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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2019 12:40:42 GMT -5
Yeah I agree, he's not gonna suddenly drop everything and change style. I just find it hard to believe Noel doesn't miss the madness of Oasis crowds when in comparison NGHFB ones are fairly tame He's 52. Most of the people who were being 'mad' at Oasis gigs 15-20 years ago are now in their 40s and are the weirdos that ruin gigs in all honesty. I went to the Stone Roses gigs at the Etihad a few years ago and it was just a load of bald 50+s dropping their first E in 20 years. Not fun. Noel's crowds are getting younger, as are Liam's. The fanbase is getting younger but people aren't as arsed about being 'mad' now. Most people have thankfully grown up as the band have. Don't get me wrong I understand that, but I'm just saying that every now and then Noel must crave a really high-energy crowd these days in places other than Japan and South Korea, which I consider exceptions to the pattern
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Post by pliolite on Aug 30, 2019 14:45:57 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it Does anyone else just not like how Zak Starkey drums on RNRS there? Especially the verse, wtf, get some bloody energy into it! Chris Sharrock is the best drummer they ever had and they didn't have him long enough! Obviously he's in NGHFB but whatever.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 30, 2019 15:13:33 GMT -5
I think he's also said he's aware he'll never be a stadium act. Sure I read or heard an interview recently where he said the U2 support gigs proved it. He was like, 'that's what we can do', but that's it. I can't see him filling huge stadiums either, I just reckon he misses having intense crowds. If I were him I'd hate that people were disinterested in my new material, and I highly doubt he doesn't think the same way at least sometimes I've been to four gigs on the Moon tour. At none of them were people disinterested in the new tunes. A few, maybe, but only at the start of the arena tour in the UK last May. The rest have all been well up for it for every song.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 30, 2019 15:15:06 GMT -5
He's 52. Most of the people who were being 'mad' at Oasis gigs 15-20 years ago are now in their 40s and are the weirdos that ruin gigs in all honesty. I went to the Stone Roses gigs at the Etihad a few years ago and it was just a load of bald 50+s dropping their first E in 20 years. Not fun. Noel's crowds are getting younger, as are Liam's. The fanbase is getting younger but people aren't as arsed about being 'mad' now. Most people have thankfully grown up as the band have. Don't get me wrong I understand that, but I'm just saying that every now and then Noel must crave a really high-energy crowd these days in places other than Japan and South Korea, which I consider exceptions to the pattern As I've said, every NG gig I've been to since last May has been high energy. Tramlines and then Dublin this year were the most boyant NG gigs I've been to (and the crowd by far the youngest I've been to at an NG gig too). It wasn't Finsbury, where at least half the people were absolutely fucked (including me) but it doesn't need to be.
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Post by slush on Aug 30, 2019 19:48:37 GMT -5
He is experiencing a backlash. Though I still love Holy Mountain but everything else is kind of true.
The frustrating part is that he doesn’t see that he can literally write these exact same songs and have Liam sing them and 10x more people will listen to them. Apple doesn’t release a phone under a different company name. It’s just obvious!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2019 20:28:07 GMT -5
He is experiencing a backlash. Though I still love Holy Mountain but everything else is kind of true. The frustrating part is that he doesn’t see that he can literally write these exact same songs and have Liam sing them and 10x more people will listen to them. Apple doesn’t release a phone under a different company name. It’s just obvious! Man the last 10 years were probably rough for you and the next handful will probably be the same. What backlash? Have the reviews not been good from the media? Are people not buying the album? Did Noel just not have his longest charting song in Holy Mountain? Are people not going to his gigs? I fail to see a backlash other than a few threads on this forum from a few members. That’s hardly scientific.
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 31, 2019 12:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Aug 31, 2019 14:08:20 GMT -5
I want songs that are at least as good as ‘If I Had A Gun...’ and ‘The Dying Of The Light’... they don’t have to be cut from that cloth. I want melody. I don’t care what ‘direction’ he goes just don’t forget about the song. Which IMO, he has. Please god no.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 31, 2019 14:15:06 GMT -5
I don’t think people know what the word “backlash” means on this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 14:39:49 GMT -5
Daft meaningless lyrics aside, This Is The Place just keeps getting better for me.
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Post by mossy on Aug 31, 2019 14:44:06 GMT -5
Daft meaningless lyrics aside, This Is The Place just keeps getting better for me. They’re stolen but the lyrics definitely have meaning... X
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 31, 2019 14:48:54 GMT -5
Daft meaningless lyrics aside, This Is The Place just keeps getting better for me. They’re stolen but the lyrics definitely have meaning... X Noel should definitely have done a video based around Manchester/Madchester to go with this song. It was a swish waiting to happen.
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Post by vespa on Aug 31, 2019 19:21:00 GMT -5
His new stuffs far superior to who built the moon , play them loud they sound fantastic ..but to think Noel will never play the cigs n alc riff or acquiesce riff ever again is quite frankly madness ..ofcourse he misses that , you can tell at some gigs , it’s funny how russ always goes mad when playing the new stuff , like overly enthusiastic to prove they all love it ..
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 31, 2019 19:59:04 GMT -5
In other news, I planted a Viagra and I’m going to tell you how my garden grows. 😉
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Post by mossy on Sept 1, 2019 6:37:35 GMT -5
His new stuffs far superior to who built the moon , play them loud they sound fantastic ..but to think Noel will never play the cigs n alc riff or acquiesce riff ever again is quite frankly madness ..ofcourse he misses that , you can tell at some gigs , it’s funny how russ always goes mad when playing the new stuff , like overly enthusiastic to prove they all love it .. It would be an absolute piece of piss for Noel to play Cigs & Alcohol or Acquiesce if he really wanted to... given he’s been solo for nearly a decade now, maybe he’s perfectly happy with his setlists and their reactions? X
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 11:13:25 GMT -5
Daft meaningless lyrics aside, This Is The Place just keeps getting better for me. They’re stolen but the lyrics definitely have meaning... X The poem that fella wrote certainly has meaning, but to me, Noel’s lyrics are empty. The verses don’t mean anything, and the chorus is generic and shallow.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 1, 2019 11:21:54 GMT -5
His new stuffs far superior to who built the moon , play them loud they sound fantastic ..but to think Noel will never play the cigs n alc riff or acquiesce riff ever again is quite frankly madness ..ofcourse he misses that , you can tell at some gigs , it’s funny how russ always goes mad when playing the new stuff , like overly enthusiastic to prove they all love it .. It would be an absolute piece of piss for Noel to play Cigs & Alcohol or Acquiesce if he really wanted to... given he’s been solo for nearly a decade now, maybe he’s perfectly happy with his setlists and their reactions? X Why are people so stuck in the past? These are artists who want to create and challenge themselves. Why would they want to keep just playing the same songs from 25 years ago? That would be rather boring. Time marches on fellas. March with it.
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 1, 2019 12:56:14 GMT -5
It's his dance routine that I can't get past. Noel Gallagher has a fucking dance routine! I was in Italy the past week and happened to see a bit of X Factor and it brought back memories of that performance he did of Holy Mountain. Possibly the most embarrassed I've been for Noel or Liam. beady eye on x factor is even worse. but i have to admit that seeing will.i.am. shaking his head in rhythm to "shake my tree wheres the apple for me" is pretty hilarious
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Post by philko87 on Sept 1, 2019 16:44:17 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Sept 1, 2019 17:16:54 GMT -5
They’re stolen but the lyrics definitely have meaning... X The poem that fella wrote certainly has meaning, but to me, Noel’s lyrics are empty. The verses don’t mean anything, and the chorus is generic and shallow.We’re talking here about a man whose best songs include verses with meaningful lines like “she done it with a doctor, on a helicopter” and deep choruses such as “give me gin and tonic.” X
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 1, 2019 18:19:58 GMT -5
His new stuffs far superior to who built the moon , play them loud they sound fantastic ..but to think Noel will never play the cigs n alc riff or acquiesce riff ever again is quite frankly madness ..ofcourse he misses that , you can tell at some gigs , it’s funny how russ always goes mad when playing the new stuff , like overly enthusiastic to prove they all love it .. It would be an absolute piece of piss for Noel to play Cigs & Alcohol or Acquiesce if he really wanted to... given he’s been solo for nearly a decade now, maybe he’s perfectly happy with his setlists and their reactions? X He could play them sure, they'd be shite but he could. Even Noel understands that himself which is exactly why he hasn't. Its naive to think otherwise. He's happy with his setlists, he picks them and he picks the songs that he likes and suit him best.
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Post by oneofus on Sept 1, 2019 18:48:37 GMT -5
Noel has hit embarrassing and childish levels. Especially with his recent foo fighters comments
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 1, 2019 18:51:19 GMT -5
Noel has hit embarrassing and childish levels. Especially with his recent foo fighters comments If you watch the clip you do realize it’s a joke line right? Noel has always been sarcastic as hell and this was no different. People really gotta dig into the context of a lot of gallagher brother statements.
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Post by oneofus on Sept 1, 2019 19:13:22 GMT -5
I think he said that Dave Grohl should come on stage and suck his di*k. That's a bit messed up if you ask me. Very childish for a 52 year old Noel has hit embarrassing and childish levels. Especially with his recent foo fighters comments If you watch the clip you do realize it’s a joke line right? Noel has always been sarcastic as hell and this was no different. People really gotta dig into the context of a lot of gallagher brother statements.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 1, 2019 20:16:10 GMT -5
I think he said that Dave Grohl should come on stage and suck his di*k. That's a bit messed up if you ask me. Very childish for a 52 year old If you watch the clip you do realize it’s a joke line right? Noel has always been sarcastic as hell and this was no different. People really gotta dig into the context of a lot of gallagher brother statements. See my prior post about being a joke.
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