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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 11:45:18 GMT -5
Why all this hate for Dave Sardy? Beard envy. X |
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Post by bogaloo on Feb 28, 2019 11:58:04 GMT -5
People still blaming Sardy when the one he was involved with from the start actually sounds good  Its easier I suppose. Also, even if you want to 100% blame Sardy for the sound of the other albums, the fact is Noel was his boss! Noel signed off on those albums. Noel also directed Sardy in what he wanted. One of the reasons he binned the AA album is because it was too quiet FFS (read: in reality it had dynamic range and wasn’t brickwalled to fook). Noel definitely has to take the majority of the blame/responsibility in my opinion. X Yeah, the brickwalling thing can be annoying as hell. I wonder if that is, at least partially, the reasons why some songs sound better live... You can actually hear the instruments and not some muddled wall of sound! |
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 28, 2019 14:53:45 GMT -5
In an ideal world I'd like a stripped-back acoustic album (which I'm sure Sardy would be able to produce) and a better go at an album with Holmes as well. The best of both worlds.
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Post by Flashbax on Feb 28, 2019 16:08:51 GMT -5
Is Jeremy Stacey back too? I heard he recorded drums for a new version of Dead in the Water...
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Feb 28, 2019 16:17:26 GMT -5
Is Jeremy Stacey back too? I heard he recorded drums for a new version of Dead in the Water... My God I hope not. |
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Post by chrismh on Feb 28, 2019 16:17:28 GMT -5
Is Jeremy Stacey back too? I heard he recorded drums for a new version of Dead in the Water... Wait… what?! Is that possible? I thought that Noel doesn't want to re-record that song |
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Post by shannee on Feb 28, 2019 16:31:05 GMT -5
Is Jeremy Stacey back too? I heard he recorded drums for a new version of Dead in the Water...  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 28, 2019 17:14:37 GMT -5
The point isn't that Sardy wrecks albums, it's that he will do absolutely nothing to stop Noel wrecking his own. Tbf to Sardy it’s probably difficult to tell Tim to do something he doesn’t want to. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 17:16:42 GMT -5
Why all this hate for Dave Sardy? We have ears. Don't you? |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 28, 2019 18:03:22 GMT -5
Why all this hate for Dave Sardy? We have ears. Don't you? Listening to Dave Sardy's mixes makes it feel like you don't have ears because you can't hear a goddamn thing. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 28, 2019 18:33:53 GMT -5
i really wish i had ears like the majority of this forum who slag producers off,,it all sounds fine to me
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2019 18:39:39 GMT -5
i really wish i had ears like the majority of this forum who slag producers off,,it all sounds fine to me |
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Post by matt on Feb 28, 2019 19:21:13 GMT -5
The point isn't that Sardy wrecks albums, it's that he will do absolutely nothing to stop Noel wrecking his own. True and I definitely agree, but a producer should also have an element of creative control and push the artistic direction of an album. *Reads Dave Sardy’s CV - highlights include Jet and Catfish & The Bottlemen *Proceeds to put loaded shotgun in mouth |
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Post by theone on Feb 28, 2019 23:37:07 GMT -5
Please God not sardy. His mixes are terrible! Why Noel, why?!!!
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Post by Henrz on Mar 1, 2019 4:00:50 GMT -5
i really wish i had ears like the majority of this forum who slag producers off,,it all sounds fine to me Personally I don't really wish that. Sardy's productions sound okay to me and I like it that way |
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Post by bt95 on Mar 1, 2019 4:29:19 GMT -5
Dave Sardy? Haha, what a dud, what a coward! Back to impotent middle aged paunchy pub rock for Noel. In the meantime, I’m off out the door! Couldn’t give a flying fuck about this. Surely this will just be the NGHFB touring band album? The sessions for that were done in November. Noel's said loads of times that he is planning to make an album with Holmes, and also that those sessions would start in January. |
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Post by mossy on Mar 1, 2019 7:19:20 GMT -5
Dave Sardy? Haha, what a dud, what a coward! Back to impotent middle aged paunchy pub rock for Noel. In the meantime, I’m off out the door! Couldn’t give a flying fuck about this. Surely this will just be the NGHFB touring band album? The sessions for that were done in November. Noel's said loads of times that he is planning to make an album with Holmes, and also that those sessions would start in January. Yes. I think it most likely he recorded with the full band in London in Nov and he’s now been out in LA with Sardy to do overdubs/mix/etc. X |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 1, 2019 7:41:36 GMT -5
Surely this will just be the NGHFB touring band album? The sessions for that were done in November. Noel's said loads of times that he is planning to make an album with Holmes, and also that those sessions would start in January. Yes. I think it most likely he recorded with the full band in London in Nov and he’s now been out in LA with Sardy to do overdubs/mix/etc. X As long it doesnt needs new drum takes im fine. |
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Post by iamthewlrs on Mar 1, 2019 8:16:03 GMT -5
Jessica is heading to Abbey Road today
Posted on her Instagram stories
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Post by andymorris on Mar 1, 2019 9:16:23 GMT -5
Even WBTM doesn’t sound that great in parts. On a good sound system Holy Mountain sounds really muffled. Like the musicians were in a different room to the mics recording them! X I think that's on purpose. The rest of the record sound vastly different. I think they wanted to recreate a muddy sound, a lo-fi kind of 70s music, to give a bit of strengh because the melody is very light and almost childish. I noticed tunes with a brass section often tend to have a muddier, fattier sound. Maybe they need to add that to drums and guitar so they can be heard next to the brass, that have a very round sound. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 1, 2019 11:21:08 GMT -5
Even WBTM doesn’t sound that great in parts. On a good sound system Holy Mountain sounds really muffled. Like the musicians were in a different room to the mics recording them! X The title track has really boomy bass, as well, like it was recorded in Neil Young’s barn. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 1, 2019 11:39:01 GMT -5
People still blaming Sardy when the one he was involved with from the start actually sounds good Its easier I suppose. One of the reasons he binned the AA album is because it was too quiet FFS (read: in reality it had dynamic range and wasn’t brickwalled to fook). Noel definitely has to take the majority of the blame/responsibility in my opinion. X Yeah. Noel needs to give up his dream of making his stuff sound like it was recorded with Phil Spector at the desk. Listen to all of his Britpop peers’ records—Damon Albarn, Thom Yorke and Radiohead, Gaz Coombes, and so on—their stuff all sounds so much better than Noel’s, whichever way you choose to listen to it. If he is intent on becoming an “artist” finally, he needs to learn how to make his stuff sound half decent. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Mar 1, 2019 12:55:39 GMT -5
Time to rename this thread "Back in the studio with Sardy."
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2019 17:42:05 GMT -5
Not sure if this was posted anywhere but Nile Rodgers was at Abbey Road today, said he hung out with Noel and heard a cool new track. So good Fucking news. http://instagram.com/p/Buefz-lghf4 |
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2019 6:49:20 GMT -5
Sad thing is we know we wouldn’t have heard anything as ambitious sounding as Man Who Built The Moon on previous non-Holmes records. Who Built The Moon is the only album Noel sounds epic and ambitious.
No chance of that happening with The King of Turgidness Mr Sardy (yes I know Noel is to blame too but Sardy’s CV is full to the brim of woeful acts).
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