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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 25, 2019 11:15:39 GMT -5
The only songs I like since Chasing Yesterday are: Dead in the Water God Help Us All Sail On The only people I hate on this forum is: You End of list. |
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Post by bmore007 on Aug 25, 2019 11:43:39 GMT -5
My 62 year old Mom loves his new stuff
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Post by LlAM on Aug 25, 2019 12:10:28 GMT -5
My 62 year old Mom loves his new stuff My mum's all time favourite Oasis song was Sunday Morning Call. She's got Alzheimer's now so she can't comprehend such niceties as music unfortunately, but I'd take a guess and say she would've liked 4 tracks off Who Built The Moon plus the three songs from the Black Star Dancing EP, especially Sail On, bless her 😊 |
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Post by mossy on Aug 25, 2019 18:20:21 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is his best solo album imo its not even close. First one is over produced and the last record is too out there. I love when people say MOON was experimental or “too out there”. It’s a very direct record. Modern sounding is about the only grand departure for Noel on that go around. Now if the AA album ever came out, then yes. That might be cosmic and far out and challenging for Oasis dudes and dudettes. I can only deduce that anyone who thinks WBTM is out there has a tiny record collection. X |
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 25, 2019 18:45:06 GMT -5
There's a big difference between "experimental" and "experimental for Noel Gallagher".
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Post by sjc8 on Aug 25, 2019 20:31:53 GMT -5
I saw Noel a couple of nights ago with Smashing Pumpkins, to be honest, Smashing Pumpkins blew him out of the water in every way. I have a feeling that after this tour, he may be more open to considering an Oasis reunion. I think if the brothers were to incorporate some of their best new material into a live show, they both might find some common ground. I don’t care what Noel says about loving playing his new stuff for himself, somewhere deep down, he’s gotta hate not having the reception he once had from his fans. The crowds went absolutely nuts for Smashing Pumpkins right after he left the stage, and this was a city that really showed up for Noel. Something tells me that he must really hate being upstaged by “wild Billy Corgan.” be careful giving an honest assessment such as this. you are liable to be accused of being a "liam fanboy". or wait a couple replies for the "its all about the music" or "noel's always been a dick, blah, blah". the pumpkins were so much better it wasnt even close. |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Aug 25, 2019 22:28:29 GMT -5
I saw Noel a couple of nights ago with Smashing Pumpkins, to be honest, Smashing Pumpkins blew him out of the water in every way. I have a feeling that after this tour, he may be more open to considering an Oasis reunion. I think if the brothers were to incorporate some of their best new material into a live show, they both might find some common ground. I don’t care what Noel says about loving playing his new stuff for himself, somewhere deep down, he’s gotta hate not having the reception he once had from his fans. The crowds went absolutely nuts for Smashing Pumpkins right after he left the stage, and this was a city that really showed up for Noel. Something tells me that he must really hate being upstaged by “wild Billy Corgan.” be careful giving an honest assessment such as this. you are liable to be accused of being a "liam fanboy". or wait a couple replies for the "its all about the music" or "noel's always been a dick, blah, blah". the pumpkins were so much better it wasnt even close. the same stuff gets repeated, because the point being made is constantly repeated...you want a different response, then different comments need to be posted.
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Post by Manualex on Aug 25, 2019 23:08:58 GMT -5
be careful giving an honest assessment such as this. you are liable to be accused of being a "liam fanboy". or wait a couple replies for the "its all about the music" or "noel's always been a dick, blah, blah". the pumpkins were so much better it wasnt even close. the same stuff gets repeated, because the point being made is constantly repeated...you want a different response, then different comments need to be posted.
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Post by oneofus on Aug 26, 2019 2:00:57 GMT -5
Ya not many for me either since CY The only songs I like since Chasing Yesterday are: Dead in the Water God Help Us All Sail On |
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Post by Marissa on Aug 26, 2019 17:38:29 GMT -5
Ya not many for me either since CY The only songs I like since Chasing Yesterday are: Dead in the Water God Help Us All Sail On i'd say it's about the same list for me except i do like rattling rose |
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Post by walrus91 on Aug 29, 2019 15:16:02 GMT -5
So, is the consensus among Oasis fans that he's shit until he goes back to what he is know for, or is it because of the whole Noel / Liam divide, with fans being more favourable towards Liam? i don't need noel to put out the same song he's wrote 150 times in the last 3 decades. and i really want absolutely nothing to do with liam. i just don't particularly care for the new direction. i don't think it's executed well. i like musical growth as a concept. Noel has shown no growth.. Boring lazy songs that he tries to over produce. His voice is bland in the mix. His songs sound like someone who just started writing would come up but he has big name people mix them and producing them.. strip away the production these songs are bad . Real bad. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2019 17:47:20 GMT -5
i don't need noel to put out the same song he's wrote 150 times in the last 3 decades. and i really want absolutely nothing to do with liam. i just don't particularly care for the new direction. i don't think it's executed well. i like musical growth as a concept. Noel has shown no growth.. Boring lazy songs that he tries to over produce. His voice is bland in the mix. His songs sound like someone who just started writing would come up but he has big name people mix them and producing them.. strip away the production these songs are bad . Real bad. No growth? Not making another album like HFB and CY is growth. It would be boring for Noel to keep writing songs like If I Had A Gun or Dying of the Light or Dead In The Water. That’s all been done to death by Noel. Over and over. Decades and decades. He finally sounds modern which is what so many of us said of this forum 12-17 years ago. Noel is certainly in interesting times for himself musically. You might not like it but it’s def not from being in his status quo mode. I wouldn’t say any of his post 2015 material has been over produced. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 30, 2019 4:38:25 GMT -5
I want songs that are at least as good as ‘If I Had A Gun...’ and ‘The Dying Of The Light’... they don’t have to be cut from that cloth. I want melody. I don’t care what ‘direction’ he goes just don’t forget about the song. Which IMO, he has.
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2019 8:21:34 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it
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Post by LlAM on Aug 30, 2019 9:43:03 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing..... I somewhat agree with you, but on the other hand I don't think Noel would be releasing WBTM, these EPs or playing the new songs live unless he was 110% comfortable with it. I reckon it's well calculated from his behalf that he's doing this at this point in his career; he's got enough in his back catalogue and enough "stamina" (can't find the right word) as an artist to make the music that he enjoys ("The first part of the gig is for me, the second part is for you"). I definitely think he misses the biblical reception he once got, but I also think he appreciates that he's been there and now has a one in a lifetime chance to break out of the "Oasis formula" without it having an affect on his past success. That's my take anyway. |
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Post by glider on Aug 30, 2019 9:57:23 GMT -5
Noel's next album will be his All You Can't Leave Behind. |
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Post by martinpaul on Aug 30, 2019 11:00:08 GMT -5
Noel has shown no growth.. Boring lazy songs that he tries to over produce. His voice is bland in the mix. His songs sound like someone who just started writing would come up but he has big name people mix them and producing them.. strip away the production these songs are bad . Real bad. No growth? Not making another album like HFB and CY is growth. It would be boring for Noel to keep writing songs like If I Had A Gun or Dying of the Light or Dead In The Water. That’s all been done to death by Noel. Over and over. Decades and decades. He finally sounds modern which is what so many of us said of this forum 12-17 years ago. Noel is certainly in interesting times for himself musically. You might not like it but it’s def not from being in his status quo mode. I wouldn’t say any of his post 2015 material has been over produced. Noel doesn't sound modern, not a chance. Different? yes. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 30, 2019 11:07:59 GMT -5
No growth? Not making another album like HFB and CY is growth. It would be boring for Noel to keep writing songs like If I Had A Gun or Dying of the Light or Dead In The Water. That’s all been done to death by Noel. Over and over. Decades and decades. He finally sounds modern which is what so many of us said of this forum 12-17 years ago. Noel is certainly in interesting times for himself musically. You might not like it but it’s def not from being in his status quo mode. I wouldn’t say any of his post 2015 material has been over produced. Noel doesn't sound modern, not a chance. Different? yes. I’m not sure how you can say the production of his songs don’t sound modern compared to his previous releases. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 30, 2019 11:10:18 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it I think he's said on multiple occasions that he loves the feeling and atmosphere of big stadium gigs. He might miss it but I don't think he's willing to change his direction to make it more likely. Which is fair enough. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Aug 30, 2019 11:28:04 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it I like that he does not do what people expect. I highly respect this although there are songs I don't get into I love that he just does not become his own tribute act playimg greatest hits cause people wouldmenjoymit. I think Oasis fans who just go apeshit for the first two records and are not willing to open up for new directions should just listen to "stop the clocks" best of. |
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2019 12:32:26 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it I think he's said on multiple occasions that he loves the feeling and atmosphere of big stadium gigs. He might miss it but I don't think he's willing to change his direction to make it more likely. Which is fair enough. Yeah I agree, he's not gonna suddenly drop everything and change style. I just find it hard to believe Noel doesn't miss the madness of Oasis crowds when in comparison NGHFB ones are fairly tame |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 30, 2019 12:34:30 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it I think he's said on multiple occasions that he loves the feeling and atmosphere of big stadium gigs. He might miss it but I don't think he's willing to change his direction to make it more likely. Which is fair enough. I think he's also said he's aware he'll never be a stadium act. Sure I read or heard an interview recently where he said the U2 support gigs proved it. He was like, 'that's what we can do', but that's it. |
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2019 12:36:23 GMT -5
Ok so before anyone slates me for this on here I wanna make it clear - I really enjoy the new NGHFB stuff and always have. However, I can't help but at least partially agree with what someone said on here about Noel not recieving the reaction he used to (I can't remember who said it, my apologies). When I last saw Noel live in Cardiff a few months back, I couldn't help but almost cringe slightly when the new WBTM stuff was being played, as well as Black Star Dancing. The crowd, at least from where I was, wasn't into it whatsoever and everyone looked highly disinterested apart from a select few fans at the front or the odd few people scattered around the crowd. I couldn't help but feel sad for Noel because it was obvious that he himself was enjoying what he was doing, but nobody else around him cared a jot. The only times the crowd really got into it was either when songs from the debut album were played or the Oasis songs obviously, and if I were Noel I really wouldn't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's great that Noel seems to enjoy himself but the fact that the crowd's just not with him a lot of the time must seriously kill his vibe, and it frankly creates a really uncomfortable atmosphere for those people who are actually there to hear the new stuff and not just old Oasis stuff. I don't agree at all that he'd consider an Oasis reunion because of this, but surely he'd be lying to himself if he maintained that he doesn't miss old Oasis crowd reactions, Barrowlands or Etihad 2005 being prime examples. I mean, just look at this and try and tell me he doesn't crave this deep down, he's just far too stubborn/proud to admit it I like that he does not do what people expect. I highly respect this although there are songs I don't get into I love that he just does not become his own tribute act playimg greatest hits cause people wouldmenjoymit. I think Oasis fans who just go apeshit for the first two records and are not willing to open up for new directions should just listen to "stop the clocks" best of. I'm also glad he's doing his own thing! I was mainly talking about the crowd's reaction to solo material though, you mentioned how they go apeshit for early Oasis songs and not much else. I disagree with that I have to say cos Little By Little and The Importance Of Being Idle had a brilliant reaction at the gig I went to (as always) |
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Post by bt95 on Aug 30, 2019 12:36:39 GMT -5
I think he's said on multiple occasions that he loves the feeling and atmosphere of big stadium gigs. He might miss it but I don't think he's willing to change his direction to make it more likely. Which is fair enough. Yeah I agree, he's not gonna suddenly drop everything and change style. I just find it hard to believe Noel doesn't miss the madness of Oasis crowds when in comparison NGHFB ones are fairly tame He's 52. Most of the people who were being 'mad' at Oasis gigs 15-20 years ago are now in their 40s and are the weirdos that ruin gigs in all honesty. I went to the Stone Roses gigs at the Etihad a few years ago and it was just a load of bald 50+s dropping their first E in 20 years. Not fun. Noel's crowds are getting younger, as are Liam's. The fanbase is getting younger but people aren't as arsed about being 'mad' now. Most people have thankfully grown up as the band have. |
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Post by Sadie on Aug 30, 2019 12:38:50 GMT -5
I think he's said on multiple occasions that he loves the feeling and atmosphere of big stadium gigs. He might miss it but I don't think he's willing to change his direction to make it more likely. Which is fair enough. I think he's also said he's aware he'll never be a stadium act. Sure I read or heard an interview recently where he said the U2 support gigs proved it. He was like, 'that's what we can do', but that's it. I can't see him filling huge stadiums either, I just reckon he misses having intense crowds. If I were him I'd hate that people were disinterested in my new material, and I highly doubt he doesn't think the same way at least sometimes |
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