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Post by walterglass on Aug 5, 2019 21:52:54 GMT -5
It’s derivative yet a left-turn. Simple and modern. Orthodox but...blah blah.
It’s forgettable.
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Post by oasismashups on Aug 5, 2019 21:53:44 GMT -5
I liked it. I bet it'll sound massive live.
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Post by northernsky on Aug 5, 2019 22:13:45 GMT -5
7 for me. Not mind blowing but definitely find it more infectious than anything from the BSD ep.
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Madferrit Fan
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Post by theone on Aug 5, 2019 22:21:52 GMT -5
I like the song but something about the production I don't quite like... Then I saw Sardy produced it and that explains it.
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Post by venoasis on Aug 5, 2019 22:25:25 GMT -5
meh... 4.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 5, 2019 22:36:39 GMT -5
Update: I was wrong. I just played this track through a very high quality set of surround sound speakers in my car, and holy shit. It feels like you’re traveling through space and time.
It sounded a lot less impressive through my dinky computer speakers earlier...play this track in a loud, empty room and you’ll hear just how expansive it is.
This song could fit well in a sci-fi movie soundtrack. Upon further review, This is the Place is every bit as epic as some of Noel Gallagher’s earlier work, it just doesn’t use the same formula we are all used to. And you know what, that’s a good thing.
9/10
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Post by andymorris on Aug 6, 2019 2:17:34 GMT -5
Update: I was wrong. I just played this track through a very high quality set of surround sound speakers in my car, and holy shit. It feels like you’re traveling through space and time. It sounded a lot less impressive through my dinky computer speakers earlier...play this track in a loud, empty room and you’ll hear just how expansive it is. This song could fit well in a sci-fi movie soundtrack. Upon further review, This is the Place is every bit as epic as some of Noel Gallagher’s earlier work, it just doesn’t use the same formula we are all used to. And you know what, that’s a good thing. 9/10 agree. Once the novelty is out, it's really more like a companion to What a Life really, it's not that out there. Just that there is no guitar, so that can be a bit weird at first. It's grown on me too.
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Post by mossy on Aug 6, 2019 5:08:06 GMT -5
I like the song but something about the production I don't quite like... Then I saw Sardy produced it and that explains it. You got a link for that? Pretty sure Sardy had nothing to do with this tune. X
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Post by bathqueen1 on Aug 6, 2019 5:35:12 GMT -5
Trying to make this come off as "a new direction" or "experiment inspired by david holmes" is embarrasing. The less Noel can come up with the melody, the more he hides it with rich production - Some Might Say = zero prodution, 100% tune. whatever this forgetable tune is called = 100% production, zero tune. BTW - whoever claims this is better than "Once" - im sorry, Music has a universal truth to it. just go and count the chords, go and figure out the notes. Once is musically superior to this Garageband made FiFa background music. I know lots of people on here are getting their rocks off to it, but I think Once is pretty rubbish - songs about swimming pool hygiene just don’t do it for me. X My post was 100% about the music - melody & production. nothing about lyrics level, so i dont see why that is where you take your argument from. basicly giving attention to the lyrics when its Oasis related - kinda unnecesary IMO. SMS is completle nonsense lyricly, but killer tune.
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Post by mossy on Aug 6, 2019 5:37:45 GMT -5
I know lots of people on here are getting their rocks off to it, but I think Once is pretty rubbish - songs about swimming pool hygiene just don’t do it for me. X My post was 100% about the music - melody & production. nothing about lyrics level, so i dont see why that is where you take your argument from. basicly giving attention to the lyrics when its Oasis related - kinda unnecesary IMO. SMS is completle nonsense lyricly, but killer tune. I find the music boring too. That’s just my own personal opinion of course, but you don’t find me in the Liam threads calling people fools for liking it or claiming it’s a universal truth that any Noel song is better. X
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Post by bathqueen1 on Aug 6, 2019 5:39:06 GMT -5
Trying to make this come off as "a new direction" or "experiment inspired by david holmes" is embarrasing. The less Noel can come up with the melody, the more he hides it with rich production - Some Might Say = zero prodution, 100% tune. whatever this forgetable tune is called = 100% production, zero tune. BTW - whoever claims this is better than "Once" - im sorry, Music has a universal truth to it. just go and count the chords, go and figure out the notes. Once is musically superior to this Garageband made FiFa background music. Well you must really hate Songbird. So what is this universal truth to music, perhaps you could let us all in on it? Colombia has 3 chords and it's one of Oasis' greatest songs. You actually think you personally above everyone else get to define what is musically superior? That's some god complex. I don't think I've ever read anything as ridicous as an Oasis fan asking people to count chords to prove how good a song is. Jesus wept. i think it would be best if you could answer yourself. so heres a simple question - which song is better and why - "Listen Up" or "Probably All In The Mind"? after honestly answering this, replace those 2 titles with Once & This Is The Place. thats it.
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Wolf
Oasis Roadie
YOU DON'T LIKE BEETHOVEN
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Post by Wolf on Aug 6, 2019 6:33:08 GMT -5
I've never seen this forum so polarized, just in general. It really is the battle of the brothers.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 6, 2019 6:35:47 GMT -5
I've never seen this forum so polarized, just in general. It really is the battle of the brothers. Oh no way. This forum has seen much much worse. Huge flame wars of 2010-2011. This place was so toxic a bunch of core members left and started another forum. But I think even that utopia faltered. It’s always like this around release time. Especially if both brothers are dropping material.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 6, 2019 6:46:24 GMT -5
Well you must really hate Songbird. So what is this universal truth to music, perhaps you could let us all in on it? Colombia has 3 chords and it's one of Oasis' greatest songs. You actually think you personally above everyone else get to define what is musically superior? That's some god complex. I don't think I've ever read anything as ridicous as an Oasis fan asking people to count chords to prove how good a song is. Jesus wept. i think it would be best if you could answer yourself. so heres a simple question - which song is better and why - "Listen Up" or "Probably All In The Mind"? after honestly answering this, replace those 2 titles with Once & This Is The Place. thats it. Here’s the problem, I think, with what you’re doing. You’re comparing 2 things that don’t actually invite comparison. It’s like asking, what song is better and why...”Listen Up” or “Beethoven’s 5th Concerto” or “No Woman No Cry” by Bob Marley? Where do you even begin with that? The style, structure, and feel of songs are completely different, and they should be judged independently within the context of what each song is trying to do. This is the Place is really an impressive piece of music. There are some interesting creative choices in it, and when all of the individual pieces come together on the track, it manages to “soar” to the same heights as a traditional Noel Gallagher anthem, but without having the traditional Noel Gallagher chorus. It seems to me that you have a narrow definition of what makes a good song and thinner music taste, and that is perfectly fine. You shouldn’t be judged for that. But if you look at every song as a pizza, you will rate songs as how well they conform to that known structure in your head of a pizza. If you start looking at them as different kinds of food...tacos and sushi and ice cream, you will find that you appreciate those songs for entirely different reasons.
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Post by mossy on Aug 6, 2019 6:54:42 GMT -5
i think it would be best if you could answer yourself. so heres a simple question - which song is better and why - "Listen Up" or "Probably All In The Mind"? after honestly answering this, replace those 2 titles with Once & This Is The Place. thats it. Here’s the problem, I think, with what you’re doing. You’re comparing 2 things that don’t actually invite comparison. It’s like asking, what song is better and why...”Listen Up” or “Beethoven’s 5th Concerto” or “No Woman No Cry” by Bob Marley? Where do you even begin with that? The style, structure, and feel of songs are completely different, and they should be judged independently within the context of what each song is trying to do. This is the Place is really an impressive piece of music. There are some interesting creative choices in it, and when all of the individual pieces come together on the track, it manages to “soar” to the same heights as a traditional Noel Gallagher anthem, but without having the traditional Noel Gallagher chorus. It seems to me that you have a narrow definition of what makes a good song and thinner music taste, and that is perfectly fine. You shouldn’t be judged for that. But if you look at every song as a pizza, you will rate songs as how well they conform to that known structure in your head of a pizza. If you start looking at them as different kinds of food...tacos and sushi and ice cream, you will find that you appreciate those songs for entirely different reasons. Massively missed opportunity for a quiche reference there ;-P X
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 6, 2019 7:08:10 GMT -5
Here’s the problem, I think, with what you’re doing. You’re comparing 2 things that don’t actually invite comparison. It’s like asking, what song is better and why...”Listen Up” or “Beethoven’s 5th Concerto” or “No Woman No Cry” by Bob Marley? Where do you even begin with that? The style, structure, and feel of songs are completely different, and they should be judged independently within the context of what each song is trying to do. This is the Place is really an impressive piece of music. There are some interesting creative choices in it, and when all of the individual pieces come together on the track, it manages to “soar” to the same heights as a traditional Noel Gallagher anthem, but without having the traditional Noel Gallagher chorus. It seems to me that you have a narrow definition of what makes a good song and thinner music taste, and that is perfectly fine. You shouldn’t be judged for that. But if you look at every song as a pizza, you will rate songs as how well they conform to that known structure in your head of a pizza. If you start looking at them as different kinds of food...tacos and sushi and ice cream, you will find that you appreciate those songs for entirely different reasons. Massively missed opportunity for a quiche reference there ;-P X
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 6, 2019 7:49:55 GMT -5
I like the song but something about the production I don't quite like... Then I saw Sardy produced it and that explains it. You got a link for that? Pretty sure Sardy had nothing to do with this tune. X Yeah, there’s no way in hell Sardy produced this. If he did, it’s the best thing he’s produced by a country mile. I actually think Noel produced this one himself...good for him if he did. From a pure production standpoint, Noel’s self-produced work sounds way better to me than his work with Sardy and Holmes. Sardy completely wrecked Noel’s first album with awful drums and mid-tempo plodding to the point where I can’t even listen to it anymore outside of 1 or 2 tracks. Holmes is a good creative influence and partner for Noel, but all the songs on WBTM have a little “fuzziness” to them, which makes the sound more distant and farther away than I’d like. I think this was a stylistic choice but it can be slightly frustrating at times. The tracks Noel produced himself all sound crystal clear. He’s not afraid to throw the kitchen sink at it and he seems to have good instincts as to what will make his songs sound the best.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 6, 2019 8:04:43 GMT -5
Yeah, i'd be surprised Sardy produced this too. He's never produced a record without an agressive guitar in it or i missed it.
I'm not as harsh towards him, as i like DBTT, DOYS and NGHFB (bar Record Machine and STC) productions. He's done Wrong Beach, Broken Arrow, Whata Life, Everybody's on the Run and Death of You and Me which are amazing tracks, Oasis level.
But it's not him.
My money on Noel having recorded a full album with him, in secret, to be released next year.
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Post by neila83 on Aug 6, 2019 9:37:38 GMT -5
Well you must really hate Songbird. So what is this universal truth to music, perhaps you could let us all in on it? Colombia has 3 chords and it's one of Oasis' greatest songs. You actually think you personally above everyone else get to define what is musically superior? That's some god complex. I don't think I've ever read anything as ridicous as an Oasis fan asking people to count chords to prove how good a song is. Jesus wept. i think it would be best if you could answer yourself. so heres a simple question - which song is better and why - "Listen Up" or "Probably All In The Mind"? after honestly answering this, replace those 2 titles with Once & This Is The Place. thats it. The only question I need answer is 'which song do I enjoy more'. Not sure what point you're trying to make but you obviously think it's very clever. If you're trying to place Once in the same league as Listen Up, well good for you. I can't agree at all but I won't tell you you're wrong.
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Post by neila83 on Aug 6, 2019 9:38:12 GMT -5
The only producer credit on tidal is Noel Gallagher, no Sardy here, move along.
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Post by neila83 on Aug 6, 2019 9:44:20 GMT -5
Yeah, i'd be surprised Sardy produced this too. He's never produced a record without an agressive guitar in it or i missed it. I'm not as harsh towards him, as i like DBTT, DOYS and NGHFB (bar Record Machine and STC) productions. He's done Wrong Beach, Broken Arrow, Whata Life, Everybody's on the Run and Death of You and Me which are amazing tracks, Oasis level. But it's not him. My money on Noel having recorded a full album with him, in secret, to be released next year. I really hope he hasn't, I'm not as relaxed as Sardy as you are, but mostly, I just don't think Noel needs him. I, don't see what he could possibly add? Indeed looking at Sardy's entire history with Oasis and Noel I struggle to see anything that could be termed a good production idea, the tracks barely differ from the demos. Except If I had a gun... I think Noel probably needed someone holding his hand at the start of his solo thing, but I don't see a need for it now.
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Post by oasismashups on Aug 6, 2019 12:56:51 GMT -5
Reminds me of this TUNE
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Aug 6, 2019 13:16:28 GMT -5
Been playing this constantly and it’s just not sticking. A nice sonic experience but the lack of a good hook has relegated it to playlist shuffle status unfortunately. I really want to like this, but it doesn’t make an emotional connection (which is what music is supposed to do in my world).
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Post by bt95 on Aug 6, 2019 14:07:53 GMT -5
I like the song but something about the production I don't quite like... Then I saw Sardy produced it and that explains it. Pretty sure Noel produced it.
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Post by mossy on Aug 6, 2019 14:30:10 GMT -5
Massively missed opportunity for a quiche reference there ;-P X At the very least there should have been a soup reference. X
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