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Post by matt on Feb 27, 2019 18:46:16 GMT -5
What a boring coward Noel is. Literally the worst insult you could give to a musician.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 27, 2019 19:00:49 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, is there a single person on the planet who wanted Noel to work with Dave Sardy again?  |
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Post by mossy on Feb 27, 2019 19:13:02 GMT -5
I don’t want anyone to think I’m a fan of Sardy or anything but the only time he’s been involved with a Noel release from the very beginning was DOYS and that actually sounds alright. He came to both DBTT and NGHFB late. I think Noel is more to blame for those albums being poor sounding. So given all he’s learnt with Holmes, the AA and producing CY himself, this news isn’t that concerning. Yet... X
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Post by Manualex on Feb 27, 2019 19:55:02 GMT -5
I don’t want anyone to think I’m a fan of Sardy or anything but the only time he’s been involved with a Noel release from the very beginning was DOYS and that actually sounds alright. He came to both DBTT and NGHFB late. I think Noel is more to blame for those albums being poor sounding. So given all he’s learnt with Holmes, the AA and producing CY himself, this news isn’t that concerning. Yet... X Stil, the dude has a 1/3 record while producing Noel Gallagher's music. Catfish and the bottleman stuff isnt quite better(talking bout production) and I think they havent changed producers since they started with Sardy. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 27, 2019 20:01:10 GMT -5
I don’t want anyone to think I’m a fan of Sardy or anything but the only time he’s been involved with a Noel release from the very beginning was DOYS and that actually sounds alright. He came to both DBTT and NGHFB late. I think Noel is more to blame for those albums being poor sounding. So given all he’s learnt with Holmes, the AA and producing CY himself, this news isn’t that concerning. Yet... X Stil, the dude has a 1/3 record while producing Noel Gallagher's music. Catfish and the bottleman stuff isnt quite better(talking bout production) and I think they havent changed producers since they started with Sardy. Believe me, I’d much rather hear Noel is working with someone else. Amazing he’s gone from Holmes back to Sardy. And amazing that he got Mike Bruce back for videos. He definitely likes working with people he already knows. Let’s wait and see. X |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2019 20:05:00 GMT -5
Stil, the dude has a 1/3 record while producing Noel Gallagher's music. Catfish and the bottleman stuff isnt quite better(talking bout production) and I think they havent changed producers since they started with Sardy. Believe me, I’d much rather hear Noel is working with someone else. Amazing he’s gone from Holmes back to Sardy. And amazing that he got Mike Bruce back for videos. He definitely likes working with people he already knows. Let’s wait and see. X I’m not surprised Sardy is back. Noel likes him a lot. He did tell us he will make two records at the same time again. I bet a normal birds record comes first since the Holmes project could linger based on Noel’s studio inventions. Assuming he sticks to that rule. |
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Post by squarewave on Feb 27, 2019 20:07:51 GMT -5
noel working with sardy again is not very exciting news.
on a side note: noel needs to make a record with the band playing live in the room, not with his click track layer method he's been using since morning glory. do something where the vocal goes down the same time as the band, think a Crazy Horse vibe. Its too bad David Briggs is gone, he would have been a good man to produce something different for Noel.
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 27, 2019 21:46:22 GMT -5
Fucking hell.
Please be for a Sardy film thing or an EP or something.
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Post by bogaloo on Feb 28, 2019 2:17:07 GMT -5
So maybe just maybe these are Noel’s current projects....... - Touring Band EP (Record Store Day) - David Holmes Record - Typical Noel Record like the first two birds albums We know Noel recoded and mixed songs back in November. We know he’s currently in the studio. I assumed it was with Holmes but maybe he started his proper sounding birds album first with Sardy? I may be misremembering, but didn't he say in that BBC interview around the time of Mercury prize that he would start working with Holmes in January? I don't think we assumed it was Holmes. You may be right regarding the 3 projects- something with touring band, something with Holmes, something with Sardy. Of the 3, the one with Sardy is what I'm not really looking forward. Anyway, as mossy pointed out, he's not the only one to blame for how the 2 records he wasn't involved with from the beggining ended up sounding |
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 2:56:46 GMT -5
So maybe just maybe these are Noel’s current projects....... - Touring Band EP (Record Store Day) - David Holmes Record - Typical Noel Record like the first two birds albums We know Noel recoded and mixed songs back in November. We know he’s currently in the studio. I assumed it was with Holmes but maybe he started his proper sounding birds album first with Sardy? I may be misremembering, but didn't he say in that BBC interview around the time of Mercury prize that he would start working with Holmes in January? I don't think we assumed it was Holmes. You may be right regarding the 3 projects- something with touring band, something with Holmes, something with Sardy. Of the 3, the one with Sardy is what I'm not really looking forward. Anyway, as mossy pointed out, he's not the only one to blame for how the 2 records he wasn't involved with from the beggining ended up sounding Why do people seriously think he’s going to release a touring band EP? That would be very out of character for him. I think it more likely he recorded with his band in London as they all live there and so it’s cheaper, then he flew out to LA to do overdubs, more recording himself and mix with Sardy. All this being for his “typical Noel record” using songs he’s written and had ready over the last few years while making and promoting WBTM. X |
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Post by MONO on Feb 28, 2019 3:02:23 GMT -5
I think an EP is very unlikely as well. In case he's got only 6 proper songs, he'll just add a few instrumental/"experimental" tracks and sell it as an album.
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Post by bogaloo on Feb 28, 2019 3:06:22 GMT -5
I may be misremembering, but didn't he say in that BBC interview around the time of Mercury prize that he would start working with Holmes in January? I don't think we assumed it was Holmes. You may be right regarding the 3 projects- something with touring band, something with Holmes, something with Sardy. Of the 3, the one with Sardy is what I'm not really looking forward. Anyway, as mossy pointed out, he's not the only one to blame for how the 2 records he wasn't involved with from the beggining ended up sounding Why do people seriously think he’s going to release a touring band EP? That would be very out of character for him. I think it more likely he recorded with his band in London as they all live there and so it’s cheaper, then he flew out to LA to do overdubs, more recording himself and mix with Sardy. All this being for his “typical Noel record” using songs he’s written and had ready over the last few years while making and promoting WBTM. X You may be right, and it is out of character. but didn't he say he was mixing something a while back? I'm assuming those mixing sessions were done and this was something else. But you may be right. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 3:08:04 GMT -5
Why do people seriously think he’s going to release a touring band EP? That would be very out of character for him. I think it more likely he recorded with his band in London as they all live there and so it’s cheaper, then he flew out to LA to do overdubs, more recording himself and mix with Sardy. All this being for his “typical Noel record” using songs he’s written and had ready over the last few years while making and promoting WBTM. X You may be right, and it is out of character. but didn't he say he was mixing something a while back? I'm assuming those mixing sessions were done and this was something else. But you may be right. You can have multiple recording and/or mixing sessions for one album though. Even if he fully finished a few tracks at abbey road it doesn’t mean he’ll put them out as an EP. Also, we know he almost certainly isn’t releasing those tracks for RSD given it’s confirmed The Reflex and Richard Norris remixes are coming out for that. X |
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Post by bogaloo on Feb 28, 2019 3:26:59 GMT -5
You may be right, and it is out of character. but didn't he say he was mixing something a while back? I'm assuming those mixing sessions were done and this was something else. But you may be right. You can have multiple recording and/or mixing sessions for one album though. Even if he fully finished a few tracks at abbey road it doesn’t mean he’ll put them out as an EP. Also, we know he almost certainly isn’t releasing those tracks for RSD given it’s confirmed The Reflex and Richard Norris remixes are coming out for that. X I didn't really expect that possible EP or album to be coming out this RSD, precisely because of the remixes being scheduled to be released. You're most likely right. All balls are in the air right now. Let's wait and see. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2019 6:04:46 GMT -5
I may be misremembering, but didn't he say in that BBC interview around the time of Mercury prize that he would start working with Holmes in January? I don't think we assumed it was Holmes. You may be right regarding the 3 projects- something with touring band, something with Holmes, something with Sardy. Of the 3, the one with Sardy is what I'm not really looking forward. Anyway, as mossy pointed out, he's not the only one to blame for how the 2 records he wasn't involved with from the beggining ended up sounding Why do people seriously think he’s going to release a touring band EP? That would be very out of character for him. I think it more likely he recorded with his band in London as they all live there and so it’s cheaper, then he flew out to LA to do overdubs, more recording himself and mix with Sardy. All this being for his “typical Noel record” using songs he’s written and had ready over the last few years while making and promoting WBTM. X We are all just guessing and dreaming. Who knows man. Just having some fun with it all. We will all know the details later today when the list is announced. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 28, 2019 6:08:18 GMT -5
People still blaming Sardy when the one he was involved with from the start actually sounds good  Its easier I suppose. |
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Post by eva on Feb 28, 2019 6:14:34 GMT -5
man, I don't know. I might be the only one but I'd rather Noel play dad-rock than dad-dance
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 6:44:34 GMT -5
You can have multiple recording and/or mixing sessions for one album though. Even if he fully finished a few tracks at abbey road it doesn’t mean he’ll put them out as an EP. Also, we know he almost certainly isn’t releasing those tracks for RSD given it’s confirmed The Reflex and Richard Norris remixes are coming out for that. X I didn't really expect that possible EP or album to be coming out this RSD, precisely because of the remixes being scheduled to be released. You're most likely right. All ball's in the air right now. Let's wait and see. Nice to see he’s grafting and working on things at least. No more of this taking years off to sit around the house doing fook all. X |
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 6:51:31 GMT -5
man, I don't know. I might be the only one but I'd rather Noel play dad-rock than dad-dance You have two decades worth of Noel’s dad rock to play. You’re spoiled for choice! X |
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Post by eva on Feb 28, 2019 6:59:36 GMT -5
man, I don't know. I might be the only one but I'd rather Noel play dad-rock than dad-dance You have two decades worth of Noel’s dad rock to play. You’re spoiled for choice! X  |
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 7:06:44 GMT -5
People still blaming Sardy when the one he was involved with from the start actually sounds good Its easier I suppose. Also, even if you want to 100% blame Sardy for the sound of the other albums, the fact is Noel was his boss! Noel signed off on those albums. Noel also directed Sardy in what he wanted. One of the reasons he binned the AA album is because it was too quiet FFS (read: in reality it had dynamic range and wasn’t brickwalled to fook). Noel definitely has to take the majority of the blame/responsibility in my opinion. X |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 28, 2019 7:16:42 GMT -5
The point isn't that Sardy wrecks albums, it's that he will do absolutely nothing to stop Noel wrecking his own.
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 7:22:46 GMT -5
The point isn't that Sardy wrecks albums, it's that he will do absolutely nothing to stop Noel wrecking his own. Haha, well at this point we just have to hope that Noel has learnt a few things since 2011 when he last worked with Sardy... X |
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Post by mossy on Feb 28, 2019 7:25:14 GMT -5
Even WBTM doesn’t sound that great in parts.
On a good sound system Holy Mountain sounds really muffled. Like the musicians were in a different room to the mics recording them!
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Post by frederickacquiesce on Feb 28, 2019 9:10:43 GMT -5
Why all this hate for Dave Sardy?
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