the song being about a broken down relationship. They are silly and not to much should be read into them..I quite fancy her sister and I think that she likes me....I mean..that's made smile for years and years. Who cares if it makes you enjoy the song |
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Post by walkersafc on Jun 26, 2022 10:55:41 GMT -5
Does anyone know how this is doing sales wise compared to YMYN? Granted it's still early days but these days most albums kick off with a bang then tumble down the charts until they fall out completely. After 4 weeks: WMWN ~97k CMYK ~83k The album is fading away quickly on the charts. Zero promotion after release Little promotion before release and very little promotion after release. I’m personally not a fan of the album and I’m honestly not convinced liam is either. Haven’t really heard him talking it up. Infact, he pretty much said it was made during covid so a bit of a free hit. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he changed songwriters for the next album. This album isn’t what liam is about and he knows it. I’m not trying to wind people up. I realise the album is well liked on here |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 26, 2022 14:44:05 GMT -5
After 4 weeks: WMWN ~97k CMYK ~83k The album is fading away quickly on the charts. Zero promotion after release Little promotion before release and very little promotion after release. I’m personally not a fan of the album and I’m honestly not convinced liam is either. Haven’t really heard him talking it up. Infact, he pretty much said it was made during covid so a bit of a free hit. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he changed songwriters for the next album. This album isn’t what liam is about and he knows it. I’m not trying to wind people up. I realise the album is well liked on here
Bit of a myth that there was no promotion. The entire run-up to Knebworth was the promotion -- and got them the #1 on overall medium sales, so it was a highly effective promotion. Honestly, Liam could hardly have done anything that would have gotten his name splashed all over the UK media more than that. If you live in the UK and don't know Liam has a new album you'd have to not be paying any attention. (Opposite story in the US, where no one I know who isn't already a serious fan could tell you if Liam has an album just out nor what it is called.)
There's a lot of obsession with the numbers in the Oasis fandom--understandable because people want the chart supremacy of the old days to be back. But they're not coming back in that form. Both Noel and Liam are in a great place for these times though. They have strong fandoms and will sell a certain number of records guaranteed. With a truly stellar record that is a critics darling and/or has a runaway hit song, they can push the edges.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 26, 2022 15:57:35 GMT -5
Never heard this song before, it reminded me at More Power.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 26, 2022 16:25:20 GMT -5
Never heard this song before, it reminded me at More Power.
Possibly the weirdest post I have ever seen on this forum, which is saying a lot! 
Never in a million years would have predicted any comparison between Liam Gallagher and The Roches.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 26, 2022 16:34:36 GMT -5
But it is true 🤣
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 26, 2022 17:57:23 GMT -5
Little promotion before release and very little promotion after release. I’m personally not a fan of the album and I’m honestly not convinced liam is either. Haven’t really heard him talking it up. Infact, he pretty much said it was made during covid so a bit of a free hit. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he changed songwriters for the next album. This album isn’t what liam is about and he knows it. I’m not trying to wind people up. I realise the album is well liked on here
Bit of a myth that there was no promotion. The entire run-up to Knebworth was the promotion -- and got them the #1 on overall medium sales, so it was a highly effective promotion. Honestly, Liam could hardly have done anything that would have gotten his name splashed all over the UK media more than that. If you live in the UK and don't know Liam has a new album you'd have to not be paying any attention. (Opposite story in the US, where no one I know who isn't already a serious fan could tell you if Liam has an album just out nor what it is called.)
There's a lot of obsession with the numbers in the Oasis fandom--understandable because people want the chart supremacy of the old days to be back. But they're not coming back in that form. Both Noel and Liam are in a great place for these times though. They have strong fandoms and will sell a certain number of records guaranteed. With a truly stellar record that is a critics darling and/or has a runaway hit song, they can push the edges.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 28, 2022 12:13:44 GMT -5
Also, don't forget the TV appearances Liam did before the album was released, Jools Holland and the Rockfield Studios documentary.
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Post by jh on Jun 29, 2022 0:25:21 GMT -5
Bit of a myth that there was no promotion. The entire run-up to Knebworth was the promotion -- and got them the #1 on overall medium sales, so it was a highly effective promotion. Honestly, Liam could hardly have done anything that would have gotten his name splashed all over the UK media more than that. If you live in the UK and don't know Liam has a new album you'd have to not be paying any attention. (Opposite story in the US, where no one I know who isn't already a serious fan could tell you if Liam has an album just out nor what it is called.)
There's a lot of obsession with the numbers in the Oasis fandom--understandable because people want the chart supremacy of the old days to be back. But they're not coming back in that form. Both Noel and Liam are in a great place for these times though. They have strong fandoms and will sell a certain number of records guaranteed. With a truly stellar record that is a critics darling and/or has a runaway hit song, they can push the edges.
Agreed. He got another number 1 under his belt. Case closed surely. What do the figures mean really... think of the multitudes of peeps who may have streamed it, downloaded it or copied it who may love it...yet not included in the deluge of industry crap. Most interesting comments I've heard are from friends who have heard some tunes and said...oh thats good..is that Liam..wow..I prefer how he sounds on this etc |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 29, 2022 3:31:02 GMT -5
He got another number 1 under his belt. Case closed surely. What do the figures mean really... think of the multitudes of peeps who may have streamed it, downloaded it or copied it who may love it...yet not included in the deluge of industry crap. Most interesting comments I've heard are from friends who have heard some tunes and said...oh thats good..is that Liam..wow..I prefer how he sounds on this etc Streams and downloads are both included in modern sales charts so that stuff isn’t getting missed. But yeah, it's a whole new world and can't be compared one-to-one with the old sales charts.
As for what the numbers mean anymore, it depends on who you’re asking! Other than calculating album-based income (which only Liam and his trusty writers' militia need worry about), they can give the record label a sense of whether the audience is expanding or shrinking, whether the "direction" is working, etc. (if you're a person who thinks about things that way and some do). Money and marketing shit basically.
For fans, as someone said, it’s more about bragging rights. Cool to get the #1 for a week, even cooler to hold it. But that's getting harder and harder so doesn't makes sense to get too wrapped up in it. (Plus greatness and sales have never been less linked in the music business.) Sure, streaming can theoretically expose a wider span of people to your music, but the downside is that the days of a big radio hit driving album sales because everyone in the country is hearing it everywhere they go are over. Still, as mentioned, Noel and Liam are well positioned to make out just fine in this new world. if you have a significant, fiercely loyal fanbase who will purchase your LP unheard just for the chance to see your live show, which Liam does, then honestly you're already winning the game.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 29, 2022 12:27:20 GMT -5
He got another number 1 under his belt. Case closed surely. What do the figures mean really... think of the multitudes of peeps who may have streamed it, downloaded it or copied it who may love it...yet not included in the deluge of industry crap. Most interesting comments I've heard are from friends who have heard some tunes and said...oh thats good..is that Liam..wow..I prefer how he sounds on this etc Yeah, he's got another number one album under his belt. And, I don't think that the album has done that badly at all considering the way the charts work these days. |
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 29, 2022 21:27:48 GMT -5
Does anyone think this would be a far more superior album?
C'mon You Know Track listing
1. More Power
2. Diamond In The Dark
3. Everything's Electric
4. Nothing Nowhere
5. Too Good For Giving Up
6. World's In Need
7. C'mon You Know
8. Don't Go Halfway
9. Moscow Rules
10. Oh Sweet Children
11. The Joker
12. Better Days
I think 'I'm Free' is a piece of shit, one of the worst songs Liam's ever put out. While 'The Wave' & 'It's Not Meant To Be' are alright but not good enough to make the album.
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Post by theunderclass on Jun 30, 2022 7:01:28 GMT -5
I honestly can’t imagine Everything’s Electric being followed by More Power! MP is the perfect album opener imo.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 30, 2022 12:46:25 GMT -5
No, I love the track listing as it is and I wouldn't change it for anything.
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Post by tezza198 on Jul 1, 2022 1:29:33 GMT -5
I honestly can’t imagine Everything’s Electric being followed by More Power! MP is the perfect album opener imo. Actually yeah, more power followed by everything’s electric but the rest stands. |
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Post by Jim on Jul 1, 2022 1:33:57 GMT -5
I hope there is more to come from the RAK sessions after we heard Everything’s Electric.
After listening to the album I’d like to hear More Power, Better Days and Diamond In The Dark.
And I reckon I’m Free would greatly benefit with the live band feel.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jul 1, 2022 1:39:48 GMT -5
It’s weird but I haven’t felt inclined to listen to the album at all since the initial couple of weeks after release. Obviously nothing really grabbed me beyond the first two singles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 5:45:10 GMT -5
I hope there is more to come from the RAK sessions after we heard Everything’s Electric. After listening to the album I’d like to hear More Power, Better Days and Diamond In The Dark. And I reckon I’m Free would greatly benefit with the live band feel.
agreed apart from 'I'm Free'... the only thing that would benefit from is never having to hear it again  |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 1, 2022 12:39:41 GMT -5
I hope there is more to come from the RAK sessions after we heard Everything’s Electric. After listening to the album I’d like to hear More Power, Better Days and Diamond In The Dark. And I reckon I’m Free would greatly benefit with the live band feel. Agreed. And, I would also love to hear World’s In Need too |
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