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Post by LlAM on Sept 24, 2018 7:31:02 GMT -5
I hope he puts a studio version of Dead In The Water on his new album and I'd rather he put out an album of 7 good tracks rather than fill it up with useless instrumentals.
I remember Christams stockings as a kid, you thought it was your lucky year but it was full of fookin' raisins and satsumas.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 7:52:28 GMT -5
I hope he puts a studio version of Dead In The Water on his new album and I'd rather he put out an album of 7 good tracks rather than fill it up with useless instrumentals. I remember Christams stockings as a kid, you thought it was your lucky year but it was full of fookin' raisins and satsumas. No chance of a studio version of Dead In The Water... but I agree with the 7 good tracks take. |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 24, 2018 8:47:43 GMT -5
I hope he puts a studio version of Dead In The Water on his new album and I'd rather he put out an album of 7 good tracks rather than fill it up with useless instrumentals.
I remember Christams stockings as a kid, you thought it was your lucky year but it was full of fookin' raisins and satsumas. Mancs See Ghosts incoming? |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Sept 24, 2018 11:20:52 GMT -5
I don't think demoing makes a difference. Also, lyrics have never exactly been one of his strenghts. I mean, he's hardly Bob Dylan.Pardon my ignorance, but who's Bob Dylan? Thanks. |
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Post by mossy on Sept 24, 2018 12:14:50 GMT -5
Great! We can hear it all together in 2021!!!!!!! Guess that means the HFB anniversary edition with bonus AA material will be getting pushed back then. X |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 24, 2018 13:33:49 GMT -5
Does that mean freezing his actual songs for another 3 years, releasing stuff like Alone On The Rope as a b side and adding a giraffe that plays a hair dryer to his live band ?
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Post by Derrick on Sept 24, 2018 15:11:14 GMT -5
I don't think demoing makes a difference. Also, lyrics have never exactly been one of his strenghts. I mean, he's hardly Bob Dylan.Pardon my ignorance, but who's Bob Dylan? Thanks. A folk singer who had a moment of fame in the 60s; he caused a stir when he came onstage with an electric guitar, legions of his fans being wary of electricity for health & environmental concerns (today they ban Wi-Fi from their homes). He released a double album in the 60s which is generally considered his masterpiece, you should check it out: "Selfportrait" I think it's called. |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Sept 24, 2018 15:47:59 GMT -5
Pardon my ignorance, but who's Bob Dylan? Thanks. A folk singer who had a moment of fame in the 60s; he caused a stir when he came onstage with an electric guitar, legions of his fans being wary of electricity for health & environmental concerns (today they ban Wi-Fi from their homes). He released a double album in the 60s which is generally considered his masterpiece, you should check it out: "Selfportrait" I think it's called. Apparently, my uncle Robert, is in fact, Bob Dylan, wow. Merci. |
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Post by durk on Sept 24, 2018 18:25:01 GMT -5
well said by all
i just don't find myself going back to WBtM much aside from a few tracks
Whereas i played the shit out of Chasing Yesterday- and the first one too for that matter- for a long time.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Sept 24, 2018 22:33:31 GMT -5
A folk singer who had a moment of fame in the 60s; he caused a stir when he came onstage with an electric guitar, legions of his fans being wary of electricity for health & environmental concerns (today they ban Wi-Fi from their homes). He released a double album in the 60s which is generally considered his masterpiece, you should check it out: "Selfportrait" I think it's called. Apparently, my uncle Robert, is in fact, Bob Dylan, wow. Merci.   Mint |
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Post by uboasis on Sept 24, 2018 22:41:53 GMT -5
Okay then, my wishes for NGHFB LP4: - Stay with David Holmes, stay energetic. ONE Dead-in-the-Water type track is allowed IF AND ONLY IF it's as good and raw as that one. Everything else has to be modern, colourful, and bold. - Collaborate! Noel has a bunch of contacts in the bizz, there's no reason why I shouldn't be hearing some Albarn or Justin Vernon vocals on a track, some guitar-work from Jonny Buckland, or even some Sons of Kemet rhythms. - I'd like Noel to put more stock in his voice as a varied instrument. When he sings with a bit of venom like on Waiting for the Rapture or near the end of Idler's Dream, it works surprisingly well in all honesty, and I'd love to see him do things like that more - maybe sing a-capella for a bit or sample his voice into the instrumental itself. It would be really cool to have a Noel album that sounds like no-one else but Noel could have sang it. - Use David's experience with ambience more. Holmes has made some gorgeous ambient tracks in the past and it'd be great to see Noel incorporate that on LP4. The peaceful instrumental in the Beautiful World bridge is wonderful for instance, but I'd love to see some proper ambient soundddscappeessss on the next album, maybe just as a gorgeous While-the-Song style intro, maybe as a standalone track with Charlotte reading some French poetry over it or something. Just use the man who made Hey Maggie to full effect. - I'd like to see him use the jazz stylings of songs like The Right Stuff in something fast-paced. Everytime he uses jazz aesthetics, the track is a slow-burner; it'd be amazing if he matched them with a Holy-Mountain-esque sense of energy too. I was listening to Lana Del Ray's Born to Die song the other day, and I love how she used an almost hip-hop beat with little echoey vocal samples and deep bass to build a dramatic and quite retro ballad on top of. Perhaps Noel is now in a place where he can mix-and-match genre features with creativity like that too; with Holmes at the helm, I'm sure he could pull off a folk-punk bridge, a soul-sampling love-song, or even my dream of a jazzy disco banger. - This last one addresses my one real problem with Who Built the Moon?, and that's that I'd like a more consistent tone throughout. To me, tracks like Fort Knox, Beautiful World, Careful What You Wish For, Wednesday, The Man Who Built the Moon, and Dead in the Water could all have been part of a dark, hypnotic album with an almost sarcastic edge. Holy Mountain, Keep on Reaching, She Taught Me How to Fly, and If Love is the Law, though, sound like they make up part of a riotous carnival of an album. I love all these songs, of course, I'd just like Noel to put more thought in the themes and sounds behind the album, rather than just how he creates the tracks themselves. Some sort of quasi-album-concept would be cool: maybe give it a setting like Travis Scott did with the haunted themepark idea on ASTROWORLD, a story theme like Arcade Fire did with Orpheus and Eurydice on Reflektor, or even some sort of artsy historical backdrop like the French Revolution on Coldplay's Viva la Vida. That may be wishful thinking but my hope is that it would lead to an album that feels more like a place I can visit than a collection of songs with an ideology in their songwriting process. I literally agree with everything you said. I'd take it more extreme. I love Noel's voice but we also loved when he wrote songs that Lian sang. I would love an album that features several other people. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 24, 2018 23:19:56 GMT -5
I love Noel's voice. I wouldn't want an album with different singers. However, using his voice differently like TheEscapist said would be interesting.
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Post by funhouse on Sept 25, 2018 3:16:12 GMT -5
...maybe as a standalone track with Charlotte reading some French poetry over it or something. Agreed with much of what you wrote, but this...  |
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Post by bt95 on Sept 27, 2018 4:39:52 GMT -5
It doesn't look like Noel will be touring at all next year, which means the WBTM tour (not inc. the U2 gigs) has actually been about a year (and those early gigs were merely bits of promo).
Compare that to the CL tour, which lasted 18 months, so hopefully there'll be a quickish turnaround on this album and we'll see it in early 2020.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 27, 2018 4:40:49 GMT -5
I hope he puts a studio version of Dead In The Water on his new album and I'd rather he put out an album of 7 good tracks rather than fill it up with useless instrumentals. I remember Christams stockings as a kid, you thought it was your lucky year but it was full of fookin' raisins and satsumas. Why? It's fine as it is, stripped back and laid bare. It doesn't need any production, plus I'd rather hear something new than something I'd heard on the previous album. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 27, 2018 5:54:52 GMT -5
I hope he puts a studio version of Dead In The Water on his new album and I'd rather he put out an album of 7 good tracks rather than fill it up with useless instrumentals. I remember Christams stockings as a kid, you thought it was your lucky year but it was full of fookin' raisins and satsumas. Why? It's fine as it is, stripped back and laid bare. It doesn't need any production, plus I'd rather hear something new than something I'd heard on the previous album. Me too, it makes no sense and would be a waste of space (for me at least) |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 27, 2018 7:06:56 GMT -5
i hope to God he doesn't overthink it this time by 'not trying to sound like Noel Gallagher' please come in with some tunes that have been demoed. the write the tunes day of shit never really works- and lyrics tend to suffer for it too. He has said in another interview (or maybe this one) that he'd probably do a conventional album, as well, because he has such a back log of songs. |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 27, 2018 7:25:08 GMT -5
Okay then, my wishes for NGHFB LP4: - Stay with David Holmes, stay energetic. ONE Dead-in-the-Water type track is allowed IF AND ONLY IF it's as good and raw as that one. Everything else has to be modern, colourful, and bold. - Collaborate! Noel has a bunch of contacts in the bizz, there's no reason why I shouldn't be hearing some Albarn or Justin Vernon vocals on a track, some guitar-work from Jonny Buckland, or even some Sons of Kemet rhythms. - I'd like Noel to put more stock in his voice as a varied instrument. When he sings with a bit of venom like on Waiting for the Rapture or near the end of Idler's Dream, it works surprisingly well in all honesty, and I'd love to see him do things like that more - maybe sing a-capella for a bit or sample his voice into the instrumental itself. It would be really cool to have a Noel album that sounds like no-one else but Noel could have sang it. - Use David's experience with ambience more. Holmes has made some gorgeous ambient tracks in the past and it'd be great to see Noel incorporate that on LP4. The peaceful instrumental in the Beautiful World bridge is wonderful for instance, but I'd love to see some proper ambient soundddscappeessss on the next album, maybe just as a gorgeous While-the-Song style intro, maybe as a standalone track with Charlotte reading some French poetry over it or something. Just use the man who made Hey Maggie to full effect. - I'd like to see him use the jazz stylings of songs like The Right Stuff in something fast-paced. Everytime he uses jazz aesthetics, the track is a slow-burner; it'd be amazing if he matched them with a Holy-Mountain-esque sense of energy too. I was listening to Lana Del Ray's Born to Die song the other day, and I love how she used an almost hip-hop beat with little echoey vocal samples and deep bass to build a dramatic and quite retro ballad on top of. Perhaps Noel is now in a place where he can mix-and-match genre features with creativity like that too; with Holmes at the helm, I'm sure he could pull off a folk-punk bridge, a soul-sampling love-song, or even my dream of a jazzy disco banger. - This last one addresses my one real problem with Who Built the Moon?, and that's that I'd like a more consistent tone throughout. To me, tracks like Fort Knox, Beautiful World, Careful What You Wish For, Wednesday, The Man Who Built the Moon, and Dead in the Water could all have been part of a dark, hypnotic album with an almost sarcastic edge. Holy Mountain, Keep on Reaching, She Taught Me How to Fly, and If Love is the Law, though, sound like they make up part of a riotous carnival of an album. I love all these songs, of course, I'd just like Noel to put more thought in the themes and sounds behind the album, rather than just how he creates the tracks themselves. Some sort of quasi-album-concept would be cool: maybe give it a setting like Travis Scott did with the haunted themepark idea on ASTROWORLD, a story theme like Arcade Fire did with Orpheus and Eurydice on Reflektor, or even some sort of artsy historical backdrop like the French Revolution on Coldplay's Viva la Vida. That may be wishful thinking but my hope is that it would lead to an album that feels more like a place I can visit than a collection of songs with an ideology in their songwriting process. I literally agree with everything you said. I'd take it more extreme. I love Noel's voice but we also loved when he wrote songs that Lian sang. I would love an album that features several other people. And respectfully, I couldn't disagree more. I'm a huge fan of Noel Gallagher, the singer/songwriter who has always said writes his tunes on an acoustic guitar and then builds around that. I love all his Oasis stuff. Rocking, rolling, fast, slow, I love it all. I have enjoyed all three NGHFB albums, but WBTM least of the three. Noel Gallagher doing jazz, or trying to become a scat singer, is not appealing to me. Let other guys reinvent themselves, because they have to. I'm good with Noel Gallagher being Noel Gallagher. |
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Post by matt on Sept 27, 2018 8:10:13 GMT -5
I like Noel’s voice with vocal effects and distortions - really love his performance on Love Is The Law.
I just can’t be doing with songs like Lock All The Doors and other fad dad rock like it. For sure, they’re truly terrible songs but Liam would have provided extra vigour to them nonetheless and the simple fact is Noel ain’t a rock singer (that’s not advocating that it could be a good song though).
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Post by Flashbax on Sept 27, 2018 12:08:10 GMT -5
I think he should record another version of Dead in the Water, maybe bring in Dave Sardy and Jeremy Stacey for some drums.
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Post by crisppacket on Sept 27, 2018 12:24:16 GMT -5
I would like Noel Gallagher’s next album to contain songs that sound finished
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 27, 2018 12:37:55 GMT -5
Noel will always be able to write a Dead In The Water/If I Had A Gun/Dying of the Light song and I don't mind one per album. I think Dying of the Light was the best produced one and he did that all himself.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Sept 27, 2018 15:10:48 GMT -5
I would like Noel Gallagher’s next album to contain songs that sound finished Pardon my ignorance, but who's Noël Gallagher? Thanks. |
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Post by shannee on Sept 27, 2018 20:14:40 GMT -5
I literally agree with everything you said. I'd take it more extreme. I love Noel's voice but we also loved when he wrote songs that Lian sang. I would love an album that features several other people. And respectfully, I couldn't disagree more. I'm a huge fan of Noel Gallagher, the singer/songwriter who has always said writes his tunes on an acoustic guitar and then builds around that. I love all his Oasis stuff. Rocking, rolling, fast, slow, I love it all. I have enjoyed all three NGHFB albums, but WBTM least of the three. Noel Gallagher doing jazz, or trying to become a scat singer, is not appealing to me. Let other guys reinvent themselves, because they have to. I'm good with Noel Gallagher being Noel Gallagher. Agree x 1000. Last thing I want to hear is a hipster NG. This last album veered far enough in that direction tyvm |
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 27, 2018 21:57:56 GMT -5
For me Noel can indulge himself a bit more.
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