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Post by deadman on Sept 22, 2018 12:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 22, 2018 12:30:05 GMT -5
Good news. Hope this one doesn’t take four years as well!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 22, 2018 12:31:32 GMT -5
Great! We can hear it all together in 2021!!!!!!!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 22, 2018 13:20:53 GMT -5
Great! We can hear it all together in 2021!!!!!!! Haha just wanted to post something similar |
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Post by MONO on Sept 22, 2018 13:32:23 GMT -5
Oh no. Not again.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 22, 2018 14:11:27 GMT -5
Great! We can hear it all together in 2021!!!!!!! That is unless it winds up in a socks drawer. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 14:14:23 GMT -5
Holy Mountain 2 electric boogaloo
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 22, 2018 14:38:11 GMT -5
Noel just can’t quit that old way of working. Big long roll outs. Long ass tours. I like how Weller is hip with the times.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 22, 2018 14:40:23 GMT -5
Great! We can hear it all together in 2021!!!!!!! My guess is that this might be faster. Holmes did make the point that Noel got better and quicker as the process went on. I also think he might release some type of bridge album, much like Chasing Yesterday was. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Sept 22, 2018 14:56:07 GMT -5
cue tesco cue moving house before anything gets started
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 22, 2018 15:22:37 GMT -5
Great news !
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 22, 2018 16:11:43 GMT -5
He must've heard Liam was ready to kick out another. Got to keep up with the pace.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 22, 2018 17:29:14 GMT -5
I like what they did for the most part on WBTM. I just want it to be a better sounding record. There's not much clarity to the mix. I've got in on vinyl and it just sounds compressed. He needs more songs on there too.
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Post by durk on Sept 22, 2018 17:40:00 GMT -5
i hope to God he doesn't overthink it this time by 'not trying to sound like Noel Gallagher'
please come in with some tunes that have been demoed. the write the tunes day of shit never really works- and lyrics tend to suffer for it too.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 22, 2018 20:00:11 GMT -5
I just hope he avoids Holy Mountain esque songs.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 23, 2018 3:22:14 GMT -5
I just hope it's full of Holy-Mountain-esque songs.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 23, 2018 4:04:58 GMT -5
I hope it's full of Holy-Mountain-esque songs. Please don't. |
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Post by bogaloo on Sept 23, 2018 5:20:13 GMT -5
I hope it's full of Holy-Mountain-esque songs. Hehehe... You little pirate, I like you! 😜 |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 23, 2018 12:15:18 GMT -5
I hope it's full of Holy-Mountain-esque songs. This means war. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 23, 2018 14:43:29 GMT -5
I hope it's full of Holy-Mountain-esque songs. Please don't. Please do |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 23, 2018 20:04:17 GMT -5
i hope to God he doesn't overthink it this time by 'not trying to sound like Noel Gallagher' please come in with some tunes that have been demoed. the write the tunes day of shit never really works- and lyrics tend to suffer for it too. Honestly, I think some of Noel's worst lyrics are on Chasing Yesterday. An album that was demoed. Conversely, I don't think Noel's lyrics on WBTM are that much different in quality from any of his previous albums. I think some of this is in people's heads and I wonder if Noel came out next time and lied by saying he demoed this time around if people could tell the difference. This isn't an attack on you, but I've read some things that just aren't remotely true about songwriting. There are no hard and fast rules for songwriters. You can find an equal amlunt of successes and failures for any style of songwriting. Also, demoing in the studio doesn't create lesser quality. Nor does it mean making rash decisions. I mean, they worked on this album for a few years. I doubt if there were any rash decisions made or songs remotely written within a week. As someone who's written in studio and at home, the actual craft of songwriting isn't changed, just the approach into the song. But it's the same work put in, the same standards, and same moments of inspirational brilliance (that is songs falling from the sky). What writing in the studio affords you is more time. It gives you the ability to craft more, experiment more, go down different routes with songs. If anything, you spend more time with a song while writing in a studio than out of it where you might finish a song, say it's done, and never think twice about it (which Noel is susceptible to doing). |
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Post by shannee on Sept 23, 2018 22:44:18 GMT -5
I don’t think any of the lyrics are poor quality but it’s the LACK of lyrics on the first half of the album that brings it down a bit imo. The song writing just doesn’t feel fully formed. I’m too lazy to quote anything in particular lol. But those songs just don’t have quality choruses. The second half, from Be careful on, are more traditional Noel fully realized lyrics.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 23, 2018 23:23:51 GMT -5
Noel can demo the shit out of material such as for SOTSOG, HC and DBTT. He even said they fell into traps with material they recorded too many times and could never settle on the right approach and were many times disappointed that proper studio sessions didn’t match his home studio demos. So to me I don’t think it means great material is on the way if he has proper demos ready.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 23, 2018 23:58:51 GMT -5
I don't think demoing makes a difference. Also, lyrics have never exactly been one of his strenghts. I mean, he's hardly Bob Dylan.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2018 5:23:19 GMT -5
Okay then, my wishes for NGHFB LP4:
- Stay with David Holmes, stay energetic. ONE Dead-in-the-Water type track is allowed IF AND ONLY IF it's as good and raw as that one. Everything else has to be modern, colourful, and bold.
- Collaborate! Noel has a bunch of contacts in the bizz, there's no reason why I shouldn't be hearing some Albarn or Justin Vernon vocals on a track, some guitar-work from Jonny Buckland, or even some Sons of Kemet rhythms.
- I'd like Noel to put more stock in his voice as a varied instrument. When he sings with a bit of venom like on Waiting for the Rapture or near the end of Idler's Dream, it works surprisingly well in all honesty, and I'd love to see him do things like that more - maybe sing a-capella for a bit or sample his voice into the instrumental itself. It would be really cool to have a Noel album that sounds like no-one else but Noel could have sang it.
- Use David's experience with ambience more. Holmes has made some gorgeous ambient tracks in the past and it'd be great to see Noel incorporate that on LP4. The peaceful instrumental in the Beautiful World bridge is wonderful for instance, but I'd love to see some proper ambient soundddscappeessss on the next album, maybe just as a gorgeous While-the-Song style intro, maybe as a standalone track with Charlotte reading some French poetry over it or something. Just use the man who made Hey Maggie to full effect.
- I'd like to see him use the jazz stylings of songs like The Right Stuff in something fast-paced. Everytime he uses jazz aesthetics, the track is a slow-burner; it'd be amazing if he matched them with a Holy-Mountain-esque sense of energy too. I was listening to Lana Del Ray's Born to Die song the other day, and I love how she used an almost hip-hop beat with little echoey vocal samples and deep bass to build a dramatic and quite retro ballad on top of. Perhaps Noel is now in a place where he can mix-and-match genre features with creativity like that too; with Holmes at the helm, I'm sure he could pull off a folk-punk bridge, a soul-sampling love-song, or even my dream of a jazzy disco banger.
- This last one addresses my one real problem with Who Built the Moon?, and that's that I'd like a more consistent tone throughout. To me, tracks like Fort Knox, Beautiful World, Careful What You Wish For, Wednesday, The Man Who Built the Moon, and Dead in the Water could all have been part of a dark, hypnotic album with an almost sarcastic edge. Holy Mountain, Keep on Reaching, She Taught Me How to Fly, and If Love is the Law, though, sound like they make up part of a riotous carnival of an album. I love all these songs, of course, I'd just like Noel to put more thought in the themes and sounds behind the album, rather than just how he creates the tracks themselves.
Some sort of quasi-album-concept would be cool: maybe give it a setting like Travis Scott did with the haunted themepark idea on ASTROWORLD, a story theme like Arcade Fire did with Orpheus and Eurydice on Reflektor, or even some sort of artsy historical backdrop like the French Revolution on Coldplay's Viva la Vida. That may be wishful thinking but my hope is that it would lead to an album that feels more like a place I can visit than a collection of songs with an ideology in their songwriting process.
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