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Post by mossy on Dec 18, 2018 12:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 12:25:01 GMT -5
Sick of them both chatting shit about each other... tbh Yeah, that's always the boring part of their interviews, and this interview is quite Liam/Oasis heavy. They sound like broken records when they talk about each other, always bringing up the same old stuff.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 18, 2018 13:48:41 GMT -5
I didn't think Liam had to pay Noel for playing his songs live. Thought you only have to pay when you release a cover? Generally, when playing live, the cost of royalties for all songs performed that were written by someone else are covered by the venue. Yes, royalties are meant to paid out for every single show played. It feels a bit archaic, but that's the system. Possibly guigsysEstring could shine some more light on this. Basically what you have already written, all I can add is that the royalties are collected by the performance rights organisations which are PRS for the UK and ASCAP, BMI and SESAC in the USA as examples from the venues and distributed using agents and submitted set lists to work out royalties due. The link below explains a bit more and also covers other aspects of publishing on the site. Songtrust How To: Collect Live Performance Royalties
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Post by Regi on Dec 18, 2018 14:16:10 GMT -5
I’m disappointed if Gem has been giving Noel the Jackanory. I thought he was ok. Even if he did, his mate Noel has just thrown him under the bus.
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Post by joladella on Dec 18, 2018 14:40:02 GMT -5
We need a volunteer to break into Liam's house and destroy his phone!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 15:02:42 GMT -5
We need a volunteer to break into Liam's house and destroy his phone! they had problems long before twitter...
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Post by joladella on Dec 18, 2018 15:07:56 GMT -5
We need a volunteer to break into Liam's house and destroy his phone! they had problems long before twitter... I know but no need to escalate it!
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Post by The Chief on Dec 18, 2018 20:36:12 GMT -5
I’m disappointed if Gem has been giving Noel the Jackanory. I thought he was ok. Even if he did, his mate Noel has just thrown him under the bus. Erm, there are two members of Beady Eye in Noel's band. Which means either of them could have told him. One could have said and the other one corroborated. And given how Liam's been gladly claiming that Noel sabotaged Oasis to have an excuse to start a solo carreer (which is a ridiculous theory, Noel didn't HAVE to break the band up for that) then I think this is just the stone Liam threw that came back in its path (see what I did there?). Also, that's not news. I believe Andy or Gem already spoke about this saying they learned about it by text or on Twitter or something. I can't remember where I saw this though. Plus if Liam broke Beady Eye up that way then I would completely understand any of the three other band members to be pissed at him and explain how things happened to Noel who was already mates with Gem and Sharrock.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 19, 2018 0:36:04 GMT -5
Even if he did, his mate Noel has just thrown him under the bus. Erm, there are two members of Beady Eye in Noel's band. Which means either of them could have told him. One could have said and the other one corroborated. And given how Liam's been gladly claiming that Noel sabotaged Oasis to have an excuse to start a solo carreer (which is a ridiculous theory, Noel didn't HAVE to break the band up for that) then I think this is just the stone Liam threw that came back in its path (see what I did there?). Also, that's not news. I believe Andy or Gem already spoke about this saying they learned about it by text or on Twitter or something. I can't remember where I saw this though. Plus if Liam broke Beady Eye up that way then I would completely understand any of the three other band members to be pissed at him and explain how things happened to Noel who was already mates with Gem and Sharrock. Andy said in an interview not long after that he hadn't heard from Liam for a while then he got a text to say he was leaving the band. I think Andy was happy enough with that though, he was already talking about Ride getting back together by that point. Gem has never commented publicly about it as far as I know although I do recall his (now ex) wife making some snarky comment towards Liam afterwards so there may have been some bad blood there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 4:08:16 GMT -5
They should be happy it was done by text message, no plums were thrown
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Post by bt95 on Dec 19, 2018 7:28:45 GMT -5
I thought it was common knowledge that Liam left the band by text? I'm sure he's mentioned it himself?
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Post by Rolo on Dec 19, 2018 7:37:22 GMT -5
He didn't leave because he had a record deal offer on the table, he left way, way before he even contemplated new music. Utter shite.
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Post by The Chief on Dec 19, 2018 7:48:27 GMT -5
He didn't leave because he had a record deal offer on the table, he left way, way before he even contemplated new music. Utter shite. That absolutely may be possible indeed. But that's all Liam's side. Same with the whole "Noel breaking Oasis for a solo carreer" thing. The fact remains that all we're getting are bits and pieces from two people angry at each other. So in both cases they're not very credible sources. As it's been said by someone in this thread I'm really tired of them throwing stones at each other in the press. Part of this is due to the journalists themselves but seriously one of them should just say "Look we've talked enough about this, next question" and just stop the madness. If the music is what counts for either of them they'll stop talking shit about each other and get on with the music. Noel says Liam is setting the agenda. Well both of them control the agenda. If he doesn't want to talk about it then just fucking don't!
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Post by joladella on Dec 19, 2018 8:20:49 GMT -5
Tbf, Noel never was in Beady Eye so it is not exactly the same.
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Post by fartpanic on Dec 19, 2018 9:25:15 GMT -5
Yet again more media lies from Noel.
He's tries to front it as some moral high ground I'm bigger than all this blah blah and then leaves just as many childish digs as Liam.
Andy was fucking off to Ride, Liam probably just thought no ones really arsed here and everyone at Beady Eye gigs is only here for me so fuck it I'm off. I'm guessing he needed to show he wasn't actively doing any music whilst the divorce was going on too.
I think Liam is better off without the snoar fest of Andy and Gem in the interviews too.
Now Gem has to be a session musician for a man whos slated his former band and his songwriting for years and they are all looking on while Liam goes on to probably headline stadiums soon. The bitterness is strong.
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Post by fartpanic on Dec 19, 2018 9:26:04 GMT -5
Tbf, Noel never was in Beady Eye so it is not exactly the same. Has in a version of Beady Eye now.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2018 9:53:13 GMT -5
Beady Eye was never a good idea. I called it the minute it was announced on this forum. It was always gonna end up solo Noel and solo Liam. Nobody cares about the rest.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 19, 2018 10:29:27 GMT -5
Now I think about it didn't Liam say he was pissed off at the fact they didn't tour US for BE and no one else in the band was interested? Even though he offered to fund it himself? Didn't seem like anyone's heart was in it anymore after the disaster that was the BE campaign. He certainly didn't walk away from a band that was going places.
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Post by fartpanic on Dec 19, 2018 10:45:27 GMT -5
Noel is hanging on to the fact Liam left Gem with nothing to do. Yet Noel did exactly the same when he left Oasis.
Beady Eye was in essence Liam solo without the name Liam on it. If you genuinely believe anyone was there for Andy and Gem then you're very deluded. They did well to hang off Liam for a bit, especially Gem who doesn't have a credible band to go back to like Andy did.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2018 11:02:17 GMT -5
Now I think about it didn't Liam say he was pissed off at the fact they didn't tour US for BE and no one else in the band was interested? Even though he offered to fund it himself? Didn't seem like anyone's heart was in it anymore after the disaster that was the BE campaign. He certainly didn't walk away from a band that was going places. I don’t blame anyone in the band for not touring USA for BE. That was a bad time for the band. Poor sales. Gem’s injury. Liam marriage issues behind the scenes. It takes a lot of time, energy and money to tour. Touring America and it’s vastness is a challenge for all. It definitely wasn’t worth it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2018 11:06:46 GMT -5
Noel is hanging on to the fact Liam left Gem with nothing to do. Yet Noel did exactly the same when he left Oasis. Beady Eye was in essence Liam solo without the name Liam on it. If you genuinely believe anyone was there for Andy and Gem then you're very deluded. They did well to hang off Liam for a bit, especially Gem who doesn't have a credible band to go back to like Andy did. People like to always say “whatever, Beady Eye was really Liam solo with a backing band.....”. That’s really not true. The three of them aren’t really up for writing a full album of tunes. Great guys but that is not their strengths. They divided up songwriting duties to extreme mixed results. Liam is a god damn brand people. He always should have been using his name. That changes everything. For the positive. I also have no issues with him having songwriters. I expect that stuff. Liam is at his best singing other people’s songs. And when they are GOOD songs he really shines. We saw that over the last year or so. Looking forward to more.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2018 11:07:37 GMT -5
My favorite piece of Oasis trivia is this, Noel quit and walked out of Oasis more times than Liam yet Liam is always labeled the troublemaker. I find that ironic.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 19, 2018 11:21:48 GMT -5
Now I think about it didn't Liam say he was pissed off at the fact they didn't tour US for BE and no one else in the band was interested? Even though he offered to fund it himself? Didn't seem like anyone's heart was in it anymore after the disaster that was the BE campaign. He certainly didn't walk away from a band that was going places. I don’t blame anyone in the band for not touring USA for BE. That was a bad time for the band. Poor sales. Gem’s injury. Liam marriage issues begins the scenes. It takes a lot of time, energy and money to tour. Touring America and it’s vastness is a challenge for all. It definitely wasn’t worth it. me neither, just recall that Liam mentioned it as an issue that pissed him off. He obviously had expectations of a certain level of success and was finding it difficult to deal with reduced circumstances. Add his personal life falling to pieces it's not hard to see why he threw in the towel at that point.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2018 11:29:19 GMT -5
I don’t blame anyone in the band for not touring USA for BE. That was a bad time for the band. Poor sales. Gem’s injury. Liam marriage issues begins the scenes. It takes a lot of time, energy and money to tour. Touring America and it’s vastness is a challenge for all. It definitely wasn’t worth it. me neither, just recall that Liam mentioned it as an issue that pissed him off. He obviously had expectations of a certain level of success and was finding it difficult to deal with reduced circumstances. Add his personal life falling to pieces it's not hard to see why he threw in the towel at that point. Do you blame him? Does anyone really miss Beady Eye? Literally everyone’s situation in the band has improved since it dissolved. Liam - big solo star Andy - back with his original band Ride, having a nice little comeback and tour Gem - touring with Noel’s band across the globe. Good paycheck. Chris - touring with Noel’s band across the globe. Good paycheck. Oasis fans - getting awesome solo albums by both brothers
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Post by fartpanic on Dec 19, 2018 11:40:05 GMT -5
Noel is hanging on to the fact Liam left Gem with nothing to do. Yet Noel did exactly the same when he left Oasis. Beady Eye was in essence Liam solo without the name Liam on it. If you genuinely believe anyone was there for Andy and Gem then you're very deluded. They did well to hang off Liam for a bit, especially Gem who doesn't have a credible band to go back to like Andy did. People like to always say “whatever, Beady Eye was really Liam solo with a backing band.....”. That’s really not true. The three of them aren’t really up for writing a full album of tunes. Great guys but that is not their strengths. They divided up songwriting duties to extreme mixed results. Liam is a god damn brand people. He always should have been using his name. That changes everything. For the positive. I also have no issues with him having songwriters. I expect that stuff. Liam is at his best singing other people’s songs. And when they are GOOD songs he really shines. We saw that over the last year or so. Looking forward to more. I agree with you. You seem to miss my original point. Everyone listening to Beady eye was listening because it was Liam Gallagher. No one was listening to check out what the bloke from Heavy Stereo was getting up to these days. That's where it was Liam solo without the name. Agreed he should totally have done the solo stuff from the start. He was incredibly naive to think they could do it without his name. I kind of liked that though. It was 4 lads doing what they loved because they wanted to. Rather than the marketing machine Noel and Liams solo work had relied on.
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