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Post by yogurt on Aug 5, 2019 11:29:14 GMT -5
It's ok but I'm having trouble liking Noel's voice these days, especially in songs like this that don't suit him too well. The instrumentation and overall sound is cool, but I can't digest his voice. His vocals are definitely the weakest part of his music. I’ve never liked his voice but I suppose we shouldn’t be too critical, he was only ever a backing singer that did lead vocals on a new song, so it’s probably unfair to expect great vocals. I don’t think Noel would call himself a great singer
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Aug 5, 2019 11:29:15 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see Smashing Pumpkins fans, expecting Wonderwall, watch Noel bring a hand-held synthesizer on stage and play this..
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Post by neila83 on Aug 5, 2019 11:38:29 GMT -5
I personally think its fucking brilliant.
I gave it an 8 because I think it's fairly insane people handing out 9s and 10s on first listens to songs, as we see from how opinion has tended to drastically shift downwards over time. I remember being on the irc channel when heathe and chemistry was leaked and everyone was creaming themselves about it haha.
What's becoming clear is the level of divide on this forum means its barely even worth commenting on the songs of one of the brothers if you know you don't like what they're doing. Some people are never going to enjoy pretty much anything Noel releases now. Fair enough, it's a fair way from the reason those people got into his music, they don't have to like it Same goes for Liams music, some for valid reasons can't get into that.
It does amuse me though that with every Noel releade some here keep insisting he doesn't like this music and wil imminently revert to old school Noel because he can't stand Liam being more successful. And then Noel goes and releases something even more dancey. It may be time to accept that this is the music noel wants to make. I don't get why anyone is surprised, he grew up at the Hacienda, early pre-definitely maybe Oasis was heavily influenced by it.
I thought people here liked someone being 'real' but it seems if Noel doesn't churn out variations on wonderwall for the rest of his life, and make himself miserable in the process, some get irrationally upset about it. That is exactly what would make him, a fraud if he just chases the easy money rather than enjoying himself with bothering too much about that. Anyone who's seen his last tour knows this is the happiest he's been with what he's doing in years, decades even.
Remember, because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad, and people telling others they don't really like something is really weird.
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Post by jonnybrian on Aug 5, 2019 11:43:43 GMT -5
Not my thing really as weren't the 3 songs he did before either, main problem is I'm feeling like listening to a completely another band with Noel Gallagher as guest singer. But if it what makes him happy, I'll probably give the album a listen being somewhat loyal to him.
I hate doing ratings as well, perhaps 6 ?
I didn't mind "What a life" and "Ballad Of Mighty I" so experimenting itself isn't bad it's a matter of how it's done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 11:46:39 GMT -5
Noel is proving that you can fool some of the people some of the time. Yet another EP I won't be purchasing.
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Post by mossy on Aug 5, 2019 11:48:52 GMT -5
Noel is proving that you can fool some of the people some of the time. Yet another EP I won't be purchasing. Or he’s just proving that different people have different tastes in music? Incredibly hard to imagine I know. X
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 11:52:44 GMT -5
Noel is proving that you can fool some of the people some of the time. Yet another EP I won't be purchasing. Or that different people just have different tastes in music? Incredibly hard to imagine I know. X I like dance, house, electronica, disco, hip hop. In my opinion this is poorly executed, a bunch of random lyrics thrown over a thumping beat without any purpose or soul. Forgive me if I don't think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold.
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Post by mossy on Aug 5, 2019 11:53:41 GMT -5
Or that different people just have different tastes in music? Incredibly hard to imagine I know. X I like dance, house, electronica, disco, hip hop. In my opinion this is poorly executed, a bunch of random lyrics thrown over a thumping beat without any purpose or soul. Forgive me if I don't think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold. I’m not asking you to like it. I’m just saying don’t call people fools if they do. X
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 11:53:45 GMT -5
Or that different people just have different tastes in music? Incredibly hard to imagine I know. X I like dance, house, electronica, disco, hip hop. In my opinion this is poorly executed, a bunch of random lyrics thrown over a thumping beat without any purpose or soul. Forgive me if I don't think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold. Exactly. You can hear essentially the same song on any number of Hacienda compilations, only with a more capable singer.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 5, 2019 11:55:12 GMT -5
Or that different people just have different tastes in music? Incredibly hard to imagine I know. X I like dance, house, electronica, disco, hip hop. In my opinion this is poorly executed, a bunch of random lyrics thrown over a thumping beat without any purpose or soul. Forgive me if I don't think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold. Maybe the people who like it ACTUALLY really like it and not because they think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold? I know, an outlandish statement.
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Post by Thomas on Aug 5, 2019 11:57:54 GMT -5
I think it's a pretty solid song with a really nice groove to it and, especially, probably the best mixing NGHFB's ever had. Almost everything is exactly where it's meant to be. Reminded me a bit of Justice's Safe & Sound, except This Is The Place is obviously much fuller in its instrumentation with all its percussions and guitar lines and aaaaah's and the vocals aren't as clear/apparent. Verses are great. Probably my favourite part of the song, especially when the up-and-down tingly keyboard comes in. The chorus lets it down a bit for me. Not too keen on the "this is the place" line being repeated over and over. At least harmonize a bit over it! & it could've been a bit shorter, couldn't it? The early Foals/U2's Pop comparisons are spot on. I'm giving this a 7 – even though I can totally see myself rating it higher in a few days cause that bass is damn catchy.
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Post by lg on Aug 5, 2019 11:59:54 GMT -5
I gave it a 5 but now it's more a 4/10 It needed a bigger chorus
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Post by mossy on Aug 5, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -5
I like dance, house, electronica, disco, hip hop. In my opinion this is poorly executed, a bunch of random lyrics thrown over a thumping beat without any purpose or soul. Forgive me if I don't think every brick Noel lays is layered in 24k gold. Exactly. You can hear essentially the same song on any number of Hacienda compilations, only with a more capable singer. If you own any Lennon albums you’d better stop listening to Liam then by that logic. You’re banned from listening to Cigarettes and Alcohol too. In fact you should probably bin most of your entire music collection... not every single song released can be 100% original. X
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Post by Stemot on Aug 5, 2019 12:07:17 GMT -5
3/10. Noel's vocals are absolutely the worst thing about this otherwise middle of the road attempt.
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Post by pliolite on Aug 5, 2019 12:10:08 GMT -5
The chords are a ripoff of Blue Monday (he'd better watch it cause, with that Rihanna song they had to give songwriting credits to New Order), so it's decent in that respect, and I MUCH prefer the sounds used here to anything on WBTM, so it's a solid 7/10 for me right now. I know slagging off Noel's current style is sounding like a broken record now...but it's a simple fact that big productions, style over substance like this, it's ALWAYS where it goes wrong for Noel. Take Magic Pie, for example. Massive, fuck off production values, yet it's a huge pile of poo. Stripped back, that song could have been really great. What he's doing atm is his own solo version of BHN. XD
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Post by spaneli on Aug 5, 2019 12:24:08 GMT -5
The chords are a ripoff of Blue Monday (he'd better watch it cause, with that Rihanna song they had to give songwriting credits to New Order), so it's decent in that respect, and I MUCH prefer the sounds used here to anything on WBTM, so it's a solid 7/10 for me right now. I know slagging off Noel's current style is sounding like a broken record now...but it's a simple fact that big productions, style over substance like this, it's ALWAYS where it goes wrong for Noel. Take Magic Pie, for example. Massive, fuck off production values, yet it's a huge pile of poo. Stripped back, that song could have been really great. What he's doing atm is his own solo version of BHN. XD Noel's best songs were his best songs. I don't get the stripped back thinking. Like Heathen Chemistry is stripped back, so....?
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Post by rickypaglais on Aug 5, 2019 12:25:35 GMT -5
Very boring, poor vocals. Looking forward to his midlife crisis finishing.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 5, 2019 12:32:33 GMT -5
The chords are a ripoff of Blue Monday (he'd better watch it cause, with that Rihanna song they had to give songwriting credits to New Order), so it's decent in that respect, and I MUCH prefer the sounds used here to anything on WBTM, so it's a solid 7/10 for me right now. I know slagging off Noel's current style is sounding like a broken record now...but it's a simple fact that big productions, style over substance like this, it's ALWAYS where it goes wrong for Noel. Take Magic Pie, for example. Massive, fuck off production values, yet it's a huge pile of poo. Stripped back, that song could have been really great. What he's doing atm is his own solo version of BHN. XD Imagine suing Noel over a 3-4 second homage to New Order. What kind of money would they even pull in? This is normally done with a massive successful song. Like Katy Perry most recently. That guy is getting upwards of $4 million. This won’t be a massive hit or generate enough dough to chase after. It’ll never happen anyway.
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Post by pliolite on Aug 5, 2019 12:45:41 GMT -5
The chords are a ripoff of Blue Monday (he'd better watch it cause, with that Rihanna song they had to give songwriting credits to New Order), so it's decent in that respect, and I MUCH prefer the sounds used here to anything on WBTM, so it's a solid 7/10 for me right now. I know slagging off Noel's current style is sounding like a broken record now...but it's a simple fact that big productions, style over substance like this, it's ALWAYS where it goes wrong for Noel. Take Magic Pie, for example. Massive, fuck off production values, yet it's a huge pile of poo. Stripped back, that song could have been really great. What he's doing atm is his own solo version of BHN. XD Noel's best songs were his best songs. I don't get the stripped back thinking. Like Heathen Chemistry is stripped back, so....? Heathen Chemistry has shit songs on it like Probably All In The Mind, crap production on good ones like Force of Nature, and Liam's vocals on the whole album suck. Noel allowing Hung In A Bad Place and A Quick Peep on there. That record is a fucking embarrassment.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 5, 2019 12:49:46 GMT -5
Noel's best songs were his best songs. I don't get the stripped back thinking. Like Heathen Chemistry is stripped back, so....? Heathen Chemistry has shit songs on it like Probably All In The Mind, crap production on good ones like Force of Nature, and Liam's vocals on the whole album suck. Noel allowing Hung In A Bad Place and A Quick Peep on there. That record is a fucking embarrassment. So again, that album is stripped back. So is DBTT. And that's also regarded as a low tier Oasis album. I don't think it matters whether the songs have big production values or don't because WBTM and DOYS and BHN has some of my favorite Oasis songs.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 5, 2019 12:51:43 GMT -5
I never want Noel to sound stripped back. His melodies and instrumentals are always better when they're bold, loud, and energetic. True in the mid-nineties, true now.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 5, 2019 13:15:37 GMT -5
Man. Noel has lost it. What a fall from TMWBTM. To be fair, I wasn't terribly keen on that one either, not in comparison to CY, which I personally think offers his best work to date (after going solo).
Liam is definitely winning this round. His songs, even the not so great ones are blowing away anything Noel is doing at the moment.
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Post by jonnybrian on Aug 5, 2019 13:19:12 GMT -5
I know slagging off Noel's current style is sounding like a broken record now...but it's a simple fact that big productions, style over substance like this, it's ALWAYS where it goes wrong for Noel. Take Magic Pie, for example. Massive, fuck off production values, yet it's a huge pile of poo. Stripped back, that song could have been really great. Talkin' about broken records, yet you're going at BHN's production? I'd say Magic Pie's totally ace in all possible viewpoints imaginable. Never got the Be Here Now -bashing anyway. Great music. Even wish he'd write more and more of those magic pies today. There's your stripped back version anyway. Heathen Chemistry has shit songs .... That record is a fucking embarrassment. hmmm... I may have picked on wrong guy. U don't like the band do you?
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Post by bathqueen1 on Aug 5, 2019 14:00:10 GMT -5
Trying to make this come off as "a new direction" or "experiment inspired by david holmes" is embarrasing. The less Noel can come up with the melody, the more he hides it with rich production - Some Might Say = zero prodution, 100% tune. whatever this forgetable tune is called = 100% production, zero tune.
BTW - whoever claims this is better than "Once" - im sorry, Music has a universal truth to it. just go and count the chords, go and figure out the notes. Once is musically superior to this Garageband made FiFa background music.
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Post by Ltrain on Aug 5, 2019 14:00:48 GMT -5
28 people gave it an 8? Some people are so far up Noel's ass that everything he does is great to them. This goes for some Liam fans as well. Noel's dance tune phase is pretty boring.
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